Sceptics beliefs ?

[Mr Gray]

Of course there is?!

Then let's hear it

[Wonderfulspam]

Then let's hear it

Joana hasn't been seen since 2004.

That's evidence she is dead.

[Brietta]

Oh dear, where to start?

She wasn't 'interrogated', she was questioned as a witness.  Regarding events that would not incriminate her.

As to why she was made an arguida the next day.  When one is asked questions that might lead to incrimination,  Portugal requires that one is made an arguido, as it confers rights and freedoms not open to a witness.  Notice the word 'might'.  7 arguidos on, and not one has been charged with anything.

If you have any information that Kate was aware of the Cipriano case, this would be a good time to reveal it.  I do not recall Kate making such a claim.  If you don't it is pure speculation.

Kate describes her interrogation in detail ... in the interrogation room ... including her lawyer's warning that she was being too forthcoming in some of her answers.
I take it that she was far better informed of her situation than you ever could expect to be.

[Mr Gray]

Joana hasn't been seen since 2004.

That's evidence she is dead.

I agree... But wheres the evidence against Leonora

[Wonderfulspam]

I agree... But wheres the evidence against Leonora

Her confession.  That's evidence enough for me.

[Mr Gray]

Her confession.  That's evidence enough for me.

So the only evidence you can come up with is a confession beaten out of her...

[Wonderfulspam]

So the only evidence you can come up with is a confession beaten out of her...

She confessed before the beating iirc.

I think she was only (deservedly) slapped about after attempting to retract.
 

[Mr Gray]

She confessed before the beating iirc.

I think she was only (deservedly) slapped about after attempting to retract.

She didn't confess before the beating.... Read the official court report

[The General]

She didn't confess before the beating.... Read the official court report

Looks like she changed her statement while in nick, pinning it on her brother - 15.09.2009

[Mr Gray]

Looks like she changed her statement while in nick, pinning it on her brother - 15.09.2009

She was sentenced to about 20 years having been beaten to a pulp in order to make her confess... Her only chance of parole is to show remorse... Fir a crime she didn't commit... Otherwise she serves the whole 20; years...

Again... Apart from her forced... Tortured confession... What evidence was there... Absolutely  none

[ShiningInLuz]

Kate describes her interrogation in detail ... in the interrogation room ... including her lawyer's warning that she was being too forthcoming in some of her answers.
I take it that she was far better informed of her situation than you ever could expect to be.

What 'interrogation" room?  Do you reckon Portimão has a room reserved for interrogations?  And as she was a witness at the time you referred to, why was she in this hypothetical interrogation room?

It not adding up, is it?

[Mr Gray]

What 'interrogation" room?  Do you reckon Portimão has a room reserved for interrogations?  And as she was a witness at the time you referred to, why was she in this hypothetical interrogation room?

It not adding up, is it?

It might not to you... But perhaps you are not very good at maths

[The General]

She was sentenced to about 20 years having been beaten to a pulp in order to make her confess... Her only chance of parole is to show remorse... Fir a crime she didn't commit... Otherwise she serves the whole 20; years...

Again... Apart from her forced... Tortured confession... What evidence was there... Absolutely  none

Trying to pin it on her brother is not showing remorse. She admitted she was dead and she participated.
No duress in a revised statement taken whilst inside.

[The General]

What 'interrogation" room?  Do you reckon Portimão has a room reserved for interrogations?  And as she was a witness at the time you referred to, why was she in this hypothetical interrogation room?

It not adding up, is it?

A little emotive labelling goes a long way. We call it an Interview Room.
(The Interrogation Dungeon is down stairs, 2nd on the left)

[Mr Gray]

Trying to pin it on her brother is not showing remorse. She admitted she was dead and she participated.
No duress in a revised statement taken whilst inside.

That's admitting the crime which you have to di to get parole


So what evidence was there apart from the confession by torture