Are you a supporter, a sceptic or a fence sitter?

[Mr Gray]

Yes, its all or nothing with a believer.

I think my description is better

[Carana]

In reality a fence sitter does not believe the McCanns and is therefore a sceptic

Hmmm. I have no problem with people who have genuinely become interested in the case after the initial media blitz.

I do, however, have a problem with numerous 10-post sock wonders who suddenly appear on certain forums. *roll eyes*

[stephen25000]

Hmmm. I have no problem with people who have genuinely become interested in the case after the initial media blitz.

I do, however, have a problem with numerous 10-post sock wonders who suddenly appear on certain forums. *roll eyes*

I agree with you again Carana.

 

[Mr Gray]

Hmmm. I have no problem with people who have genuinely become interested in the case after the initial media blitz.

I do, however, have a problem with numerous 10-post sock wonders who suddenly appear on certain forums. *roll eyes*

I think we know who you mean

[LagosBen]

Hmmm. I have no problem with people who have genuinely become interested in the case after the initial media blitz.

I do, however, have a problem with numerous 10-post sock wonders who suddenly appear on certain forums. *roll eyes*

I would guess that most with definite opinions have been around for a long time, just posting under different monikers around the net.

[John]

I don't think we have ever asked this question on the forum previously so it is being put out to all members.  Please answer honestly, your vote is completely anonymous and confidential.

Feel free to add comments below if you want.

Admin

This raises an interesting question for me.  The Oxford Dictionary give a definition of a sceptic as a person inclined to question or doubt accepted opinions.  But what is accepted opinion in the Madeleine case because from what I can see the country is split right down the middle?

[mercury]

This raises an interesting question for me.  The Oxford Dictionary give a definition of a sceptic as a person inclined to question or doubt accepted opinions.  But what is accepted opinion in the Madeleine case because from what I can see the country is split right down the middle?

I think it refers more to the "official" positions, ie from "team mccann" the uk media (mainly) and the police to an extent, plus some other entities, not to mention the whole phenomenon of  "everyone who doesnt believe the story is a villain of some sort or another"

[ferryman]

I would say it is an objective statement that there is no evidence pointing to the guilt of the McCanns.

Some opinion flies in the face of objectivity.

Emergence of objective facts may swing the pendulum in the direction of subjective opinion.

But it is pure speculation that that may happen.

As things stand (at least with the state of knowledge in the public domain) it is clear that there are no sensible grounds for suspecting the McCanns ....

[Mr Gray]

I would say it is an objective statement that there is no evidence pointing to the guilt of the McCanns.

Some opinion flies in the face of objectivity.

Emergence of objective facts may swing the pendulum in the direction of subjective opinion.

But it is pure speculation that that may happen.

As things stand (at least with the state of knowledge in the public domain) it is clear that there are no sensible grounds for suspecting the McCanns ....

and yet only 1/3 of this forum accept that...interesting

[Brietta]

and yet only 1/3 of this forum accept that...interesting

I firmly believe in the right of the presumption of innocence which is enshrined in law.  That makes me a supporter which will only change if evidence is found leading to due process and a fair trial proves guilt.



Right to a fair trial: New rules to guarantee presumption of innocence
Brussels, 12 February 2016
European Commission - Press release
Today, Ministers from the EU Member States have adopted new rules that will guarantee the presumption of innocence of anyone accused or suspected of a crime by the police or justice authorities.

**Snip
The new rules are based on EU fundamental rights laid down in the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights and the European Convention of Human Rights. The rights set in the Directive will be part of EU law and will be enforced as such by the Member States.
europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-291_en.pdf

[Miss Taken Identity]

This raises an interesting question for me.  The Oxford Dictionary give a definition of a sceptic as a person inclined to question or doubt accepted opinions.  But what is accepted opinion in the Madeleine case because from what I can see the country is split right down the middle?

yes,  it isn't that straight forward really. Who is accepting of these opinions? and since they are only opinions; do they count?

I mean some people accept they do not know what happened, but refuse to accept the McCanns various versions of accounts, their story just does not add up.  So perhaps the poll should be more defined?

1. do you belive the parents and tapas account of what happened to Madeleine
yes
no

simples!

[Carana]

yes,  it isn't that straight forward really. Who is accepting of these opinions? and since they are only opinions; do they count?

I mean some people accept they do not know what happened, but refuse to accept the McCanns various versions of accounts, their story just does not add up.  So perhaps the poll should be more defined?

1. do you belive the parents and tapas account of what happened to Madeleine
yes
no

simples!

I'm not sure that I understand.

Could you explain what exactly you disagree with and substantiate your points with reliable sources?

[Miss Taken Identity]

I'm not sure that I understand.

Could you explain what exactly you disagree with and substantiate your points with reliable sources?

No, This is about opinions and what people believe or do not believe regarding the parents versions of account. it really is simples. Do you believe  what they said or do you not.

 

[Carana]

No, This is about opinions and what people believe or do not believe regarding the parents versions of account. it really is simples. Do you believe  what they said or do you not.

On this forum, people are expected to present factual elements, to the best of their understanding, to substantiate views.

What exactly are you disputing?

[Carana]

No, This is about opinions and what people believe or do not believe regarding the parents versions of account. it really is simples. Do you believe  what they said or do you not.

What is "this"?