Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?

[Sunny]

Both do extremely well in 2018, given the constant goading they receive - wouldn't you agree? 

Arbiter

Definition of arbiter. 1 : a person with power to decide a dispute : judge The mayor will act as the final arbiter in any dispute between board members.9 Oct 2018
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Now explain please Vertigo Swirls power of arbitration on this forum.  I am sure you know what I was actually referring to.

[Venturi Swirl]

Arbiter

Definition of arbiter. 1 : a person with power to decide a dispute : judge The mayor will act as the final arbiter in any dispute between board members.9 Oct 2018
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Now explain please Vertigo Swirls power of arbitration on this forum.  I am sure you know what I was actually referring to.

oh dear, were you by any chance accusing us of somehow being complicit in Brenda’s death? 

[G-Unit]

Although it's not a phrase I would use there are some things which arouse 'moral outrage' in everyone. The myrder of an innocent child, for example.

At the other end of the scale are things which arouse 'moral outrage' only in some people. Monty Python's Life of Brian, for example.

So some things outrage everyone and there are usually laws prohibiting these things. The things which don't outrage everyone are not against the law. It;s a natter of opinion and no-one's opinion can be allowed to dominate.

One man's meat is another man's poison, as they say. 

[Mr Gray]

Although it's not a phrase I would use there are some things which arouse 'moral outrage' in everyone. The myrder of an innocent child, for example.

At the other end of the scale are things which arouse 'moral outrage' only in some people. Monty Python's Life of Brian, for example.

So some things outrage everyone and there are usually laws prohibiting these things. The things which don't outrage everyone are not against the law. It;s a natter of opinion and no-one's opinion can be allowed to dominate.

One man's meat is another man's poison, as they say.

Not an IMO in sight.... Contrary to what you think there are things that outrage some which are against the law

[Venturi Swirl]

Although it's not a phrase I would use there are some things which arouse 'moral outrage' in everyone. The myrder of an innocent child, for example.

At the other end of the scale are things which arouse 'moral outrage' only in some people. Monty Python's Life of Brian, for example.

So some things outrage everyone and there are usually laws prohibiting these things. The things which don't outrage everyone are not against the law. It;s a natter of opinion and no-one's opinion can be allowed to dominate.

One man's meat is another man's poison, as they say.

Setting all personalities aside, writing spiteful, bitchy, accusatory, judgemental, untrue things publicly on line about alleged victims of crime and their immediate families tends not to be “meat” to most people.  IMO, most people view such behaviour as poison. 

[Eleanor]

As if I’d ever come running to you ever, for anything!

I think Alice was joking, Vee.  He's really good at obscure jokes.

[Venturi Swirl]

I think Alice was joking, Vee.  He's really good at obscure jokes.

Arggh, don’t call me Vee, they’ll think I’m that ghastly paedo!!

[Eleanor]

Arggh, don’t call me Vee, they’ll think I’m that ghastly paedo!!

So much for my Perceptions.

PS.  Which ghastly Paedo?

[slartibartfast]

Arggh, don’t call me Vee, they’ll think I’m that ghastly paedo!!

Why would we think that?

[Robittybob1]

So much for my Perceptions.

PS.  Which ghastly Paedo?

Vee8

[G-Unit]

Setting all personalities aside, writing spiteful, bitchy, accusatory, judgemental, untrue things publicly on line about the IMO victims of crime and their immediate families tends not to be “meat” to most people.  IMO, most people view such behaviour as poison.

The problem arises when one person sees something as spiteful, bitchy, accusatory, judgemental or untrue and another person doesn't. It's just competing opinions.

[G-Unit]

Arggh, don’t call me Vee, they’ll think I’m that ghastly paedo!!

Was he always ghastly or only after he was exposed? I read some of his stuff and it was definitely  spiteful, bitchy, accusatory, judgemental or untrue in my opinion.

[Eleanor]

Vee8

Thank You, Rob.  Very silly of me.  Sorry.

[faithlilly]

What if they haven’t broken the law?  Does society (includng the media) not have the right to name and shame people who behave in a morally repugnant way, sending out the message that such behaviour whilst not technically illegal, is still not acceptable?

No.

[faithlilly]

Please tell us what you understand by the term “due process”.  My understanding is that it relates to the judicial system, so in what way was Brenda denied due process and what would have been the ramifications of this denial of due process on Brenda had she lived, in your opinion?

The dossier was handed to the Met. If they had found criminal behaviour by Brenda she would have been arrested, charged and tried. That is due process. Brenda was denied this basic right under English law and anyone who condones this has no respect for the law.