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Offline Lace

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #975 on: December 20, 2018, 01:10:00 PM »
It was definitely different.

How many parents get the personal attention of a British Ambassador?
How many are involved with private detectives within 8 days of their child going missing?
How many parents apply to make their child a ward of court within 14 days of them going missing?
How many have the numbers of Chief Constables and the head of ACPO?
How many get supportive phone calls from Government ministers?

Maybe they got the attention of the British Ambassador as their child had disappeared?
I would expect they had advice about whether to make Madeleine a ward of court.
It was surely up to the Chief Constables and the head of ACPO whether or not they give their numbers to the McCann's.
I believe Sherry Blair was interested in the amber alert or something to do with missing children?   Of course they get involved it makes them more popular to the public.

Offline Lace

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #976 on: December 20, 2018, 01:11:00 PM »
In what way did they get involved with Private detectives 8 days after Madeleine went missing?

Offline The General

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #977 on: December 20, 2018, 02:59:09 PM »
Maybe they got the attention of the British Ambassador as their child had disappeared?
I would expect they had advice about whether to make Madeleine a ward of court.
It was surely up to the Chief Constables and the head of ACPO whether or not they give their numbers to the McCann's.
I believe Sherry Blair was interested in the amber alert or something to do with missing children?   Of course they get involved it makes them more popular to the public.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #978 on: December 20, 2018, 04:47:57 PM »
In what way did they get involved with Private detectives 8 days after Madeleine went missing?

Control Risks Group.
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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #979 on: December 20, 2018, 05:30:36 PM »
Control Risks Group.
Who got them on the scene?  Was it Mark Warner?    So was it Mark Warner controlling their risks?
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Offline Brietta

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #980 on: December 20, 2018, 05:37:45 PM »
Control Risks Group.

Control Risks is a risk consultancy firm which specialises in corporate security.

Financed anonymously, Control Risks Group acted as an independent group of advisers with experience in dealing with law enforcement in a foreign country.

Kate McCann wrote in her book that they ...
  • Arranged for the forensic testing of the twins hair for the presence of drugs since the Portuguese press was alive with the great CALPOL allegation which was a complete nonsense then and now.
  • Took statements from the McCanns because of the concern that the original statements might have lost much in translation ...
  • Control Risks introduced them to a former intelligence officer who was now working as a kidnap negotiator and counsellor

What makes you think they were Private Detectives employed to look for Madeleine?


"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #981 on: December 20, 2018, 05:39:46 PM »
Who got them on the scene?  Was it Mark Warner?    So was it Mark Warner controlling their risks?

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id376.htm

Private security team hired by Kate and Gerry McCann for secret investigation, 24 September 2007 ( report date)
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Offline Brietta

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #982 on: December 20, 2018, 05:51:09 PM »
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id376.htm

Private security team hired by Kate and Gerry McCann for secret investigation, 24 September 2007 ( report date)

Confirming what Kate wrote in her book regarding the firm paid for by an anonymous benefactor, "Control Risks introduced them to a former intelligence officer who was now working as a kidnap negotiator and counsellor" ...
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A former intelligence expert who has worked with CRG said: "They can offer advice on personal safety, counter safety. For example, who is watching the McCanns and even advice on hostage negotiation should that be needed. In addition . . . they will most likely offer the McCanns security advice and how to deal with bogus tips."
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #983 on: December 20, 2018, 05:55:53 PM »
Control Risks is a risk consultancy firm which specialises in corporate security.

Financed anonymously, Control Risks Group acted as an independent group of advisers with experience in dealing with law enforcement in a foreign country.

Kate McCann wrote in her book that they ...
  • Arranged for the forensic testing of the twins hair for the presence of drugs since the Portuguese press was alive with the great CALPOL allegation which was a complete nonsense then and now.
  • Took statements from the McCanns because of the concern that the original statements might have lost much in translation ...
  • Control Risks introduced them to a former intelligence officer who was now working as a kidnap negotiator and counsellor

What makes you think they were Private Detectives employed to look for Madeleine?

Now why would a Risk Consultancy company be employing detectives?

By the Sunday evening, we found ourselves giving our statements again, this time to a couple of detectives from Control Risks [madeleine]
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Offline Venturi Swirl

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« Reply #984 on: December 20, 2018, 06:04:36 PM »
Now why would a Risk Consultancy company be employing detectives?

By the Sunday evening, we found ourselves giving our statements again, this time to a couple of detectives from Control Risks [madeleine]
I thought private detectives were not allowed to operate in Portugal on a live police investigation? 
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #985 on: December 20, 2018, 06:37:50 PM »
I thought private detectives were not allowed to operate in Portugal on a live police investigation?

When did the police find out about them?
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Offline Venturi Swirl

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« Reply #986 on: December 20, 2018, 06:38:37 PM »
When did the police find out about them?
No idea.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

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« Reply #987 on: December 20, 2018, 06:43:12 PM »
Control Risks Group.
At whose behest were CRG brought in?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What is the lie in Amarals book. The truth of the lie.
« Reply #989 on: December 20, 2018, 07:03:36 PM »
At whose behest were CRG brought in?
I see it has been cover on the forum 5 years ago.  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3083.msg113421#msg113421  "Topic: No 1 - The Search for Madeleine McCann and Control Risks Group (CRG)"  Was that the first topic covered on the McCann case on this forum?
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