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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Madeleine McCann: Mari Luz Cortes connection, fact and fiction.
« Reply #105 on: October 28, 2018, 06:44:25 PM »
Did I say it was?
You need to read my post in conjunction with Angelo's then you may have the full appreciation.
End of game.
Play ping pong on your own.
Whatever happened to "you are not talking to me again"?
Does this mean we are now friends again.
If I thought you weren't my friend, I just don't think I could bear it.
You said the billboard was possibly defaced by someone annoyed at having a billboard illegally erected on their land.  I see you were just mischievously speculating and have no basis whatsoever for this suggestion.   I believe it is right to forgive one’s abusers and that is what I have chosen to do with you, although next time you abuse me on this forum I may have a change of heart.  We will just have to wait and see, won’t we? 8(>((
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Madeleine McCann: Mari Luz Cortes connection, fact and fiction.
« Reply #106 on: October 28, 2018, 08:26:50 PM »
And there were amateurs translating the english statements into the portuguese you are reading....LOL

In my opinion Murat, as a native English speaker, was less likely to misunderstand what the witnesses were saying.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #107 on: October 28, 2018, 08:33:19 PM »
In my opinion Murat, as a native English speaker, was less likely to misunderstand what the witnesses were saying.

This was discussed some time ago...and as i recall...his english was good but his portuguese questionable.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #108 on: October 28, 2018, 08:37:49 PM »
And you you said a few days ago that they were fairly accurate Davel. Which is it?

you still dont understand...the translations of the portuguese files are fairly accurate....we can check them. we cannot check the statemnts of the tapas or pennington.. because we dont have the original statements
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #109 on: October 29, 2018, 06:12:38 AM »
This was discussed some time ago...and as i recall...his english was good but his portuguese questionable.

Well if you prefer to believe what Charlotte Pennington told the newspapers, feel free.
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Offline Sunny

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« Reply #110 on: October 29, 2018, 06:40:35 AM »
you still dont understand...the translations of the portuguese files are fairly accurate....we can check them. we cannot check the statemnts of the tapas or pennington.. because we dont have the original statements

But we do Davel

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CHARLOTTE-PENNINGTON.htm
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann: Mari Luz Cortes connection, fact and fiction.
« Reply #111 on: October 29, 2018, 07:44:46 AM »
But we do Davel

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CHARLOTTE-PENNINGTON.htm

No we don't... We have a non verbatim account of her statement written by Murat

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #112 on: October 29, 2018, 08:10:19 AM »
No we don't... We have a non verbatim account of her statement written by Murat

If I sign something I'm ratifying it. It's then officially valid. All those statements were signed therefore they are valid pieces of evidence whether you like it or not.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #113 on: October 29, 2018, 08:16:59 AM »
If I sign something I'm ratifying it. It's then officially valid. All those statements were signed therefore they are valid pieces of evidence whether you like it or not.
They are pieces of evidence... If you think they are, accurate you are misguided imo... It doesn't really bother me as it highlights the inadequacy of the PJ
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #114 on: October 29, 2018, 08:48:13 AM »
They are pieces of evidence... If you think they are, accurate you are misguided imo... It doesn't really bother me as, bit highlights the inadequacy of the PJ

If they are inaccurate the fault lies with those who signed them, no-one else. Illiterate people in the UK are in exactly the same position as the witnesses in Portugal were.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

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« Reply #115 on: October 29, 2018, 09:01:31 AM »
They are pieces of evidence... If you think they are, accurate you are misguided imo... It doesn't really bother me as it highlights the inadequacy of the PJ
Wrong re the PJ.

A mobile phone was stolen from a family member a while back.

One of the steps involved was required to be discussed in Portuguese.  The fact that the officers spoke English was irrelevant, it had to be conducted in Portuguese.

Hence a translator was required.
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #116 on: October 29, 2018, 09:14:54 AM »
If they are inaccurate the fault lies with those who signed them, no-one else. Illiterate people in the UK are in exactly the same position as the witnesses in Portugal were.

No... The fault lies with the PJ... The statements should have been recorded

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #117 on: October 29, 2018, 09:47:55 AM »
Wrong re the PJ.

A mobile phone was stolen from a family member a while back.

One of the steps involved was required to be discussed in Portuguese.  The fact that the officers spoke English was irrelevant, it had to be conducted in Portuguese.

Hence a translator was required.

It's, s, different scenario... These witness statements could have resulted in a, serious miscarriage of justice

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #118 on: October 29, 2018, 09:58:00 AM »
No... The fault lies with the PJ... The statements should have been recorded

Should statements taken in the UK be recorded too?
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #119 on: October 29, 2018, 09:59:13 AM »
Should statements taken in the UK be recorded too?

They are, in cases, where suspects do not speak english