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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Brietta on September 23, 2023, 10:57:10 PM
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The Maddie McCann case
"The decision of the Higher Regional Court does not change anything for the investigations in the Maddie case," prosecutor Christian Wolters told BILD. "We had continued the investigations unchanged anyway, because we were of the opinion that the responsibility for all investigations against Christian B. lies in Braunschweig."
These investigations are still ongoing: "They are ongoing. The results of the search operation from Portugal are not yet available." There, a reservoir had been searched in May, where Christian Brückner is said to have camped frequently.
It is theoretically possible, according to Wolters, that the investigation into the Maddie case will be completed and charges will be brought against Brückner before the proceedings in the Hazel B. case are concluded: "Both proceedings run independently of each other and have little in common apart from the accused."
"However, since the Higher Regional Court has asked the Regional Court to continue the current proceedings in the Hazel B. case and others quickly, I think it is very unlikely that the Maddie investigations will be completed before the end of the other proceedings," the prosecutor cautiously hopes for a speedy start at least the first trial against Christian Brückner.
https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news-inland/bild-erklaert-das-prozess-wirrwarr-und-was-ist-mit-maddie-85484622.bild.html
I never could understand why the jurisdiction issue took as long to resolve as it did. That's the law for you! At least now that it appears to have been sorted as far as the five pending sexual abuse cases Brueckner has been charged with are concerned, we can move forward.
Where to now though?
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Get Brueckner On Trial for the Five Outstanding Charges. This will happen before his current conviction comes to an end.
This whole thing has been about waiting. It is unfortunate that it has been left to Germany. Or is it?
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Get Brueckner On Trial for the Five Outstanding Charges. This will happen before his current conviction comes to an end.
This whole thing has been about waiting. It is unfortunate that it has been left to Germany. Or is it?
It is very hard to see how Brueckner is going to wiggle out of the five serious and deviant charges he will now face.
At least no-one can point the finger at the German legal system and claim Brueckner is either a patsy or that he is being treated unfairly. They have bent over backwards on his behalf by taking months out to sort out the jurisdiction problem which he must have known was a lie from the word go.
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It is very hard to see how Brueckner is going to wiggle out of the five serious and deviant charges he will now face.
At least no-one can point the finger at the German legal system and claim Brueckner is either a patsy or that he is being treated unfairly. They have bent over backwards on his behalf by taking months out to sort out the jurisdiction problem which he must have known was a lie from the word go.
I honestly don't know what Fulscher thinks he is up to. Unless he is looking for more clients amongst the depraved. Although I don't actually have a problem with that. Someone has to represent them.
But Juristiction was pretty pathetic. And isn't actually important if someone has committed a crime.
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I honestly don't know what Fulscher thinks he is up to. Unless he is looking for more clients amongst the depraved. Although I don't actually have a problem with that. Someone has to represent them.
But Juristiction was pretty pathetic. And isn't actually important if someone has committed a crime.
Even horrors like Brueckner enjoy the protection of the law which they deny to others. It is what differentiates us from them. Somebody does indeed have to defend them and FF has chosen to do that but as far as jurisdiction goes it is obvious he had no option because the circumstances of the five charges left nothing to the imagination and all he could do was ro play for time.
One can only imagine the cries of shock horror from his support were the prosecution to have tried to use this ploy in reverse. Incredibly this proven woman [ censored word ] actually does nave a following 🙄
Fulchers are a necessity as part of the system and Fulcher wouldn't have been doing his job if he hadn't done as well as he could. In this instance the court belatedly applied the law and reinstated the status quo back to where it was in April.
But I think there will be other procedural ploys thrown in to disrupt the process if the opportunity presents itself. After all we know what the indictments are and walking away from any one of them will be a bit of a miracle.
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I do not expect Brueckner's upcoming Trial to pass without interference from Fulscher on Procedure, although it will never be ultimately about that if the evidence is there to convict Brueckner.
But no one is better able to rule on Procedure than the German Judges. Although I am not entirely sure that I trust them. This Trial could well be a horror story. Fulcher isn't stupid and perhaps knows exactly what he is doing.
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Does anyone know what Evidence The BKA has against Brueckner in the three Rape Charges? There must be some but I appear to have missed it.
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Does anyone know what Evidence The BKA has against Brueckner in the three Rape Charges? There must be some but I appear to have missed it.
The five charges in full:
- At some point between 2000 and 2006: The rape of an unidentified woman aged between 70 and 80 in a holiday home in Portugal
- At some point between 2000 and 2006: The rape of a German-speaking girl believed to have been at least 14 years old in his home in Praia da Luz
- 2004: The rape of a 20-year-old Irish woman after entering her apartment in Praia da Rocha Hazel waived he right to secrecy)
- 2007: The sexual abuse of a 10-year-old German girl on a beach in Salema, Faro
- 2017: The sexual abuse of an 11-year-old Portuguese girl in a playground in Bartolomeu de Messines
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65337797
We have it chapter and verse regarding the 2017 outrage in the playground: we know very little about Diane's ordeal which the BKA really did well to charge and bring to trial without it being associated with Madeleine's case and we are aware of what Hazel was subjected to.
The BKA don't say much about evidence unless inquiring about it and I don't think we will hear much until post trials.
I am expecting a positive identification from the testimony of the young German speaking girl and the policewoman at the playground incident, just need to wait and see.
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Surely The BKA must have something concerning The Rapes? The Evidence has to be shared with Brueckner's Lawyers, does it not?
No, I absolutely don't need to know personally, but Fulscher does. And he hasn't said anything about this.
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Surely The BKA must have something concerning The Rapes? The Evidence has to be shared with Brueckner's Lawyers, does it not?
No, I absolutely don't need to know personally, but Fulscher does. And he hasn't said anything about this.
I think that is a certainty.
Diane's 2005 rape was in PJ files; as was Hazel's 2004 rape. Who knows if the two anonymous women didn't also file a report - or at least one of them? But anyway, the BKA have enough information to lay charges in both cases which suggests to me they have witness statement from one or both women.
I think the BKA are taking great pains to avoid having to tell Fulscher anything until they have to, which is why no charges have been laid regarding crimes against Madeleine.
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I think that is a certainty.
Diane's 2005 rape was in PJ files; as was Hazel's 2004 rape. Who knows if the two anonymous women didn't also file a report - or at least one of them? But anyway, the BKA have enough information to lay charges in both cases which suggests to me they have witness statement from one or both women.
I think the BKA are taking great pains to avoid having to tell Fulscher anything until they have to, which is why no charges have been laid regarding crimes against Madeleine.
I think the BKA are taking great pains to avoid having to tell Fulscher anything until they have to, which is why no charges have been laid regarding crimes against Madeleine.
I think, or should I say certain they are not telling Friedrich Fulscher anything ....as there is nothing to tell regarding Maddie.
The reason no charges have been laid is because....they have no evidence at all that CB is the abductor of Maddie.
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I think the BKA are taking great pains to avoid having to tell Fulscher anything until they have to, which is why no charges have been laid regarding crimes against Madeleine.
I think, or should I say certain they are not telling Friedrich Fulscher anything ....as there is nothing to tell regarding Maddie.
The reason no charges have been laid is because....they have no evidence at all that CB is the abductor of Maddie.
You are in no position to tell us anything about what evidence the BKA investigation may or may not have. You may think you know but you don’t.
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I think the BKA are taking great pains to avoid having to tell Fulscher anything until they have to, which is why no charges have been laid regarding crimes against Madeleine.
I think, or should I say certain they are not telling Friedrich Fulscher anything ....as there is nothing to tell regarding Maddie.
The reason no charges have been laid is because....they have no evidence at all that CB is the abductor of Maddie.
The delaying tactic worked - but only up to a point. Brueckner will be tried for the five postponed crimes of a sexual nature as charged.
But even in this pre trial period there can be absolutely no doubt that Brueckner has a record which most people would shudder at contemplating. Even his lawyer is on record as saying he would not ask him to babysit for his daughter if he had one.
The BKA have told us they have evidence against Brueckner in Madeline's case; if you think otherwise that is your privilege - but I think you should prepare yourself to be disappointed when the sexual predator, paedophile and rapist runs true to form.
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I think the BKA are taking great pains to avoid having to tell Fulscher anything until they have to, which is why no charges have been laid regarding crimes against Madeleine.
I think, or should I say certain they are not telling Friedrich Fulscher anything ....as there is nothing to tell regarding Maddie.
The reason no charges have been laid is because....they have no evidence at all that CB is the abductor of Maddie.
Have patience kizzy. Wolters will be delivering justice for Maddie, just as soon as he's finished with these entirely unrelated offences. This time next year, or maybe the year after, one fine day, Wolters will prove that MWTIACABAS. Not much longer to wait now.
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With a bit of luck and a fair wind Brueckner will get locked up for so long on these five pending charges that Germany will have forever to deal with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
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Jon Clarke of Olive Press seems to think that Hazel B's apartment was located just above a water pipe housing in a side street of the hotel. Easy enough for a climber to gain access and slide open an unlocked window, but I thought her apartment had a balcony where Brueckner left his shoes so as not to leave evidence on the tiled floor inside? This doesn't appear to have any balcony though.
Hazel B's radio interview where she mentions a balcony at around 12:30 in...
https://www.mediafire.com/file/iwo5a4l4ya73i2l/HAZEL_BEHAN_RTE_INTERVIEW_WITH_RYAN_TUBRIDY.mp3/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/iwo5a4l4ya73i2l/HAZEL_BEHAN_RTE_INTERVIEW_WITH_RYAN_TUBRIDY.mp3/file)
If you're a subscriber...
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2023/10/02/new-witness-saw-maddie-mccann-suspect-flee-rape-of-young-irish-expat-victim-felt-she-was-being-watched-before-christian-brueckner-climbed-into-her-home-and-launched-four-hour-assault/ (https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2023/10/02/new-witness-saw-maddie-mccann-suspect-flee-rape-of-young-irish-expat-victim-felt-she-was-being-watched-before-christian-brueckner-climbed-into-her-home-and-launched-four-hour-assault/)
Or attached photo if not...
Typical hotel apartment photos also attached (not necessarily Hazel B's)...
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You are in no position to tell us anything about what evidence the BKA investigation may or may not have. You may think you know but you don’t.
but, I am in a position - sat down at my computer desk.
As for you posting I may think I know but I don't...neither do you know what they may or may not have either.
Its always seemed to me all the BKA have been interested in is getting as much on CB as they can...hence the 5 charges
Regardless of who or what they involve... or method to get it.
IMO, he is never going to be charged as the abductor of Maddie or produce any evidence ...he is.
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Jon Clarke of Olive Press seems to think that Hazel B's apartment was located just above a water pipe housing in a side street of the hotel. Easy enough for a climber to gain access and slide open an unlocked window, but I thought her apartment had a balcony where Brueckner left his shoes so as not to leave evidence on the tiled floor inside? This doesn't appear to have any balcony though.
Having thought through this again, if that was definitely Hazel Behan's apartment, its once open balcony might have been enclosed with new lockable windows by the hotel management after the 2004 rape incident to make it more secure from street access.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11306257/Irish-woman-raped-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-speaks-charged.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11306257/Irish-woman-raped-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-speaks-charged.html)
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Having thought through this again, if that was definitely Hazel Behan's apartment, its once open balcony might have been enclosed with new lockable windows by the hotel management after the 2004 rape incident to make it more secure from street access.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11306257/Irish-woman-raped-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-speaks-charged.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11306257/Irish-woman-raped-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-speaks-charged.html)
Which was precisely the reaction to the home invasions in Praia da Luz. There are now bars across windows and doors in 5a. Just as there now are in the flat above where attempted burglar ingress and exit was through a then unbarred window in the weeks prior to the McCanns arriving at their holiday destination.
The matching apartment to 5a in block 4 is now similarly protected.
Very much a case of bolting the stable door but a recognition of vulnerability to unauthorised access.
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Having thought through this again, if that was definitely Hazel Behan's apartment, its once open balcony might have been enclosed with new lockable windows by the hotel management after the 2004 rape incident to make it more secure from street access.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11306257/Irish-woman-raped-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-speaks-charged.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11306257/Irish-woman-raped-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-speaks-charged.html)
I don't believe that, had there been a second lock available to Ms Behan, that she'd have actually used it. If one lock was too much to ask of her then it's unrealistic to expect her to have managed to secure two.
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I don't believe that, had there been a second lock available to Ms Behan, that she'd have actually used it. If one lock was too much to ask of her then it's unrealistic to expect her to have managed to secure two.
Ms Behan is not charged with any crime and is answerable to no-one.
The person who is answerable to the Court is Brueckner. The person alleged to have raped and tortured her putting her in fear for her life.
Let's wait and see what he has to say for himself, shall we.
Ms Behan survived an horrendous ordeal at the hands of a rapist. She has nothing to explain to the likes of you. Let's wait and see what her alleged rapist has to say for himself shall we? After all he is the one who will be on trial.
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Ms Behan is not charged with any crime and is answerable to no-one.
The person who is answerable to the Court is Brueckner. The person alleged to have raped and tortured her putting her in fear for her life.
Let's wait and see what he has to say for himself, shall we.
Ms Behan survived an horrendous ordeal at the hands of a rapist. She has nothing to explain to the likes of you. Let's wait and see what her alleged rapist has to say for himself shall we? After all he is the one who will be on trial.
She has nothing to explain to the likes of you
Don't you think that is a provoking post.
Why else has it being posted
surprised really you being a senior moderator.
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Ms Behan is not charged with any crime and is answerable to no-one.
The person who is answerable to the Court is Brueckner. The person alleged to have raped and tortured her putting her in fear for her life.
Let's wait and see what he has to say for himself, shall we.
Ms Behan survived an horrendous ordeal at the hands of a rapist. She has nothing to explain to the likes of you. Let's wait and see what her alleged rapist has to say for himself shall we? After all he is the one who will be on trial.
You're quite wrong. Ms Behan will have to answer to Brueckner's defence attorney during cross examination. I'll be interested to hear what she has to say for herself when he asks her why she didn't lock her door.
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The Comment that triggered Brietta's response was provocative. Brietta is simply doing her job as a Moderator.
Please let us have a sense of proportion, shall we.
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Why would Brueckner's Lawyer want to question Hazel Behan about the lock on her door if Brueckner was never there and didn't know anything about it?
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Why would Brueckner's Lawyer want to question Hazel Behan about the lock on her door if Brueckner was never there and didn't know anything about it?
touché
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Since when has “well she didn’t lock her door” been an acceptable defence for a predatory rapist?
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touché
Thank You. There are. some very odd thought process going on here.
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Since when has “well she didn’t lock her door” been an acceptable defence for a predatory rapist?
Especially a Rapist who was being ignored by The PJ.
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Why would Brueckner's Lawyer want to question Hazel Behan about the lock on her door if Brueckner was never there and didn't know anything about it?
You're quite right. Brueckner strongly denies all charges against him, & even some of the offences he's already been convicted of. He hasn't done anything & we must presume him innocent for at least another year, until he stands trial & is convicted, that is. Maybe Brueckner didn't rape Behan after all? For now we must presume that he didn't & just accept the possibility that there may have been another 6 foot masked & tight wearing German rapist, rampaging around the Algarve.
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Thank You. There are. some very odd thought process going on here.
Your not kidding there.........thought the same thing myself.
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Your not kidding there.........thought the same thing myself.
Have you read Spammy's latest contribution?
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Have you read Spammy's latest contribution?
Sorry. It's just that there's nothing to talk about & I've been getting withdrawal symptoms from not victim blaming for a while.
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Now that the procedural games are over for the time being it is time for Bruckner's legal teams to use their resources on preparing to argue a case for him.
They will probably have their work cut out for them regarding any one of the five indictments 😰
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The Child Sex Abuse Charges shouldn't be a problem to Prove. Witnesses and wot not. I wonder how long Brueckner will get for Repeated Offences.
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Sp what is the current state of play? Have the charges been resubmitted to the court and a trial date determined ?
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Sp what is the current state of play? Have the charges been resubmitted to the court and a trial date determined ?
Who knows? But Brueckner has been charged. This means that he can't skip off if his current jail term ends as he will be instantly rearrested and placed On Remand.
One can only guess at what his Lawyer is up to, other than attracting attention to his dubious expertise.
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The Child Sex Abuse Charges shouldn't be a problem to Prove. Witnesses and wot not. I wonder how long Brueckner will get for Repeated Offences.
If he is found guilty of all or any and resulting from the recidivist nature of his criminality he is likely to have a long sentence handed down. In fact I think he may have difficulty ever getting out while he is considered a public danger.
Being arrested on the scene by an off duty police woman has to be classic!
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If he is found guilty of all or any and resulting from the recidivist nature of his criminality he is likely to have a long sentence handed down. In fact I think he may have difficulty ever getting out while he is considered a public danger.
Being arrested on the scene by an off duty police woman has to be classic!
This is my hope, that he will never be released. Especially as my hopes fade for Madeleine.
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A fillip for Hazel Behan, court case set to begin in February 2024...
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2023/10/16/trial-maddie-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner/ (https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2023/10/16/trial-maddie-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner/)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12639085/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-face-trial-separate-sex-offences-soon-February-Maddie-trial.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12639085/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-face-trial-separate-sex-offences-soon-February-Maddie-trial.html)
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As these cases only have CB as a common person, will they be conducted as 5 separate trials ?
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As these cases only have CB as a common person, will they be conducted as 5 separate trials ?
I think they will be tried separately but in sequence at the same trial. Five different crimes. Five different victims of crime. Five different lots of evidence.
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I think they will be tried separately but in sequence at the same trial. Five different crimes. Five different victims of crime. Five different lots of evidence.
And five separate sentences.
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And five separate sentences.
It all adds up to what amounts to a life sentence under German law.
According to the Olive Press, it is all over bar a few more years of shouting.
EXCLUSIVE: TRIAL DATE FOR MADELEINE MCCANN SUSPECT IS FINALLY SET: CHRISTIAN BRUECKNER, 46, FACES LENGTHY JAIL TERM FOR ‘VIOLENT SEXUAL ATTACKS ON WOMEN AND CHILDREN’MADELEINE McCann suspect Christian Brueckner will finally face a number of his alleged victims in court in February.
The Olive Press can reveal a long-awaited trial has been set for the German sex offender at Braunschweig High Court.
He has been charged with five crimes, including three alleged rapes and two sex attacks on children.
The trial – scheduled to run for over a month – could see Brueckner, 46, practically locked up for life due to the severity of some of the alleged attacks.
The Madeleine trial will follow ‘soon afterwards’, police sources in Germany told the Olive Press.
“It’s good news (finally) and we are working on the exact dates now,” a senior detective at the BKA, in Wiesbaden, revealed.
The German sex offender – who was made an official suspect (arguido) over the abduction of toddler Madeleine McCann in Portugal in 2007 – failed to have the court moved to a different jurisdiction last month.
He is currently in prison for seven years for the sadistic rape of an American pensioner in Portugal, in 2005.
Brueckner has been charged with the rape of a young Irish woman on the Algarve in June 2004.
Hazel Behan, then 20, was raped at knifepoint by a blond-haired German, with ‘piercing blue eyes’, who climbed into her apartment and filmed the vicious four-hour attack.
At least two witnesses saw a man resembling Brueckner arrive and leave the first floor apartment in Portimao, at dawn.
One, a hotel worker, claims he saw the German expat and was able to identify him as he had taken off his mask to flee.
“He came forward recently with his evidence,” a German source told the Olive Press. “His testimony is very credible.”
Mother-of-three Behan, 40, told the Olive Press today: “I am delighted our day in court is edging nearer.
“My lawyer in Germany messaged me at the crack of dawn this morning saying the court is starting the case in February. We are just negotiating with the exact dates now between us and Brueckner’s lawyer.
“I have since spoken to the police and we are discussing the logistics of flying out, transfers and where to stay, etc”
She added: “I’m obviously nervous about seeing him again and being cross-examined by his lawyer, but I will just tell the truth and stick to it.”
Brueckner will also be facing two other rapes that he also filmed at the home he rented for seven years, just outside Praia da Luz, where Madeleine went missing.
They include the sexual assault on an, as yet, unknown teenager and an older woman in her sixties.
The videos were found by two of his former acquaintances, Manfred Seyferth and Helge Busching, on a camera they had taken from his home.
He is also facing two other sex offences against children, including the assault of a young German girl on a beach, near Praia da Luz, just a month before Maddie went missing.
The broad daylight attack was witnessed by the girl’s brother and both her parents had a very good look at the assailant who they have identified as Brueckner.
Brueckner is also facing a sexual assault charge for exposing himself to four young children in a playground in Sao Bartolome de Messines, on the Algarve, in 2017.
He was arrested at the time by an off-duty female police officer, who discovered he was wanted via Interpol, in Germany for other crimes.
He has a long list of previous convictions that numbers nearly 20.
As we went to press, we failed to get any official quote from the German judiciary.
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2023/10/16/trial-maddie-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner/
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And five separate sentences.
Five separate verdicts
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Five separate verdicts
The sentences to be consecutive rather than concurrent.
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The sentences to be consecutive rather than concurrent.
In saying sentences, you are assuming 5 convictions
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In saying sentences, you are assuming 5 convictions
However many there might be.
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Two Sentences for the Child Abuse Charges are pretty nearly a foregone conclusion, with witnesses and an arrest. But that which never ceases to amaze me is that all of these incidents occurred in Portugal where No One did anything about it. They must have completely ignored their own Police Officer while this moron continued to rampage around for more than ten years, both before and after Madeleine disappeared. Just who was protecting this repeated Sex Offender? Someone must have been.
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Two Sentences for the Child Abuse Charges are pretty nearly a foregone conclusion, with witnesses and an arrest. But that which never ceases to amaze me is that all of these incidents occurred in Portugal where No One did anything about it. They must have completely ignored their own Police Officer while this moron continued to rampage around for more than ten years, both before and after Madeleine disappeared. Just who was protecting this repeated Sex Offender? Someone must have been.
Perhaps the generosity of German legal firms knows no bounds or someone is spending a lot of money picking up Brueckner's legal costs?
Why would anyone do this for a down and out picked up under an European Arrest Warrant from Italy?
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Perhaps the generosity of German legal firms knows no bounds or someone is spending a lot of money picking up Brueckner's legal costs?
Why would anyone do this for a down and out picked up under an European Arrest Warrant from Italy?
Probably down to Legal Aid. And everyone is entitled to a Defence. I can hardly wait to see what that Defence will be.
This could all hinge on Concurrent or Consecutive. I don't know enough about German Law to say. Concurrent could send Brueckner down for Ten Years, while Consecutive could amount to the Rest of His Life. Like about thirty odd years. If that is even long enough.
Falscher will think that he has got something up his sleeve. And more power to him if this is so. It is now just a matter of German Law to me.
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Two Sentences for the Child Abuse Charges are pretty nearly a foregone conclusion, with witnesses and an arrest. But that which never ceases to amaze me is that all of these incidents occurred in Portugal where No One did anything about it. They must have completely ignored their own Police Officer while this moron continued to rampage around for more than ten years, both before and after Madeleine disappeared. Just who was protecting this repeated Sex Offender? Someone must have been.
An alternative view could be that that sort of offence wasn't considered to be a priority by the Portuguese legal system.
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An alternative view could be that that sort of offence wasn't considered to be a priority by the Portuguese legal system.
yes, a macho misogynistic law enforcement culture that doesn’t put much value on the well-being of women and children, sounds about right.
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Perhaps the generosity of German legal firms knows no bounds or someone is spending a lot of money picking up Brueckner's legal costs?
Why would anyone do this for a down and out picked up under an European Arrest Warrant from Italy?
Perhaps FF knew that by attaching himself to CB’s case he would gain worldwide fame?
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An alternative view could be that that sort of offence wasn't considered to be a priority by the Portuguese legal system.
Carry on Raping and Sexually Abusing Children. Who cares.
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There seems to be quite a lively discussion going on Websleuths. But they are a trifle more strict than we are.
Is this where you all are?
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There seems to be quite a lively discussion going on Websleuths. But they are a trifle more strict than we are.
Is this where you all are?
They just seem to be saying the same thing over and over again on Websleuths atm. Really dull.If anyone says anything remotely interesting some idiot reports it and it gets deleted.
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They just seem to be saying the same thing over and over again on Websleuths atm. Really dull.If anyone says anything remotely interesting some idiot reports it and it gets deleted.
But there are signs that some ideas are coming from members of UK Justice Forum. And at least there is a discussion.
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I think things are just in a dormant period. There's little new to say until CB's trial starts and even then it's not clear how reliably it'll be reported and how much will be just media hype.
At least the verdicts will be accurate.
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I think things are just in a dormant period. There's little new to say until CB's trial starts and even then it's not clear how reliably it'll be reported and how much will be just media hype.
At least the verdicts will be accurate.
I'm confident that justice will prevail. The correct verdicts reached. Brueckner will be found not guilty on all counts.
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Another No Brainer from Spammy.