The Defence Will State Their Case

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Viper


What does this actually mean... It's a broad brush...
Does that mean they can use it in CCTV ?? What way can they use these peoples images ???

http://www.viper.police.uk/resources/PrivacyNotice_V1_1_roomprocess.pdf

VIPER stands for "Video Identification Parade by Electronic Recording". So therefore the information or statement is already recorded so why are you asking about CCTV?

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This from Sky News...

Dr Tanya Nickson, who analysed blood found on a wall beside Miss Yeates, said she believed an attempt had been made to deposit her body in a quarry.

Apart from the fact that I had no idea that she was a DR...  If Tanja Nickson is saying that the blood was on the wall and was where someone had attempted to deposit Joanna Yeates into The Quarry... is she actually agreeing that Joanna Yeates was over the wall and the wall area she is talking of is the wall above the tunnel???

It's just as likely...

Edit... Seeing as over the wall where they say Joanna Yeates was located , isn't into the quarry, but the land  above the tunnel of the quarry....

http://news.sky.com/story/killer-confessed-to-chaplain-10484853

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Again on re-reading

Ann Reddrop, head of the CPS South West Complex Casework Unit, added: ”The CPS has been asked for initial guidance about other material.”

The unnamed officer said he and colleagues wanted to clear up speculation surrounding ”other matters” in the Tabak inquiry which were alluded to by the prosecution in his trial.

They included the alleged Category Four images.

He also said he believed police could have better investigated Tabak’s use of prostitutes when he was working away in Los Angeles – less than one month before he murdered Jo.

The source said: ”A number of escort girls were potentially identified, from analysis of pay-as-you-go mobile phones.

”This was never progressed as it should have been. One could have said he was suggesting strangulation to them. It wasn’t progressed.”

In a press conference following Tabak’s conviction Detective Inspector Joe Goff, one of the senior detectives in the case, was asked if police visited sex workers Tabak had used.

He said: ”We never got as far as tracking any of the escorts down.

”What we had in the USA and other times he was working away was that he would be seeking to make contact with escort girls.

It's this little nugget....

The source said: ”A number of escort girls were potentially identified, from analysis of pay-as-you-go mobile phones.

Who's Pay As You Go Mobile Phones???? If they are trying to say that Dr Vincent Tabak had more than one phone and that these phones were 'payandgo'... were these phones brought  to court?? What other information was on these Payandgo Mobile phones???

Are the texts that Tanja recieved from a Payandgo Phone??  Why would Dr Vincent Tabak need a Payandgo mobile phone??? 

”This was never progressed as it should have been. One could have said he was suggesting strangulation to them. It wasn’t progressed.”

I'm would be surprised if Dr Vincent Tabak had a "Payandgo phone".. I would have thought being the professional that he is, he would have had a contract phone and more than likely a works phone...  And there would be NO Point in him having a payandgo Phone in America.. If he didn't want it to show up on his phone bill, he could have just used the hotel phone...

What 'Evidence" did the Police have against Dr Vincent Tabak , from these "Payandgo Mobile Phones ???  Where are these "payandgo' mobile phones ???

Now if there were messages on these 'payandgo mobile Phones' that Dr Vincent Tabak was suggesting strangulation then surely that would have been evidence that he had a propensity for such behaviour..

Why were these Payasyougo mobile phones not brought to trial?? And how do we now know where the information of said texts that Dr Vincent Tabak made came from one phone ???

Is there any other evidence on these "payandgo" mobile phones that might support a different timeline for Dr Vincent Tabak??

If the Police/ source are suggesting that Dr Vincent Tabak used payandgo mobile phones as in plural, what other evidence is missing from the time that Tanja went to her party?? If Dr Vincent Tabak is in to prostitutes as the Police have suggested .. Did Dr Vincent Tabak spend time on one of these "Payasyougo" mobile phones on Friday 17th December 2010, Did Dr Vincent Tabak spend time talking to these ladies between 9:00pm and 12;00pm on that Friday night....

I am not convinced about these mobile phones... But if these sources that have been used throughout this case are  telling the world that there were many  payandgo mobile phones that Dr Vincent Tabak used, then their analysis should have been checked by the Defence...

Where these "payandgo phone' provided by Buro Happold?? Did Anyone at Buro Happold use these phones...  Or is it just a figment of someones imagination, making us question even more things that were said about Dr Vincent Tabak??





http://stories.swns.com/news/indecent-child-images-found-on-vincent-tabaks-computer-21419/

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Flat 1 

The Flat that has always concerned me, is Flat 1... The layout that has something not quite right....

I keep looking at Joanna Yeates bedroom, and it doesn't appear right....

The video we see of the Flat tour takes us around the flat into each room... The living Room which is crammed full of furniture, making it difficult to quite work out how wide it is...

But the bedroom width is all wrong...  We just get a quick look around this bedroom... But know I think I have seen it...

There is a large piece of bedroom missing ...(imo), you may think I am incorrect, but i don't think so...

On the right hand side as we go into that bedroom, we see the fireplace opening and a white wardrobe, there is a black tall chest of draws in the fireplace opening....

The wall is out.... Either side of the fireplace opening, there should be an alcove... The width of that room appears to have been shortened... The Alcove is narrow....

The curtains being shut are what tricks our eye... We forget that this room has a single window and not a double window like the front room has, therefore to the right of the window as we look into the room that wall next to the window should be a lot longer....

But it just fits the wardrobe in sideways, the wardrobe should fit there flat against the wall or into the missing alcove....

When we look at the back of the flats we can see how wide it is from Joanna Yeates bedroom window to the edge of the house, but inside that area is missing... And i think it is quite possible that area is where the stairs are...

When you come into the hallway just above the electric fuse box there is a solid looking lintel.. It has been bugging me.. But I believe it is a step....

Meaning that the stairway is in the bedroom.....


I'll attach images to show the discrepencies....

Image 1.. Circled the step above the fuse box

Image 2... The narrow width of wall next to the right side of the window of Joanna Yeates bedroom (looking head on)

Image 3... outside Joanna Yeates bedroom clearly showing a longer wall....

Image 4... The for rent image of the bedroom

The long window above Joanna Yeates bedroom window I believe is the landing area for the stairs that must come from Joanna Yeates Flat.....

There has (imo) been a lot of staging of that property....

So I'll go back to the rent advert... That has to have been taken after Joanna Yeates went Missing...(IMO).. because that too has virtually no wall at the right side of that bedroom window as you look into the room....

There has got to be a staircase that they are hiding (IMO)... The wall should be longer!!!!!

This throws up many questions..  the blind did work we can see it in the for rent advert working... The furniture in the advert looks more fitting for that Flat... was that Joanna Yeates furniture??? We have to remember that Greg Reardon also owned that furniture....

So I believe that there must have been a staircase in that flat and that is probably where they stored the likes of ironing boards and the hoover under neath it....

Stairways in old Victorian houses are narrow, so it is very possible that what I am saying is correct, and that the area we see in Joanna yeates bedroom being the wall that should be the outside wall.... Is in fact a partition that has been put up....(IMO)

Remember they collect there Mail from the main house.. There has to be a way to get to it from inside.. Because I do not believe that they use The main Door to get there mail.... (IMO)

Edit... Another problem I have noticed...  When we are in the Hallway looking at the bathroom door head on, we see that it is on the same level as the edge of Joanna Yeates bedroom door.... Yet when we look into the bedroom there is only just enough room for the door to open...  There is not a lot of space behind the bedroom door.... There should be... Because on the other side of that wall there is a Full sized bath in the bathroom... Where is that amount of room behind Joanna Yeates bedroom door????

The amount of Room behind that Bedroom Door is the width of the wall on the left hand side of the bedroom window....And it should be at least the length of a Bath.... (IMO)..

Double edit.. So we have a Window width at least Missing from that bedroom.. Which roughly is the size of a narrow victorian stair case....(IMO)...


http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-27696067.html
http://www.gettyimages.ca/license/656480836

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Again I have attached an image...

To The right of the bookcase is where I believe that the entrance to the staircase is to the main house..... You can see a faint outline of what looks like an opening ,I have attached images of the opening marked out and one without it being marked...

All the corners in the Flat are smooth corners, apart from that one, it waves slightly part way down.....

Is this why we have different coloured underlay by the door... because they added it??? Joanna Yeates bedroom had no need for brand new underlay without a carpet....(IMO)...

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Going back to the image of Greg and Emma in The Hallway at Halloween,... looking in the reflection in the mirror there is a dark area, which you can see just to the right of greg's neck...  that really should be a light area because it is supposed to be the other yellow wall...

But something else I noticed Missing from this picture.. is the coat stand.... It should be where Greg and Emma are stood....

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I have attached an images of Joanna Yeates bedroom, One which comes from the video tour of the bedroom and one which are a still image of the bedroom... The third image is the two images side by side which I have circled differences...

Behind the bedroom door in the video image is the small black chest of draws and what looks like to me a fire surround, but in the still image there is a massive wardrobe next to the small black chest of draws which are next to the fire place.....

Where did the big wardrobe appear from??? Why would you put a Big Wardrobe in front of a Fire surround??

Also if you can fit another double wardrobe into that space, why isn't there the same amount of space behind the bedroom door??

Image 4... Is at Greg's side of the bed... There's only enough room for a small chest of draws and a laundry basket... Yet on the opposite side of the room... At the edge of  the bed theres is enough room for a small chest of draws and a Big Double wardrobe... ??? How comes????


What is going on in that room ?????

If you look at image 1... there enough depth to fit a large chest of draws into the fire place... Yet the wardrobe to the lefthand side of the fireplace, juts right out... Wardrobes are not that deep it should be alot further back into the Alcove...!!....(IMO)....


Edit... Image 5 I have circled what looks like a fire surround and the edge of the wardrobe next to it.....

Double Edit... In image 2 The alcove where the mirrored wardrobe is, is not that deep.... you can clearly see.... It should be deeper! (IMO)...

Sorry to keep Editing.... Image 6 shows the back of the wardrobe virtually level with the skirting board of the chimney breast...

http://www.gettyimages.ca/license/656480836

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I don't think that there is even a fire place in that bedroom of Joanna Yeates I may be wrong....... And believe that the what looks like the Fire surround behind the door between the little black chest of draws and behind the white wardrobe, is also a faux fire surround.... (IMO)

I'm going to use the advert for CJ's Flat to demonstrate....

Image 1... The Living Room

Image 2... The Bedroom

Image 3 The floor plan...

The living room has a Fire place on the right side  of that room..... The bedroom has a Fireplace on the left hand side of the room...

The Floor plan shows that the rooms go front to back.. straight through the building... If those rooms are behind each other  why is the fireplace on different walls in the same side of the building... The Chimneys are either on the left or the right side of the building.......  They should be on the same side of the building if the floor plan has anything to go by...

So one must be a faux Fire place.... (IMO)... (using the images for clarification..)

Image 4... is an aerial view of 44, Canygne Road showing where the chimney stacks are placed ....

Image 5... I have marked where I believe the stairway is possibly situated, as CJ was supposed to live directly above Joanna Yeates that area that is void of anything, is quite possibly the stairway...




http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-32871173.html

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On the outside of the building on the left hand side, running down from the chimney stack at the back of the building appears to be the chimney stack support.. There is a lintel running along the bottom, which doesn't go to the Basement Floor... I believe this is where the Fire places start in the back of the building.. And No fire places are in the basement at the back....

On image two you can clearly see the support for the Chimney Breast at the back of the building... It doesnt go to the basement...!!! (IMO)...

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I cannot see the support for the chimney stack on the other side of the building where Joanna yeates bedroom is, even though there is a chimney stack on the roof in that area....

Image attached ...

But there are bands of stone that encircle the building on each floor level there,s a double band of stone just  above the tall window with the orange curtain....

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Question.... How big are the paving slabs outside Joanna Yeates house???

They look bigger than a foot wide each to me, but what do other people think??

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According to a drawing that someone put up on Webslueths... The House at Canygne Road is  42 foot wide at the front , by 50 ft wide at the back and 50 ft long down the side... The extra bit to the left hand side of the building makes the building square about half way down....

The photobucket page isn't working now , but I screenshot the image last week..

The guy who's image it is, has got the interior set out... Now I don't know if the interior was that way at anytime... Or The guy has designed the interior...

50 ft down the side of Joanna Yeates Flat is a lot of footage .... I've tried to fit everything into the space, but it's not correct....

Is the length of the building longer than the width at the front of the building??  Because I believe it is...  Then you would have 50ft of wallage of Joanna Yeates Flat exterior Wall... There seems less inside...

The bedroom is around 12ft long by the looks of it... The Hallway around 6 ft wide.... So the front room would need to be over 30ft long with the kitchen incorporated... And that room doesn't look that long...









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Odd things I notice ,with the work that has been done in that flat 1

The Mirror in The Bathroom... It is not central... There is a gap to the left of the mirror and on the right side the mirror is attached to the tiles, when there is enough room on the wall to house this mirror..

Why would you install a mirror in that way???

I also noticed what looked like a coat peg rack where the Bath Brush is hung, I have attached an image and circled the areas..

The Coat rack with the brush attached?? Just made me think about when the jury saw coats on coat pegs and thats exactly what is in the bathroom...

I don't understand the shower screen.. it encases nearly all of the bath, but it has been installed on the wrong side of the bath (IMO)... You would want it to start near the taps, but it starts near the bottom of the bath... There's a gap at the bottom of the shower screen and the wall..

What is the point in tiling that part of the wall if the shower screen goes across the edge of the bath to the wall??

You can see this in image 2... There are shampoo etc at the bottom of the bath, yet you wouldn't be able to reach them as the screen is in the way.... Something isn't right with that bathroom...

Why would you install a shower screen back to front???


Down the edge of the bath next to the mirror is a long piece of metal?? or something... I thought that was for the shower screen.. normally you would have a hinge similar to that for a shower door... why would you install a glass cubical???


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I was looking at the files in Joanna Yeates front room... The green file on the desk appears to have been written in 2 people handwriting...

Now I know I am not a handwritting expert, but when the capital 'T" looks markidly different on this file then anyone would see the difference..

"Method's of Enquiry and Post Grad" are written in one handwriting..

"Jo Yeates Landscape Architect are written in another handwriting...  On this the letter 'T" is shaped more like a number 7... where as the other handwriting the "T" looks clearly a letter "T"

The other notable thing is the letter "H" in Architecture... it looks like a backwards "N"... that is some distinctive Handwriting...

The other difference is one set of handwriting is spaced out, where as the other handwriting is more compact... That has got to be two different people writing that.... (IMO)..

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Has someone added writing to the File ??  Is it really Joanna yeates file ?? I don't know any more... so much doesn't add up....