Author Topic: Brexit has well and truly begun!  (Read 281032 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Sunny

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #180 on: July 09, 2018, 09:13:24 PM »
Britain Exit?   I have to say the politicians of all colours are making a complete hash of it. It is hard to know what any of them stand for anymore - except power for themselves.
Members are reminded that cites must be provided in accordance with the forum rules. On several occasions recently cites have been requested but never provided. Asking for a cite is not goading but compliance.

From this moment onward, posts making significant claims which are not backed up by a cite will be removed.

Moderators and Editors take note!

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #181 on: September 09, 2018, 08:47:04 PM »
Still running around like headless chickens as far as I can see.

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #182 on: October 19, 2018, 08:06:19 AM »
An analogy of Brexit involving eggs, cake and omelette. lol

https://garybainbridge.com/2018/10/10/column-october-11-2018/

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #183 on: October 19, 2018, 03:01:29 PM »
Still running around like headless chickens as far as I can see.

Afraid to tell the truth more like.

Wrt to the leave campaigners I would paraphrase Stokely Carmichael .... "The punks were lying, period".
Unfortunately my generation, which should not have been allowed to vote on the topic anyway, screwed it up by swallowing a load of jingoistic cobblers hook line sinker and half way down the bleedin' rod.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #184 on: October 27, 2018, 05:25:12 AM »
Afraid to tell the truth more like.

Wrt to the leave campaigners I would paraphrase Stokely Carmichael .... "The punks were lying, period".
Unfortunately my generation, which should not have been allowed to vote on the topic anyway, screwed it up by swallowing a load of jingoistic cobblers hook line sinker and half way down the bleedin' rod.

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1053662098574716929

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #185 on: November 10, 2018, 07:02:11 PM »

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #186 on: November 10, 2018, 07:08:53 PM »
"In these circumstances, we must ask what we are achieving. William Hague once described the goal of Conservative policy as being "in Europe, but not run by Europe". The government's proposals will see us out of Europe, yet run by Europe, bound by rules which we will have lost a hand in shaping." - Jo Johnson.

I've never understood how leaving the EU was supposed to allow the UK to "get back control". Total mystery to me.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #187 on: November 18, 2018, 02:14:16 PM »
Mystery to me too.  I do suspect that others are cottoning on though.  In the unlikely event of someone having the balls to have a ‘let’s chevk the current mood of the meeting’ poll I think there may be a few disappointed Brexit enthusiasts. 

Some will be incandescent with rage (5%) some will think ‘quoi?’ And get on with life (30%) and the rest will breathe a huge collective sigh of relief. 

Final though have you noticed the more mouthy say ‘if we don’t get our Brexit, there will be riots’.  But never ‘I will riot’. 

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #188 on: November 22, 2018, 09:43:32 AM »
Mystery to me too.  I do suspect that others are cottoning on though.  In the unlikely event of someone having the balls to have a ‘let’s chevk the current mood of the meeting’ poll I think there may be a few disappointed Brexit enthusiasts. 

Some will be incandescent with rage (5%) some will think ‘quoi?’ And get on with life (30%) and the rest will breathe a huge collective sigh of relief. 

Final though have you noticed the more mouthy say ‘if we don’t get our Brexit, there will be riots’.  But never ‘I will riot’.

What irritates me is when people (including politicians and even journalists who should know better) insist that the majority of UK citizens voted to leave.

No, they didn't.

What IS true is that slightly more voted to leave than those who voted to remain: 51.9% (17,410,742 ) leave v 48.9% (16,141,241) remain.

But that's not the same thing.

The turnout was 72.2% out of an electorate of 46,501,241. To simply that for my tiny calculator: 17.4 / 46.5 = 37.4%.

I.e. only 37.4% of registered voters voted for Leave. Hardly a majority of UK citizens (and if the expats who weren't even allowed to vote could have done, I find it likely that the true percentage would have been even lower).

https://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results


« Last Edit: November 22, 2018, 09:49:09 AM by Carana »

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #189 on: November 22, 2018, 03:10:09 PM »
Quiz time.

Who said (and try not to cheat):

1. “This is a very sad place to be,” X told Sky News. “But unfortunately, the future of the country and of our relationship with Europe is at stake. This deal gives us no voice, no votes, no MEPs, no commissioner.”

I've got lots of these...


























Answer:

"Arch-Brexiteer" Nadine Dorries
https://twitter.com/PropertySpot/status/1063790996859830272



« Last Edit: November 22, 2018, 04:07:45 PM by Carana »

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #190 on: November 22, 2018, 03:32:43 PM »
Quiz question no 2

Which brain-child said:

“I hadn’t quite understood the full extent of this, but if you look at the UK and look at how we trade in goods, we are particularly reliant on the Dover-Calais crossing."
















Answer: Dominic Raab, the latest former Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5m7_JrLNDY

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #191 on: November 22, 2018, 04:01:01 PM »
No. 3

Which MP said this:

'I do have the right to go over to Ireland and I believe that I can ask for a passport. Can't I?'















Answer: Andrew Bridgen, member of the ERG "think tank".

https://www.irishpost.com/news/everyone-in-england-is-entitled-to-an-irish-passport-british-mp-displays-staggering-ignorance-over-ireland-in-radio-interview-160840


Reality is just a little more restricted than that:

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/

« Last Edit: November 22, 2018, 04:58:57 PM by Carana »

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #192 on: November 22, 2018, 05:25:26 PM »
No 4 (?)

Who said:

"Leaving the European Union is the most fantastic opportunity for the United Kingdom. It means we can have the opportunity of setting lower tariffs, cheaper food, clothing and footwear, helping the least well-off in our society... "















Jacob Rees-Mogg (another ERG member).

Clip on here: https://news.sky.com/story/french-minister-says-brexit-comes-at-exorbitant-price-as-he-calls-uk-mps-liars-11555807


Question: How can an isolated country get better trade deals than the combined bargaining power of the largest trading bloc?

Lower tariffs... with whom, exactly?

Trade between EU members? Nope.

Better deals that the EU trade agreements already concluded or in the process of ratification with non-EU countries?

http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2012/june/tradoc_149622.pdf



Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #193 on: November 22, 2018, 07:09:37 PM »
Someone on Twitter seems to be compiling the "famous last quotes" much faster.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1065648448362434560.html

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #194 on: November 22, 2018, 10:29:56 PM »
"In these circumstances, we must ask what we are achieving. William Hague once described the goal of Conservative policy as being "in Europe, but not run by Europe". The government's proposals will see us out of Europe, yet run by Europe, bound by rules which we will have lost a hand in shaping." - Jo Johnson.

I've never understood how leaving the EU was supposed to allow the UK to "get back control". Total mystery to me.

On March 28th 2019 if you wish to flog a hairdryer into the EU it will have to comply with the EU Electrogmatic Compatibility Directive. On April 1st 2019  if you wish to flog the same hairdryer into the EU it will have to comply with the EU Electrogmatic Compatibility Directive,so who is controlling what?........ *%87
On March 28th 2019 the UK observes EU laws. On April 1st 2019 the UK will observe EU laws because we don't have any of our own [see Repeal Act 2017] so who is controlling what?

Chris Grayling reckons we can be self sufficient in food by digging up golf courses and growing veg on them.
Some one should tell him GB has not been self sufficient in food since pre Napoleonic wars.

Our politicians clearly do not know whether they are punched, bored, drilled or countersunk in a certain area.

ETA."for Electrogmatic read Electromagnetic"
But I do like the idea of Trogmatic !
« Last Edit: November 23, 2018, 02:29:28 PM by Alice Purjorick »
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey