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Offline Eleanor

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #465 on: December 14, 2018, 09:49:34 AM »

Clarence is my Cousin, docha know.  I never said that.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #466 on: December 14, 2018, 10:10:24 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on December 14, 2018, 09:49:34 AM
Clarence is my Cousin, docha know.  I never said that.
So you have a cousin called Clarence!
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Offline Eleanor

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #467 on: December 14, 2018, 10:12:56 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on December 14, 2018, 10:10:24 AM
So you have a cousin called Clarence!

I might have.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #468 on: December 14, 2018, 10:49:37 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on December 14, 2018, 09:07:57 AM
The words 'honest interpretation' appear in his introduction. He was as entitled to interpret the evidence as anyone else was in my opinion.

In law there, are, restrictions on what WE can say.... The SC may well have got it wrong in this case
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #469 on: December 14, 2018, 10:52:17 AM »
Quote from: Davel on December 14, 2018, 09:16:31 AM
He did more than that... He claimed as fact things that simply were not true

If he believed they were true then he wasn't lying. A lie is a statement used intentionally for the purpose of deception.

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Offline Eleanor

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #470 on: December 14, 2018, 11:08:58 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on December 14, 2018, 10:52:17 AM
If he believed they were true then he wasn't lying. A lie is a statement used intentionally for the purpose of deception.

An Opinion can be Untrue.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #471 on: December 14, 2018, 11:14:04 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on December 14, 2018, 11:08:58 AM
An Opinion can be Untrue.

Of course, but it doesn't mean it's a lie.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #472 on: December 14, 2018, 11:16:22 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on December 14, 2018, 11:14:04 AM
Of course, but it doesn't mean it's a lie.

Courts do actually decide on this sort of thing.  Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #473 on: December 14, 2018, 11:23:08 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on December 14, 2018, 10:52:17 AM
If he believed they were true then he wasn't lying. A lie is a statement used intentionally for the purpose of deception.
That's why I have avoided the word....
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #474 on: December 14, 2018, 12:03:27 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on December 14, 2018, 11:16:22 AM
Courts do actually decide on this sort of thing.  Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't.

The courts have decided in this case.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #475 on: December 14, 2018, 12:04:45 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on December 14, 2018, 12:03:27 PM
The courts have decided in this case.

And got it wrong, In My Opinion.
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Offline barrier

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #476 on: December 14, 2018, 12:09:14 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on December 14, 2018, 12:04:45 PM
And got it wrong, In My Opinion.


Legally? hard to argue against the Portuguse law unless you have absolute knowledge of their laws and  workings or morally?
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #477 on: December 14, 2018, 12:10:27 PM »
Quote from: barrier on December 14, 2018, 12:09:14 PM

Legally? hard to argue against the Portuguse law unless you have absolute knowledge of their laws and  workings or morally?

A Court Decision is still only an Opinion.
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Offline barrier

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #478 on: December 14, 2018, 12:19:39 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on December 14, 2018, 12:10:27 PM
A Court Decision is still only an Opinion.


Based on  law.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #479 on: December 14, 2018, 12:36:28 PM »
Quote from: barrier on December 14, 2018, 12:19:39 PM

Based on  law.

On what Law do you think The Judge of The Court of The First Instance based her Opinion?
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