Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann

[Eleanor]

Please reinstate Tannerman and stop this nonsense.

maybe this should be on another thread ...oops

I'll vote for that.  Bring back Tannerman.

[jassi]

On child safety isues? And what costs?  Phone call or email? In any case, methinks the nannies didnt do it!

 

Nah. Too busy working or having a good time.

[Redblossom]

Nah. Too busy working or having a good time.

Precisely!

Sheesh

 


Oh well, hogging the board, laters

[Sherlock Holmes]

See my post 6 on  this thread


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3287.msg124946#msg124946

I see your post, red, but I have also read Heriberto's attachments containing theses regarding how statistics are compiled. Reading these, one sees clearly that crimes are often noted as being of one type, when in reality an act of crime often involves different types of crimes clumped together. Previously, statistics have failed to take these realities into account (not going into all the details here) and thus we have a false picture about what type of person is supposed to commit what type of crime.

[icabodcrane]

I see your post, red, but I have also read Heriberto's attachments containing theses regarding how statistics are compiled. Reading these, one sees clearly that crimes are often noted as being of one type, when in reality an act of crime often involves different types of crimes clumped together. Previously, statistics have failed to take these realities into account (not going into all the details here) and thus we have a false picture about what type of person is supposed to commit what type of crime.

I don't understand this post Sherlock

I havn't read Heriberto Janosch's   'attachments'  (  ?  )  containing theses on statistics,  but Red's question seems quite straighforward to me 

How many burglars have murdered  children ?

There is an exact   answer to that  straight forward question   ( regardless of   'theses'  on statistics  )

What do you guess it might be  ?    ...  ball park figure

 (  I'm going for none  ) 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I don't understand this post Sherlock

I havn't read Heriberto Janosch's   'attachments'  (  ?  )  containing theses on statistics,  but Red's question seems quite straighforward to me 

How many burglars have murdered  children ?

There is an exact   answer to that  straight forward question   ( regardless of   'theses'  on statistics  )

What do you guess it might be  ?    ...  ball park figure

 (  I'm going for none  )

Heriberto linked academic studies about prisoners who had been committed for  certain offenses, who also had personal histories of committing different types of crimes. Sometimes different types of crimes were committed by the same person at a given crime scene e.g. theft and rape. This apparently is quite common.

The reports look at some of the problems involved in recording these events in statistical terms, and how skewed and inadequate statistical information has given us false impressions with regard to the multifaceted criminal natures of many offenders.

In answer to the question how many burglars have murdered children, it is therefore hard to say. Needless to say in America there have been several cases of murder plus burglary.

I went into the idea a bit here:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3225.msg122050#msg122050

P.S  I know from a few South African friends that burglary as far as they are concerned normally means murder. Burglars enter the house, steal, then shoot people in their beds before leaving the property.

That is not how it happens in Britain. But it happens.

[Sherlock Holmes]

From the Express, January 31st:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/457122/Scotland-Yard-to-examine-Madeleine-McCann-suspects-bank-accounts

regarding SY's request for the bank accounts of the three suspects to be examined.

The first full paragraph reads:

The move raises fears Madeleine may have been snatched to order and sold by her kidnapper. It is alleged the suspects worked at the Ocean Club complex in the Algarve holiday resort of Praia da Luz where Madeleine’s family were staying. The three are thought to be behind a string of burglaries at the holiday complex before Madeleine went missing.

Being snatched to order seems to contradict the theory of a 'burglary gone wrong'. The first is extremely carefully planned and executed and the second is accidental.

However it states that ' The three are thought to be behind a string of burglaries at the holiday complex before Madeleine went missing.'

That doesn't mean that 5A was the scene of a burglary gone wrong; only that people involved in previous break -ins at different properties are suspected of being implicated in somehow in Madeleine's disappearance.
 

[colombosstogey]

Cant see any of the twenty something female nannies beng involved myself!

Agree BUT nannies can be pedophiles too, or work in pedophile gangs....its a known fact sadly. I found quite a few females arrested for pedophilia, especially on young children and young teenagers. EEK, the world has gone mad.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5488501/Female-nursery-worker-arrested-over-paedophile-network-investigation.html

[colombosstogey]

what a load of the usual twaddle ...several years ago every man in an English town was asked to voluntarily give a dna sample to help solve a brutal murder...no one complained...except the murderer who was caught...stop moaning

Yes a friend of mine knew the guy who was totally not a horrible person. It was a young guy who went to a popular night club, met a girl, they were drunk, and went off to the local quarry for a bit of a cuddle, and things went wrong, she screamed, and he tried to calm her down and she suffocated. He ran in panic.

I KNOW the area well. The night club was a good walk away from the quarry and flipping DARK too, IF the girl followed him, which is what was said, she went willingly which showed her judgement was impaired sadly. My friend, who knows the lad believed his version of events. It was a terribly sad case, that poor girl but these things do happen, like the Joanna Yates case seems Bristol is not a good place to be there have been several cases similar.

The DNA was done BUT he was not caught, at the time, it was about a year later I think before he was finally tracked down in South Africa and then supplied a DNA which was a CLOSE match, I dont believe it was a 99.9 match.

I think it was a brilliant idea to do DNA testing. However, pointless in the case of the McCanns because there is no proof of anything.

[Heriberto Janosch]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-missing-detectives-probe-3099910#.Uuyqfz15Ogc

Madeleine McCann detectives probe phone calls made by workers at Portuguese holiday complex on night she disappeared

Three workers at the holiday complex where Madeleine McCann was last seen made an abnormally high number of calls “outside the resort” on the night she went missing.

A police source said: “Unlike their colleagues who called each other as the search proceeded, the three made domestic calls to areas of no geographic interest to the search.”

Scotland Yard detectives have asked for them to be interrogated, their bank accounts probed and their homes searched.

Police regard the three as prime suspects and may be working on a theory that the three-year-old was taken after disturbing burglars in her family’s Algarve apartment while parents Kate and Gerry were at a tapas restaurant on the site.

They would have known the layout of Praia da Luz Ocean Club and would have been required to make statements after Madeleine disappeared in May 2007.

It is thought a team of detectives led by Oporto-based missing persons specialist Helena Monteiro has found shortcomings in the original inquiry. Her squad are believed to want to speak to a number of people who have not been questioned before.

Ms Monteiro is working independently from a second branch of Portuguese detectives in Faro who are helping Scotland Yard with their inquiries. The Met Police refused to comment.

[stephen25000]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-missing-detectives-probe-3099910#.Uuyqfz15Ogc

Madeleine McCann detectives probe phone calls made by workers at Portuguese holiday complex on night she disappeared

Three workers at the holiday complex where Madeleine McCann was last seen made an abnormally high number of calls “outside the resort” on the night she went missing.

A police source said: “Unlike their colleagues who called each other as the search proceeded, the three made domestic calls to areas of no geographic interest to the search.”

Scotland Yard detectives have asked for them to be interrogated, their bank accounts probed and their homes searched.

Police regard the three as prime suspects and may be working on a theory that the three-year-old was taken after disturbing burglars in her family’s Algarve apartment while parents Kate and Gerry were at a tapas restaurant on the site.

They would have known the layout of Praia da Luz Ocean Club and would have been required to make statements after Madeleine disappeared in May 2007.

It is thought a team of detectives led by Oporto-based missing persons specialist Helena Monteiro has found shortcomings in the original inquiry. Her squad are believed to want to speak to a number of people who have not been questioned before.

Ms Monteiro is working independently from a second branch of Portuguese detectives in Faro who are helping Scotland Yard with their inquiries. The Met Police refused to comment.

Hot air.

[Kazcutt]

Madeleine McCann detectives probe phone calls made by workers at Portuguese holiday complex on night she disappeared
31 January 2014 09:40 PM By David Collins
Three workers on holiday complex are being probed by Scotland Yard detectives

Investigation: Madeleine McCann and Praia Da Luz Ocean Club Resort
Three workers at the holiday complex where Madeleine McCann was last seen made an abnormally high number of calls “outside the resort” on the night she went missing.

A police source said: “Unlike their colleagues who called each other as the search proceeded, the three made domestic calls to areas of no geographic interest to the search.”

Scotland Yard detectives have asked for them to be interrogated, their bank accounts probed and their homes searched.

Police regard the three as prime suspects and may be working on a theory that the three-year-old was taken after disturbing burglars in her family’s Algarve apartment while parents Kate and Gerry were at a tapas restaurant on the site.

They would have known the layout of Praia da Luz Ocean Club and would have been required to make statements after Madeleine disappeared in May 2007.

It is thought a team of detectives led by Oporto-based missing persons specialist Helena Monteiro has found shortcomings in the original inquiry. Her squad are believed to want to speak to a number of people who have not been questioned before.

Ms Monteiro is working independently from a second branch of Portuguese detectives in Faro who are helping Scotland Yard with their inquiries. The Met Police refused to comment.

[stephen25000]

Madeleine McCann detectives probe phone calls made by workers at Portuguese holiday complex on night she disappeared
31 January 2014 09:40 PM By David Collins
Three workers on holiday complex are being probed by Scotland Yard detectives

Investigation: Madeleine McCann and Praia Da Luz Ocean Club Resort
Three workers at the holiday complex where Madeleine McCann was last seen made an abnormally high number of calls “outside the resort” on the night she went missing.

A police source said: “Unlike their colleagues who called each other as the search proceeded, the three made domestic calls to areas of no geographic interest to the search.”

Scotland Yard detectives have asked for them to be interrogated, their bank accounts probed and their homes searched.

Police regard the three as prime suspects and may be working on a theory that the three-year-old was taken after disturbing burglars in her family’s Algarve apartment while parents Kate and Gerry were at a tapas restaurant on the site.

They would have known the layout of Praia da Luz Ocean Club and would have been required to make statements after Madeleine disappeared in May 2007.

It is thought a team of detectives led by Oporto-based missing persons specialist Helena Monteiro has found shortcomings in the original inquiry. Her squad are believed to want to speak to a number of people who have not been questioned before.

Ms Monteiro is working independently from a second branch of Portuguese detectives in Faro who are helping Scotland Yard with their inquiries. The Met Police refused to comment.

and ?.................................

[sadie]

and ?.................................

Come on Stephen.  They are not going to tell us everything.

This is new to me

It is thought a team of detectives led by Oporto-based missing persons specialist Helena Monteiro has found shortcomings in the original inquiry. Her squad are believed to want to speak to a number of people who have not been questioned before

[stephen25000]

Come on Stephen.  They are not going to tell us everything.

This is new to me

We shall see.