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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4470 on: February 11, 2016, 06:30:34 PM »
I understand the alerts, you however seem to believe that the most likely cause of the alerts is the one that should be discounted and ignored.

and you are assuming that the most likely cause of the alerts is a cadaver...there is absolutely no proof that is the case

Offline Brietta

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4471 on: February 11, 2016, 06:32:27 PM »
It's obvious, isn't it?

Rather than (as widely touted I think!,) being the McCanns' trump-card,  the Zapata case will be Amaral's trump card, the deciding factor in reserving the legal tide in the libel trial and that will see Amaral, after all, triumph ....

After the long, long wait ... is the Ace not really the A but the Z ??   A truly cunning plan.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

ferryman

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4472 on: February 11, 2016, 06:39:03 PM »
I understand the alerts, you however seem to believe that the most likely cause of the alerts is the one that should be discounted and ignored.

Think?

That the alerts should be ignored is both what the law says and what common sense decrees ....

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4473 on: February 11, 2016, 06:48:21 PM »
If they can, defense lawyers will produce evidence of innocence in court. If they can't, they will try to discredit prosecution evidence of guilt. Gerry McCann's lawyers intended to use the evidence presented by the lawyers in the Zapata case should the McCanns be charged. The Zapata lawyers had no evidence of innocence, so they used the 'unreliability' argument to convince the Judge that the cadaver dog alerts were of no use. They were successful, but we now know the dogs were right.
They could have drawn on numerous examples of unreliability in this area, Zampo the cadaver dog for one.

Offline Brietta

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4474 on: February 11, 2016, 08:39:28 PM »
They could have drawn on numerous examples of unreliability in this area, Zampo the cadaver dog for one.

Eddie in Jersey could be another.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4475 on: February 11, 2016, 10:22:59 PM »
Think?

That the alerts should be ignored is both what the law says and what common sense decrees ....

The law says they can't be used as evidence, not ignored.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4476 on: February 11, 2016, 10:34:31 PM »
The law says they can't be used as evidence, not ignored.

could you provide a cite where the law states they cannot be ignored

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4477 on: February 11, 2016, 10:37:29 PM »
could you provide a cite where the law states they cannot be ignored

When you provide one that says they should be, which is what is being claimed.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4478 on: February 11, 2016, 10:40:06 PM »
When you provide one that says they should be, which is what is being claimed.
The law says they can't be used as evidence, not ignored.


this is your claim...can you substantiate it...the answer is no

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4479 on: February 11, 2016, 10:49:01 PM »
The law says they can't be used as evidence, not ignored.

your post accusing me of lying has been removed,,that speaks volumes

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4480 on: February 11, 2016, 10:50:42 PM »
The law says they can't be used as evidence, not ignored.


this is your claim...can you substantiate it...the answer is no

ferryman stated
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alerts should be ignored is ... what the law says
so up to him to substantiate.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4481 on: February 11, 2016, 10:57:14 PM »
ferryman stated  so up to him to substantiate.

the alerts have no value...if you do not realise that then you do not understand the alerts

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4482 on: February 11, 2016, 10:59:34 PM »
ferryman stated  so up to him to substantiate.


the alerts are ignored by the courts...i thought everyone was aware of that

Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4483 on: February 12, 2016, 12:03:02 AM »
The only importance of the dog alerts is as a weapon in the on-going battle of words between numpties like us on internet chatrooms.  In the real world those alerts were consigned to the dog bowl of history eons ago.
...and Mr R employed two welsh cadaver dogs and ground-penetrating radar to dupe us numpties into imagining he was searching for something cadaver dogs and ground-penetrating radar search for - a cunning plan indeed!

Offline Brietta

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4484 on: February 12, 2016, 12:44:53 AM »
...and Mr R employed two welsh cadaver dogs and ground-penetrating radar to dupe us numpties into imagining he was searching for something cadaver dogs and ground-penetrating radar search for - a cunning plan indeed!

... and a VRD from Yorkshire was deployed on the Orkney island of Sanday and found human remains.  The same dog was used in Jersey and found nothing.
  • there was something for the dog to find on Sanday
  • there was nothing for the dog to find in Jersey
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....