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Offline puglove

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #495 on: May 02, 2016, 12:23:01 AM »
Is it usual for a British child to be kidnapped abroad?

Would Gerry leave his camera or wallet on the bed?
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Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #496 on: May 02, 2016, 12:49:55 AM »
Craig Murray says:
Embassy staff were .... ordered that British authorities were to be present at every contact between the McCanns and Portuguese police.
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/the-strange-case-of-gordon-brown-and-the-mccanns

Here is confirmation that Craig is telling the truth. D.Hughes says:
"We've had the British Consul from the Foreign Office present during the questioning"
http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/local-news/mccanns-sos-to-miliband-1-1281209

« Last Edit: May 02, 2016, 12:54:17 AM by pegasus »

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #497 on: May 02, 2016, 01:02:11 AM »
Craig Murray says:
Embassy staff were .... ordered that British authorities were to be present at every contact between the McCanns and Portuguese police.
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/the-strange-case-of-gordon-brown-and-the-mccanns

Here is confirmation that Craig is telling the truth. D.Hughes says:
"We've had the British Consul from the Foreign Office present during the questioning"
http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/local-news/mccanns-sos-to-miliband-1-1281209

The link also says ...

"The likelihood of Kate and Gerry McCann being charged over the death of their daughter was dramatically increased this morning, after DNA found in the family's hire-car was reported as 'almost certainly' Madeleine's."

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/cm/jarrow-and-hebburn-gazette/news/local-news/mccanns-sos-to-miliband-1-1281209#ixzz47S3Vbc41

In the light of such decidedly false information leaked by the investigation circulating about them and which they knew to be impossible ... do you think they weren't entitled as ordinary citizens to approach the foreign secretary of the day for protection.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #498 on: May 02, 2016, 01:09:01 AM »
The link also says ...

"The likelihood of Kate and Gerry McCann being charged over the death of their daughter was dramatically increased this morning, after DNA found in the family's hire-car was reported as 'almost certainly' Madeleine's."

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/cm/jarrow-and-hebburn-gazette/news/local-news/mccanns-sos-to-miliband-1-1281209#ixzz47S3Vbc41

In the light of such decidedly false information leaked by the investigation circulating about them and which they knew to be impossible ... do you think they weren't entitled as ordinary citizens to approach the foreign secretary of the day for protection.
That information was released on 11th Sept Brietta therefore it cannot possibly have been justification for UK government presence at every meeting between the PJ and GM/KM from 4th May to 7th Sept inclusive.

Offline mercury

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #499 on: May 02, 2016, 01:12:50 AM »
That information was released on 11th Sept Brietta therefore it cannot possibly have been justification for UK government presence at every meeting between the PJ and GM/KM from 4th May to 7th Sept inclusive.

The devil is alwys in the detail, oops brietta

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Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #500 on: May 02, 2016, 01:27:30 AM »
The devil is alwys in the detail, oops brietta

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Although to be fair, that regional newspaper article indicates there was an intention to request additional help from the UK government soon after 11th Sept.

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #501 on: May 02, 2016, 01:32:02 AM »
That information was released on 11th Sept Brietta therefore it cannot possibly have been justification for UK government presence at every meeting between the PJ and GM/KM from 4th May to 7th Sept inclusive.

At the time that information was merely the latest in a long line of propaganda stories leaked by the investigation and directed against Madeleine's parents.

"This is a very badly told story" Diário de Notícias
 
by: José Manuel Oliveira and Paula Martinheira

05 May 2007

The disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the English three-year-old child that was on holidays in Lagos, "is a very badly told story", a source from the Polícia Judiciária in Portimão has confided to DN. The statement reflects the authorities' doubts concerning the "confused" depositions that were given by the witnesses yesterday, throughout the day.

///   ///

The parents, who were taken to the PJ in Portimão at around mid-morning, refused to speak to the journalists, but advanced the idea that the apartment had been broken into, to the British media. Nevertheless, the resort's administration and the GNR assert that "there were no signs of a break-in whatsoever".
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id119.html




Therefore within hours of Madeleine's abduction and while her case was being treated as such by the officers on the ground ... someone somewhere in the PJ was spinning against her parents and using the Portuguese press to do so.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #502 on: May 02, 2016, 01:49:51 AM »
"11 September 2007 ... if the situation progresses further, we'll make direct contact again  ..."

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/cm/jarrow-and-hebburn-gazette/news/local-news/mccanns-sos-to-miliband-1-1281209
« Last Edit: May 02, 2016, 01:52:33 AM by pegasus »

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #503 on: May 02, 2016, 02:14:19 AM »
"11 September 2007 ... if the situation progresses further, we'll make direct contact again  ..."

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/cm/jarrow-and-hebburn-gazette/news/local-news/mccanns-sos-to-miliband-1-1281209

Their daughter was missing and as early as 5th May someone within the PJ investigation was attacking them in the Portuguese press picked up worldwide ... and continued to do so relentlessly.

I really fail to see where you of all people are subscribing to the conspiracy theories put around about shadowy government interference.

If the British government were exercising their duty of protecting British citizens abroad that is fine by me ... and no-one was in more need of that protection than an innocent couple whose name was being systematically destroyed for some reason or other by those who would have been better employed looking for a missing child. imo
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #504 on: May 02, 2016, 02:36:00 AM »
"11 September 2007 ... if the situation progresses further, we'll make direct contact again  ..."

Things certainly did progress further over the following days.
So IMO soon after 11th Sept they did make direct contact again with the highest level of UK Govt.
Remember this is after they and all the UK police had returned to England.
So what exactly did they request during this direct contact?
« Last Edit: May 02, 2016, 02:40:33 AM by pegasus »

Offline mercury

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #505 on: May 02, 2016, 03:05:58 AM »
Their daughter was missing and as early as 5th May someone within the PJ investigation was attacking them in the Portuguese press picked up worldwide ... and continued to do so relentlessly.



As early as 5th may philomena mccann was being fed lies and attacking the pj

Ie she said on tv that the pj took 5 hours to arrive, dont  you agree bretta that was false? Thnk about it, i will catch up tomrrow, nighty nite x
« Last Edit: May 02, 2016, 03:12:24 AM by mercury »

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #506 on: May 02, 2016, 05:45:35 AM »
I wondered why Special Branch got involved.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #507 on: May 02, 2016, 12:24:16 PM »
"11 September 2007 ... if the situation progresses further, we'll make direct contact again  ..."

Things certainly did progress further over the following days.
So IMO soon after 11th Sept they did make direct contact again with the highest level of UK Govt.
Remember this is after they and all the UK police had returned to England.
So what exactly did they request during this direct contact?

Assistance to find their daughter? since it was quite clear by that stage that the Portuguese police weren't doing so.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #508 on: May 02, 2016, 12:56:57 PM »
I wondered why Special Branch got involved.

Do you mean "what was the national security interest" ?
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #509 on: May 02, 2016, 01:06:06 PM »
Is it true that the UK consul sat in on all 3 formal police interviews of GM/KM in September 2007?

"We've had the British Consul from the Foreign Office present during the questioning"
http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/local-news/mccanns-sos-to-miliband-1-1281209
I don't recall anything like that in Kate's book.
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