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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #660 on: February 08, 2019, 07:53:33 AM »
The police can only investigate crimes if they know about them. It was four years before these crimes were mentioned by anyone. Apparently the British Consul thought about them right away and wondered if there was a connection but wasn't concerned enough to speak to the PJ avout it.
Cite?  Did none of the crimes get reported to the police at the time? 
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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #661 on: February 08, 2019, 08:26:13 AM »
Cite?  Did none of the crimes get reported to the police at the time?

All I know is that according to 'madeleine'one woman wrote a letter of complaint to the GNR. There's no mention of the PJ being involved.
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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #662 on: February 08, 2019, 11:16:50 AM »
The police can only investigate crimes if they know about them. It was four years before these crimes were mentioned by anyone. Apparently the British Consul thought about them right away and wondered if there was a connection but wasn't concerned enough to speak to the PJ avout it.

One wonders when and why a DNA sample was taken from the Judicial Police suspect in these assaults and was able to rule him out of involvement years down the line and after his death?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-investigation-prime-suspect-3497005
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #663 on: February 08, 2019, 11:19:58 AM »
The police can only investigate crimes if they know about them. It was four years before these crimes were mentioned by anyone. Apparently the British Consul thought about them right away and wondered if there was a connection but wasn't concerned enough to speak to the PJ avout it.

Even the CdaM seems to acknowledge that they were reported to the GNR, which then passed them on to the PJ...
https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/ingleses-investigam-7-abusos-sexuais-antes-de-maddie-desaparecer

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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #664 on: February 08, 2019, 11:53:54 AM »
One wonders when and why a DNA sample was taken from the Judicial Police suspect in these assaults and was able to rule him out of involvement years down the line and after his death?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-investigation-prime-suspect-3497005

Luckily they did, OG couldn't get their hands on a convenient patsy, all opinion of course.

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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #665 on: February 08, 2019, 12:18:57 PM »
One wonders when and why a DNA sample was taken from the Judicial Police suspect in these assaults and was able to rule him out of involvement years down the line and after his death?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-investigation-prime-suspect-3497005

One wonders why the attacks continued after this man's death too.
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« Reply #666 on: February 08, 2019, 12:36:28 PM »
Even the CdaM seems to acknowledge that they were reported to the GNR, which then passed them on to the PJ...
https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/ingleses-investigam-7-abusos-sexuais-antes-de-maddie-desaparecer

Amazing as it may seem, newspaper stories are not always correct.
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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #667 on: February 08, 2019, 01:19:20 PM »
Amazing as it may seem, newspaper stories are not always correct.

That one dates from 2017, not 2007.

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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #668 on: February 08, 2019, 02:28:20 PM »
That one dates from 2017, not 2007.

Is that relevant?
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« Reply #669 on: February 08, 2019, 05:46:39 PM »
All I know is that according to 'madeleine'one woman wrote a letter of complaint to the GNR. There's no mention of the PJ being involved.
What was the nature of the complaint?  BTW, when did you become exempt from the cite rules of this forum?  That’s twice you’ve ignored my requests.
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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #670 on: February 08, 2019, 06:13:20 PM »
What was the nature of the complaint?  BTW, when did you become exempt from the cite rules of this forum?  That’s twice you’ve ignored my requests.
Here you are; she knew all the technical terms. didn't she? 'Building up profiles' and all that.....

a letter of complaint from one mother to the GNR regarding the sexual abuse of her daughter and the lack of proper attention paid to it by the authorities. The final line in particular has haunted me ever
since:

It is difficult to see with this lack of investigation or interest how a profile of this man can be built up. It did not appear to us that there was any great incentive or determination to find the offender and bring him to justice . . .
Furthermore, it could all have been so much worse . . . indeed this man could go on to do much worse to another child if he’s not stopped now.

[madeleine]

What else do you want a cite for? If it's 'four years before the crimes were mentioned' I think they were first mentioned in 'madeleine' in 2011, but feel free to correct me. 
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« Reply #671 on: February 08, 2019, 06:24:36 PM »
Here you are; she knew all the technical terms. didn't she? 'Building up profiles' and all that.....

a letter of complaint from one mother to the GNR regarding the sexual abuse of her daughter and the lack of proper attention paid to it by the authorities. The final line in particular has haunted me ever
since:

It is difficult to see with this lack of investigation or interest how a profile of this man can be built up. It did not appear to us that there was any great incentive or determination to find the offender and bring him to justice . . .
Furthermore, it could all have been so much worse . . . indeed this man could go on to do much worse to another child if he’s not stopped now.

[madeleine]

What else do you want a cite for? If it's 'four years before the crimes were mentioned' I think they were first mentioned in 'madeleine' in 2011, but feel free to correct me.
see my replies #653 and #659, two requests for cites, both ignored.
Also, since when has “building a profile” been a technical term, and so what if it is?  What is the significance?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #672 on: February 08, 2019, 07:41:31 PM »
see my replies #653 and #659, two requests for cites, both ignored.
Also, since when has “building a profile” been a technical term, and so what if it is?  What is the significance?

#653 I attempted to illustrate what the newspapers might have said if they had been told that the British Consul knew about these incusions and said nothing. It wasn't a quote.

#659 Cite for what?
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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #673 on: February 08, 2019, 08:46:01 PM »
#653 I attempted to illustrate what the newspapers might have said if they had been told that the British Consul knew about these incusions and said nothing. It wasn't a quote.

#659 Cite for what?
The British Consul not being concerned enough about the sex attacks to speak to the police about them.
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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #674 on: February 08, 2019, 08:51:57 PM »
The British Consul not being concerned enough about the sex attacks to speak to the police about them.

I would have expected it to be in the files if he had made a statement.
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