Alleged Miscarriages of Justice > Luke Mitchell and the murder of his teenage girfriend Jodi Jones on 30 June 2003.
Corinne Mitchell refers to son Luke as normal?
Nicholas:
--- Quote from: John on June 27, 2012, 02:01:11 PM ---This post by Corinne Mitchell on the WAP forum is interesting and reveals that she still hasn't come to terms that her then 14-year-old child wasn't exactly 'normal'.
Link
Mitchell was far from normal. He had a warped predisposition towards knives and had actually assaulted one school girl with them just days before he killed Jodi Jones. He was reprimanded by Matthew Muraska, who helped run the local Army Cadet Force The Army Cadet Force (ACF). Asked about an incident with Mitchell, Mr Muraska said it had been in the summer of 2002 that he caught him with a knife.
"They were on parade at the end of the evening and I saw one cadet pass something to Luke. I asked Luke, 'What is that?' He removed the knife from his pocket and handed it to me.
"I opened the knife. It was about six or seven inches long, a lock- type knife with a pointed blade," said Mr Muraska. "I held it up so all the cadets could see. I said that I never, ever wanted to see a knife like that in the Army Cadet Force...there was no place for a knife like that...a knife such as that was made for one purpose and one purpose only.
"A young cadet said, 'Killing' and I said, 'Yes, exactly.' I said I doubted the legality of such a knife and that carrying such a knife was probably totally illegal."
Mr Muraska said he had to give back the knife to Mitchell. In the past, knives would be confiscated and destroyed, but a policeman had pointed out that such action was theft.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-13056511.html
A FRIEND of Mitchell's told the court he said he could imagine himself getting 'stoned' and killing someone.
Michelle Tierney, 17, a sixth year pupil at St David's High School in Dalkeith, says she went to an area known as 'the ampi' where she met Mitchell and a group of pals.
Some people left, leaving her with Mitchell and a friend.
She tells the court that some of the group had been smoking cannabis before she arrived.
Asked by the advocate depute whether something came up in conversation with Mitchell, she replies: 'He said that he could just imagine himself going out and getting stoned and going out and killing somebody and how funny it would be.'
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+JODI+JONES+TRIAL:+I+think+I%27m+actually+in+love+with+Luke..+well...-a0125381355
Mitchell was also a drug dealer. He not only smoked cannabis in ever increasing quantities but he purchased and resold the drug in special plastic bags kept in his bedroom for that specific purpose. He also had weighing scales in his bedroom which were used to weigh the drugs.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/aberdeen/quick-tempered-mother-who-always-stood-by-her-son-1.65142
Normal behaviour for a 14-year-old boy??
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"Why did Luke Mitchell Kill? His mother holds a clue. https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12402619.Why_did_Luke_Mitchell_kill__His_mother_holds_a_clue/
Nicholas:
--- Quote from: John on June 27, 2012, 02:01:11 PM ---This post by Corinne Mitchell on the WAP forum is interesting and reveals that she still hasn't come to terms that her then 14-year-old child wasn't exactly 'normal'.
Link
Mitchell was far from normal. He had a warped predisposition towards knives and had actually assaulted one school girl with them just days before he killed Jodi Jones. He was reprimanded by Matthew Muraska, who helped run the local Army Cadet Force The Army Cadet Force (ACF). Asked about an incident with Mitchell, Mr Muraska said it had been in the summer of 2002 that he caught him with a knife.
"They were on parade at the end of the evening and I saw one cadet pass something to Luke. I asked Luke, 'What is that?' He removed the knife from his pocket and handed it to me.
"I opened the knife. It was about six or seven inches long, a lock- type knife with a pointed blade," said Mr Muraska. "I held it up so all the cadets could see. I said that I never, ever wanted to see a knife like that in the Army Cadet Force...there was no place for a knife like that...a knife such as that was made for one purpose and one purpose only.
"A young cadet said, 'Killing' and I said, 'Yes, exactly.' I said I doubted the legality of such a knife and that carrying such a knife was probably totally illegal."
Mr Muraska said he had to give back the knife to Mitchell. In the past, knives would be confiscated and destroyed, but a policeman had pointed out that such action was theft.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-13056511.html
A FRIEND of Mitchell's told the court he said he could imagine himself getting 'stoned' and killing someone.
Michelle Tierney, 17, a sixth year pupil at St David's High School in Dalkeith, says she went to an area known as 'the ampi' where she met Mitchell and a group of pals.
Some people left, leaving her with Mitchell and a friend.
She tells the court that some of the group had been smoking cannabis before she arrived.
Asked by the advocate depute whether something came up in conversation with Mitchell, she replies: 'He said that he could just imagine himself going out and getting stoned and going out and killing somebody and how funny it would be.'
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+JODI+JONES+TRIAL:+I+think+I%27m+actually+in+love+with+Luke..+well...-a0125381355
Mitchell was also a drug dealer. He not only smoked cannabis in ever increasing quantities but he purchased and resold the drug in special plastic bags kept in his bedroom for that specific purpose. He also had weighing scales in his bedroom which were used to weigh the drugs.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/aberdeen/quick-tempered-mother-who-always-stood-by-her-son-1.65142
Normal behaviour for a 14-year-old boy??
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"Piquerism is sometimes performed post-mortem. It generally refers to the penetration of human flesh, although it is sometimes practiced against animals. The piquer’s range of activities for sating his or her needs can be a purposeful single prick with a pin or knife, multiple stab wounds to an eroticized area, or elaborate cutting, stabbing, biting and mutilation of a victim. Piquerism becomes part of the repertoire of many sadists, depending on their progress along the ‘sadistic learning curve’. Often the sexual mechanisms inherent in piquerism are ignored during the assessment of sexually sadistic crimes. The prevalence rate of piquerism is unknown”.
Many authors note the link between piquerism and sexual sadism. In an online article on sexual sadism. Dr Stephen Hucker reviewed the characteristics and predominate features of what he described as “major sexual sadism”.
Dr. Hucker noted that this type of sexual sadism was typically non-consensual and usually culminates in major injury or death. He also noted the types of behaviour that accompanied major sexual sadism as including: (i) severe beatings, (ii) torture, (iii) burning and cutting, (iv) stabbing in the breast or buttocks (piquerism), (v) rape, (vi), murder, (vii) vampirism, and (viii) necrophilia. This is also confirmed by Dr. Anil Aggrawal in his 2011 book Necrophilia: Forensic and Medico-legal Aspects, where he examines lust murders:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/in-excess/201501/life-knife-edge
Nicholas:
--- Quote from: John on June 27, 2012, 02:01:11 PM ---This post by Corinne Mitchell on the WAP forum is interesting and reveals that she still hasn't come to terms that her then 14-year-old child wasn't exactly 'normal'.
Link
Mitchell was far from normal. He had a warped predisposition towards knives and had actually assaulted one school girl with them just days before he killed Jodi Jones. He was reprimanded by Matthew Muraska, who helped run the local Army Cadet Force The Army Cadet Force (ACF). Asked about an incident with Mitchell, Mr Muraska said it had been in the summer of 2002 that he caught him with a knife.
"They were on parade at the end of the evening and I saw one cadet pass something to Luke. I asked Luke, 'What is that?' He removed the knife from his pocket and handed it to me.
"I opened the knife. It was about six or seven inches long, a lock- type knife with a pointed blade," said Mr Muraska. "I held it up so all the cadets could see. I said that I never, ever wanted to see a knife like that in the Army Cadet Force...there was no place for a knife like that...a knife such as that was made for one purpose and one purpose only.
"A young cadet said, 'Killing' and I said, 'Yes, exactly.' I said I doubted the legality of such a knife and that carrying such a knife was probably totally illegal."
Mr Muraska said he had to give back the knife to Mitchell. In the past, knives would be confiscated and destroyed, but a policeman had pointed out that such action was theft.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-13056511.html
A FRIEND of Mitchell's told the court he said he could imagine himself getting 'stoned' and killing someone.
Michelle Tierney, 17, a sixth year pupil at St David's High School in Dalkeith, says she went to an area known as 'the ampi' where she met Mitchell and a group of pals.
Some people left, leaving her with Mitchell and a friend.
She tells the court that some of the group had been smoking cannabis before she arrived.
Asked by the advocate depute whether something came up in conversation with Mitchell, she replies: 'He said that he could just imagine himself going out and getting stoned and going out and killing somebody and how funny it would be.'
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+JODI+JONES+TRIAL:+I+think+I%27m+actually+in+love+with+Luke..+well...-a0125381355
Mitchell was also a drug dealer. He not only smoked cannabis in ever increasing quantities but he purchased and resold the drug in special plastic bags kept in his bedroom for that specific purpose. He also had weighing scales in his bedroom which were used to weigh the drugs.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/aberdeen/quick-tempered-mother-who-always-stood-by-her-son-1.65142
Normal behaviour for a 14-year-old boy??
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I'd like to hear from Luke Mitchell, or one his handful of supporters, when he started his "20 bottle" urine collection and why etc?
Sandra Lean states,
"Another complete red herring was the finding of bottles of urine found in Luke's bedroom.
"The perfectly innocent explanation - that the trauma of events had triggered a form of Obsessive Compulsive Diaorder (OCD), compelling him to "hold on" to literally everything, never made it to the public domain.
I disagree.
If the motivation for the murder of [Name removed] was Erotophonophilia, then any possible paraphilia is relevant. Piquerism is a paraphilia as well as a form of sadism. The same could be said of Luke Mitchell's urne collection ie; another paraphilia
Guiltyascharged:
didnt luke threaten another girl with a knife? not what your average normal teenager would do
Nicholas:
--- Quote from: Nicholas on September 19, 2018, 04:44:29 PM ---I'd like to hear from Luke Mitchell, or one his handful of supporters, when he started his "20 bottle" urine collection and why etc?
Sandra Lean states,
"Another complete red herring was the finding of bottles of urine found in Luke's bedroom.
"The perfectly innocent explanation - that the trauma of events had triggered a form of Obsessive Compulsive Diaorder (OCD), compelling him to "hold on" to literally everything, never made it to the public domain.
I disagree.
If the motivation for the murder of [Name removed] was Erotophonophilia, then any possible paraphilia is relevant. Piquerism is a paraphilia as well as a form of sadism. The same could be said of Luke Mitchell's urne collection ie; another paraphilia
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“A high-profile trial heard bottles of urine were found in Mitchell's bedroom when it was searched in July 2003 and taken away by the police.
Donald Findlay QC, representing Mitchell, earlier argued the evidence was "wholly irrelevant" and provided no "link, key or motive" to the crime.
John Beckett QC, representing the Crown, told Lords Hamilton, Osborne and Kingarth: "His explanation was that because he slept on top of a bunk bed it was more convenient to do that than to do anything else.
"It was to show that explanation was untrue. The new ones (bottles) came at a time when his position was that he was sleeping in the living room next to his mother, or something like that."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7247137.stm
If this is correct https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/police-stage-reconstruction-itn-ext-police-car-outside-news-footage/682859242?adppopup=true&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp Luke Mitchell’s house was searched 7 days after the murder and some 20 bottles of urine were found in his bedroom - that’s some collection in just a few days. Especially as has been pointed out, even by Corrine Mitchell, he was sleeping downstairs on the sofa therefore his alleged explanation as to why he urinated in bottles was indeed untrue.
“the trauma of events had triggered a form of Obsessive Compulsive Diaorder (OCD), compelling him to "hold on" to literally everything, never made it to the public domain.
Forensic psychologist Ian Stephens said at the time “whoever did this would be displaying signs of stress.
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/family-video-released-itn-ext-i-c-detective-inspector-tom-news-footage/682862314?adppopup=true&uiloc=thumbnail_more_search_results_adp
On the other hand Luke Mitchell was keen to get back to school (2 months after the murder) and went on to pass his exams - seemingly unaffected by any trauma
Imo Luke Mitchell most probably urinated in bottles before the murder
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