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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #915 on: August 30, 2018, 05:57:04 PM »
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #916 on: August 30, 2018, 05:59:58 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 30, 2018, 05:53:30 PM
What sort of action would you have in mind ?
Depends doesn’t it?
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Offline Sunny

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #917 on: August 30, 2018, 06:02:52 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 30, 2018, 05:46:42 PM
If I admitted to being one of the dossier compilers what sort of reaction could I expect from Brend’s supporters on here?  How about if I gave you my full name and contact details, could you guarantee I would be safe from harrassment and abuse?

If you admitted to be a compiler then you would get nothing from me apart from a couple of questions.

1) Did you think of any possible consequences of providing the full details of sceptics to various sources in the media
2) Would you do it again.

There may be more questions but I can't think of any at present. Of course you could admit it (if you were a dossier compiler of course) without giving your name and contact details. I can't see why anyone would need those, unless they were compiling a dossier of course.
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Offline jassi

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #918 on: August 30, 2018, 06:04:29 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 30, 2018, 05:59:58 PM
Depends doesn’t it?

Does It ? Upon what does it depend?
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #919 on: August 30, 2018, 06:11:10 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on August 30, 2018, 06:02:52 PM
If you admitted to be a compiler then you would get nothing from me apart from a couple of questions.

1) Did you think of any possible consequences of providing the full details of sceptics to various sources in the media
2) Would you do it again.

There may be more questions but I can't think of any at present. Of course you could admit it (if you were a dossier compiler of course) without giving your name and contact details. I can't see why anyone would need those, unless they were compiling a dossier of course.
If I was a (the) dossier compiler I would answer your questions.  As I’m not I can’t.  I could pretend to be one though if you like, and see where we go with it...?
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #920 on: August 30, 2018, 06:12:43 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 30, 2018, 06:04:29 PM
Does It ? Upon what does it depend?
What was said, where it was said, how it was said, why it was said, who said it, etc.  Do you think I would have no right to take action against those that offend me, seriously?
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Offline jassi

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #921 on: August 30, 2018, 06:18:53 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 30, 2018, 06:12:43 PM
What was said, where it was said, how it was said, why it was said, who said it, etc. Do you think I would have no right to take action against those that offend me, seriously?

That wasn't my query, which was about your action.
Not sure that you should or would have a right, as your action might be illegal.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #922 on: August 30, 2018, 06:20:09 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 30, 2018, 06:04:29 PM
Does It ? Upon what does it depend?

As most bullies are cowards at heart it would depend if they made a grovelling apology
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #923 on: August 30, 2018, 06:21:38 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 30, 2018, 06:18:53 PM
That wasn't my query, which was about your action.
Not sure that you should or would have a right, as your action might be illegal.
I don’t do illegal so would I have the right to take action legally or not?
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Offline jassi

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #924 on: August 30, 2018, 06:25:53 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 30, 2018, 06:21:38 PM
I don’t do illegal so would I have the right to take action, legally or not?

No body has given you this 'right', though you have  a degree of freedom of action, as long as you stay within the law.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #925 on: August 30, 2018, 06:27:00 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 30, 2018, 06:25:53 PM
No body has given you this 'right', though you have  a degree of freedom of action, as long as you stay within the law.

Then he has that right... As I do..
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #926 on: August 30, 2018, 06:32:35 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 30, 2018, 06:25:53 PM
No body has given you this 'right', though you have  a degree of freedom of action, as long as you stay within the law.
In other words it is nonsense to say I have no right to take action against someone who offends me.  I can sue them for starters, if their offensive statement is based on lies, I can remonstrate with them in person or by message, I can reciprocate in kind, if the offensive statement concerns my sexuality or ethnic origin or religion I can go to the police, likewise if the offensive statement is threatening or intimidating, I can even go to the media, if the offensive statement was made by someone with a public profile that would be in the public interest, or of interest to the public.  Plenty of ways I could take action, all within the law.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #927 on: August 30, 2018, 06:39:16 PM »
Brenda thought she had the right to say what she liked with impunity... She didn't.   
 
« Last Edit: August 31, 2018, 11:55:01 AM by John »
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #928 on: August 30, 2018, 06:57:03 PM »
Is it true that every UK citizen has the right not to have their name publicised by the media until they have been charged with a crime, as per the OP? Wasn’t there a nurse in the news recently arrested for murdering eight babies, her name released but no charges brought so far.  Who’s to blame if she were to take her own life?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #929 on: August 30, 2018, 07:53:13 PM »
Twitter is a lawless place where insults seem to be the norm. This forum is pretty good in my opinion as there are rules preventing such behaviour.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2018, 11:57:34 AM by John »
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