Author Topic: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?  (Read 138952 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1260 on: September 03, 2018, 09:03:26 AM »
I have seen sites with threads aimed at named individuals such as Amaral and Grime. I don't think they are members.

Depends if they are criticising their professional performance... Which is legitimate and not the same as the abuse directed at the mccanns

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1261 on: September 03, 2018, 09:07:32 AM »
Depends if they are criticising their professional performance... Which is legitimate and not the same as the abuse directed at the mccanns

Actually you have got that the wrong way round IMO.

Fellow professionals criticising someone if fine, layman isn’t and can be libellous. It is legitimate to criticise someone’s everyday behaviour based on fact.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1262 on: September 03, 2018, 09:49:21 AM »
Actually you have got that the wrong way round IMO.

Fellow professionals criticising someone if fine, layman isn’t and can be libellous. It is legitimate to criticise someone’s everyday behaviour based on fact.

No it's, quite legitimate for a layman to criticise a professional based on fact... SYare constantly criticised here... Not always on fact

Brunt as, a journalist is criticised

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1263 on: September 03, 2018, 09:51:46 AM »
Actually you have got that the wrong way round IMO.

Fellow professionals criticising someone if fine, layman isn’t and can be libellous. It is legitimate to criticise someone’s everyday behaviour based on fact.

Brenda went far beyond criticism... She was abusive according to the police

Offline G-Unit

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1264 on: September 03, 2018, 09:54:03 AM »
No it's, quite legitimate for a layman to criticise a professional based on fact... SYare constantly criticised here... Not always on fact

Brunt as, a journalist is criticised

There's a difference between criticism and abuse.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1265 on: September 03, 2018, 09:56:30 AM »
There's a difference between criticism and abuse.

I agree... Brenda was, abusive

Offline Erngath

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1266 on: September 03, 2018, 10:00:37 AM »
Actually you have got that the wrong way round IMO.

Fellow professionals criticising someone if fine, layman isn’t and can be libellous. It is legitimate to criticise someone’s everyday behaviour based on fact.

Really?

So a lay person cannot criticise their own doctor, dentist, their child's teacher.?

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1267 on: September 03, 2018, 10:03:06 AM »
Actually you have got that the wrong way round IMO.

Fellow professionals criticising someone if fine, layman isn’t and can be libellous. It is legitimate to criticise someone’s everyday behaviour based on fact.

Just Re read your post and you are quite wrong... It is quite legitimate  for a layman to criticise a professional... Doesn't have to be libellous ...try reading sone feedback from patients on NHS sites

Offline G-Unit

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1268 on: September 03, 2018, 10:03:51 AM »
I agree... Brenda was, abusive

And others have abused Amaral and Grime in my opinion.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1269 on: September 03, 2018, 10:04:03 AM »
I have seen sites with threads aimed at named individuals such as Amaral and Grime. I don't think they are members.

Have either Amaral or Grime been stalked at work, leaflets dropped through their neighbours letter boxes.,their children photographed, places where their children went to play visited.??

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1270 on: September 03, 2018, 10:06:44 AM »
And others have abused Amaral and Grime in my opinion.

I haven't seen either accused of criminal offences they have not even been arrested for or use of the word hatred, towards them... Abuse has many levels... Can you cite any abuse towards amaral or grime at the level towards the mccanns

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1271 on: September 03, 2018, 10:44:25 AM »
One way or the other it has to stop.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1272 on: September 03, 2018, 10:49:28 AM »
And others have abused Amaral and Grime in my opinion.
As a professional you should expect criticism and learn from it... That's what I do

Offline Sunny

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1273 on: September 03, 2018, 11:51:44 AM »
One way or the other it has to stop.
What exactly has to stop Rob?

Questioning professionals in the Madeleine case appears to be fair game there fore surely questioning what the couple will also be acceptable.

I agree abuse and hatred including threats must stop but they must stop from both sides.

You also say "one way or the other it has to stop" does this mean that you agree with those who created the dossier and sent to to the media

Just a few thoughts and my opinion of course.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #1274 on: September 03, 2018, 12:04:13 PM »
Have either Amaral or Grime been stalked at work, leaflets dropped through their neighbours letter boxes.,their children photographed, places where their children went to play visited.??

I have no intention of playing the 'this abuse was worse than that abuse' game. No laws have been broken and all abuse is wrong whichever form it takes and whoever it's directed at. Anyone who disapproves of abuse should condemn all abuse in my opinion.
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