Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.

[stephen25000]

The PT system would have required countering evidence... What evidence do you think could have been produced?

- Part of the hysteria preceded his book, some of which was the result of leaks under his tenure. Convenient.

- Paiva testified that Amaral's book hadn't stopped the PJ from continuing to investigate leads. Hardly surpising, as he was the desk officer. However, no one asked him which leads he'd actually followed up on.

Hysteria ?

You don't have to read Amaral's book, not to believe in the mccanns story of abduction.

[Brietta]

We shall see.

However, if the mccanns lose their appeal, their egos will result in an appeal.

I think they have already 'won' as far as the perception of world opinion is concerned where it is agreed that the verdict of the libel trial proved that the accusation that they had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance is a false one.

That is reinforced by the current investigation being carried out by SY and the PJ.

I'm not as certain as you are that this appeal is going to be the success for Mr Amaral which you hope for ... and the last thing in the world he may want subsequently is the scrutiny of a European court ... bearing in mind Amnesty International opinions on another missing child case with which he had an involvement.

[Carana]

Hysteria ?

You don't have to read Amaral's book, not to believe in the mccanns story of abduction.

Set the "parents-left-them-alone" issue, for a moment: what else contributed to the dunnit mental conviction aside from PJ garbled leaks, during his tenure,  prior to - but reinforced by - the spoutings of the erstwhile senior officer in the case?

[Brietta]

The gofundme page is in English. Most people in Portugal speak Portuguese.

      How much have the Portuguese sceptics contributed towards the (Portuguese) fund for legal expenses?

[Eleanor]

      How much have the Portuguese sceptics contributed towards the (Portuguese) fund for legal expenses?

Not a lot.

[Carana]

      How much have the Portuguese sceptics contributed towards the (Portuguese) fund for legal expenses?

I've never understood why a separate appeal was established in the first place.

[pegasus]

      How much have the Portuguese sceptics contributed towards the (Portuguese) fund for legal expenses?

It's because the gofundme format is much better at fundraising than having a seperate website.
If there was a gofundme page in Portuguese language it would have many donators IMO.
 

[stephen25000]

Set the "parents-left-them-alone" issue, for a moment: what else contributed to the dunnit mental conviction aside from PJ garbled leaks, during his tenure,  prior to - but reinforced by - the spoutings of the erstwhile senior officer in the case?

Read around.

[Brietta]

It's because the gofundme format is much better at fundraising than having a seperate website.
If there was a gofundme page in Portuguese language it would have many donators IMO.

              Perhaps if Portimao PT contact Ms Baulch ... she might be able to advise.

[Alice Purjorick]

The PT system would have required countering evidence... What evidence do you think could have been produced?

- Part of the hysteria preceded his book, some of which was the result of leaks under his tenure. Convenient.

- Paiva testified that Amaral's book hadn't stopped the PJ from continuing to investigate leads. Hardly surpising, as he was the desk officer. However, no one asked him which leads he'd actually followed up on.

The judge ruled that the plaintiffs claim the book impeded the search was not proven.
Owt else dinna matter.

[Carana]

It's because the gofundme format is much better at fundraising than having a seperate website.
If there was a gofundme page in Portuguese language it would have many donators IMO.

Why?

[faithlilly]

Of course there's a nuance.  There can be no question that a book of lies sold across countries of Europe, declaring that Madeleine is definitely dead, that her parents dunit and know she's dead, that same said parents caused her death, hid her body, fabricated an 'abduction' and launched a fraudulent 'appeal' in their (dead) daughter's name, will have harmed the search for Madeleine.

Established,  beyond all doubt. 

But 'proving' it, or perhaps more accurately, quantifying it, was the tricky bit.

It can't be established without being proven and there, as they say, is the rub !!

[misty]

It's because the gofundme format is much better at fundraising than having a seperate website.
If there was a gofundme page in Portuguese language it would have many donators IMO.

The GFM format is only more effective when it is Facebook verified. Why didn't one of the PJGA administrators put their own name behind it to promote the cause in both Portugal & the rest of the world?
As Ms Baulch is no longer the account holder, do contributors have any idea where their donations are even going now?

[pegasus]

The GFM format is only more effective when it is Facebook verified. Why didn't one of the PJGA administrators put their own name behind it to promote the cause in both Portugal & the rest of the world?
As Ms Baulch is no longer the account holder, do contributors have any idea where their donations are even going now?

£38,325 = effective

[misty]

£38,325 = effective

It's only effective if the money has reached the correct destination.
Perhaps a statement from Ms Baulch about why she was "sold down the river" would be in order, just to clarify matters for the contributors.