Sceptics beliefs ?

[faithlilly]

Can you explain how the person who entered apartments to get into bed with children actually entered the apartments?

Through an open window?

[kizzy]

They would also have seen many people up and down the patio area.   The front door was more secluded.    It could be the person got in through the window and handed Madeleine out to another person,  or came in through the window and went out through the door,  or just opened the window once inside to hand Madeleine out through it,  or to get suspicion away from the fact they had a key,  or just as a quick getaway if caught in the room.

Or it could be there was no abductor at all imo - same as nothing to prove there was.

[The General]

People forget that pushing up the shutter doesn't allow access to the bedroom if the window is closed and secured.  The only way an intruder could get into that bedroom via the window was if the window was open to begin with.

How many means of potential access and egress does one family want to leave open, then abandon their kids?
Or is that the point of the obfuscation? Look at how many ways an abductorburglar could gain access.

[Venturi Swirl]

Well being logic 

She wasn't going to to do that anyway was she - make sure her little ones were covered up

If the door hadn't of slammed -  she would have gone straight back out

But hey your right a caring parent would have done that - but she wasn't going to was she.


As for asking what I would do VS - I'm not the one who left the little ones alone am i

Once again a complete absence of logic.  you are claiming the window had to have been opened to give Kate an excuse to go into the room. I am giving you other reasons she could have used as excuses for going into the room, which you are now using as ammunition to attack Kate McCann for being an uncaring parent claiming she wouldn’t have cared if her kids were covered up or not.  Can you not see how loopy this is?

[Venturi Swirl]

People forget that pushing up the shutter doesn't allow access to the bedroom if the window is closed and secured.  The only way an intruder could get into that bedroom via the window was if the window was open to begin with.

Open or unlocked?

[Lace]

Through an open window?

Well did the police check to see if there were any fingerprints on the window?

[faithlilly]

Well did the police check to see if there were any fingerprints on the window?

I don’t know, and I’d hazard a guess neither do you, but it’s not important. What is important is that an open window is a possible means of entry.

[kizzy]

Once again a complete absence of logic.  you are claiming the window had to have been opened to give Kate an excuse to go into the room. I am giving you other reasons she could have used as excuses for going into the room, which you are now using as ammunition to attack Kate McCann for being an uncaring parent claiming she wouldn’t have cared if her kids were covered up or not.  Can you not see how loopy this is?

Ok then maybe she never thought of that - because it's something she wouldn't have done anyway

[Brietta]

Open or unlocked?

If an intruder wishes to gain entry he or she will be perfectly capable of doing so ... as in the case of the many burglaries which took place in the Algarve at the time. https://youtu.be/oKx0ND1jBwA

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The parents concluded that it had been the same man who, the previous day, had tampered with the mechanism of the glass sliding doors. Once that was done, getting into the villa had been easy.
Summers & Swan

Recounting in their book on Madeleine about an intruder who gained access to a villa and climbed into bed with a young girl.

A practice Kate wrote about in her book which was roundly derided by sceptics at the time but evidence of which had to be accepted when DCI Redwood highlighted it on Crimewatch.

[ShiningInLuz]

If an intruder wishes to gain entry he or she will be perfectly capable of doing so ... as in the case of the many burglaries which took place in the Algarve at the time. https://youtu.be/oKx0ND1jBwA

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The parents concluded that it had been the same man who, the previous day, had tampered with the mechanism of the glass sliding doors. Once that was done, getting into the villa had been easy.
Summers & Swan

Recounting in their book on Madeleine about an intruder who gained access to a villa and climbed into bed with a young girl.

A practice Kate wrote about in her book which was roundly derided by sceptics at the time but evidence of which had to be accepted when DCI Redwood highlighted it on Crimewatch.

Which villa are S&S referring to?

Presumably not 5A as that was a fairly bijou apartment, plus K&G admit to leaving the patio doors unlocked for ease of entry.

[Brietta]

Which villa are S&S referring to?

Presumably not 5A as that was a fairly bijou apartment, plus K&G admit to leaving the patio doors unlocked for ease of entry.

A more detailed account can be read in the Summers & Swan book.

The point I was making in my post was that at the time of Madeleine's disappearance home invasions ... some of which involved assaults on children ... were rife in the Algarve region.
There was little publicity or recognition  https://youtu.be/oKx0ND1jBwA which raises the question of whether the tourist industry took precedence over public information and safety.

[Robittybob1]

Open or unlocked?

Unlocked would be enough.

[G-Unit]

Why does thr “immediately “ factor matter in this scenario?  After checking the apartment she would have been able to conclude (remember in this scenario she s alleging an abduction) that Madeleine must have been taken.  It’s really tiresome to have to keep pointing out the obvious.

It seems to matter to KaIte McCann, not me. She likes to repeat it.

[Venturi Swirl]

It seems to matter to KaIte McCann, not me. She likes to repeat it.

So what has that got to do with faking an abduction or otherwise?

[Wonderfulspam]

Can you explain how the person who entered apartments to get into bed with children actually entered the apartments?

Sure. Can you show me the various case files, witness statements & news reports from each of these alleged incidents?
Then I can go from there.