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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1305 on: February 24, 2017, 07:45:43 PM »
How did they rule it out? Was it impossible? Did they somehow prove that it didn't happen? Or did they actually not pay it much attention?

As a remote hypothesis, the possibility of the minor leaving the apartment by her own means was explored – that would be highly unlikely physically – and after, because of an accident or by a third person intervention, she would have disappeared.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

Do they say why it was 'a remote hypothesis' or why it was 'highly unlikely physically'? I can't find any more information on this.

The enquiry ruled out 'woke and wandered'.

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1306 on: February 24, 2017, 07:46:07 PM »
He also gave a description of the ambient lighting in the room which was commensurate with the shutter being raised allowing the gentle street lighting to be seen shining through the curtains.

Gerry's statement explains that one. Some slats were open so light got through. Truth is simple.

"The outside blinds were closed with only two or three slats open."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1307 on: February 24, 2017, 08:56:52 PM »
The enquiry ruled out 'woke and wandered'.
It was thought highly unlikely but no reasons were given.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1308 on: January 12, 2020, 06:37:05 PM »
Some thing to pass a winters day with I suppose.Not much else happening.Not much different from the opening post it seems which was in 2013.Other news lets are available.


Ex-detective Mark Williams-Thomas says Madeleine McCann case is 'unsolvable' because a crucial CCTV camera was switched off when she vanished

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7878859/Ex-detective-says-Madeleine-McCann-case-unsolvable.html
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Offline jassi

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1309 on: January 12, 2020, 06:52:12 PM »
Some thing to pass a winters day with I suppose.Not much else happening.Not much different from the opening post it seems which was in 2013.Other news lets are available.


Ex-detective Mark Williams-Thomas says Madeleine McCann case is 'unsolvable' because a crucial CCTV camera was switched off when she vanished

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7878859/Ex-detective-says-Madeleine-McCann-case-unsolvable.html

So who gets the blame for this ?
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1310 on: January 12, 2020, 06:58:27 PM »
Some thing to pass a winters day with I suppose.Not much else happening.Not much different from the opening post it seems which was in 2013.Other news lets are available.


Ex-detective Mark Williams-Thomas says Madeleine McCann case is 'unsolvable' because a crucial CCTV camera was switched off when she vanished

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7878859/Ex-detective-says-Madeleine-McCann-case-unsolvable.html

For those who believe KM was telling the truth about the open window/raised shutter how can this be explained if MM woke and wandered? 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1311 on: January 12, 2020, 07:09:24 PM »
For those who believe KM was telling the truth about the open window/raised shutter how can this be explained if MM woke and wandered?

If you start at the beginning of this thread it was much discussed with obviously no agreement of various posters who are no longer posting.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1312 on: January 12, 2020, 07:09:58 PM »
For those who believe KM was telling the truth about the open window/raised shutter how can this be explained if MM woke and wandered?

a burglar opened the window...saw the children and went no further...this woke maddie who left the apt ........

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1313 on: January 12, 2020, 07:10:33 PM »
For those who believe KM was telling the truth about the open window/raised shutter how can this be explained if MM woke and wandered?

A burglar opened the window & shutter, saw there were children there & changed his mind, or some old shite like that.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1314 on: January 12, 2020, 07:19:00 PM »
So who gets the blame for this ?

Thought they were wiped and Amaral got blamed,back to the drawing board for some.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1315 on: January 12, 2020, 07:24:16 PM »

MWT never gives any explanation for that open window, & he's an expert  *%87
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1316 on: January 12, 2020, 07:32:36 PM »
A burglar opened the window & shutter, saw there were children there & changed his mind, or some old shite like that.

And then MM woke and wandered?

I think even McCanns rejected woke and wandered?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1317 on: January 12, 2020, 07:34:33 PM »
And then MM woke and wandered?

I think even McCanns rejected woke and wandered?

But they're not ex detectives.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1318 on: January 12, 2020, 07:39:14 PM »
And then MM woke and wandered?

I think even McCanns rejected woke and wandered?

Yes, because the child gate & gate were closed.

@22.50

https://youtu.be/WLvnfcl-Zkg?t=1370

If Maddie wandered out of the back, then she closed the door, child gate & gate at the bottom of the stairs behind her, either that or the phantom gate closer happened by along with the burglar.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1319 on: January 12, 2020, 08:16:48 PM »
But they're not ex detectives.

That's true but I do recall KM saying something which started off with: 'We know our Madeleine'... and she simply would not have gone out without her shoes closing the gates behind her. 

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?