Oh come on, when someone talks none sense suggesting that Tabak and Joanna or Tabak and CJ could be related or Tabak could have been in Holland on the day of the murders, that is trolling and taking the mick. He’s nothing but disruptive and on purpose causing other posters to follow suit spoiling debate.
I wasn't trying to take the mick... The whole point of this particular thread, was to try and identify, any avenues the Police could have looked at or not.... And eliminate various lines of inquiry....
Or Dr Vincent Tabak's defence team, which apparently he had 2 of... might have investigated a little further other avenues... But the Platinum service isn't available for all apparently...
With the extremely quick arrest of dr Vincent Tabak whilst CJ was still on Police bail, I was trying to determine what methods were used to cross reference any evidence or interview the wide range of people that were either close to Joanna Yeates or connected to her in some way....
That apparently doesn't appear to have taken place...
THAT'S my whole point, mrswah, and possibly it's missed you. You state "From what I know............." but it remains that you don't know because it would be extremely difficult for you to know. Having "no illusions about the type of people who MIGHT infiltrate forums" may not necessarily make it possible to recognize one of their number.....................which is why so many elude capture.
Whom you may know about whom infiltrates various forums I have no idea... I m not associated with anyone.. Nor am I a fan admirer of anyone..
Before the old adage of I am a fan of Dr Vincent Tabak comes back my way, I am not a fan in the true sense of the word.... as some keep saying, as I know nothing about him, other than what has been written... Rather as I have explained countless times.. I AM A concerned citizen who felt that this case and trial never sat right with me.... It just doesn't add up... And we can argue that point until the cows come home , but I will not change my stance.... And as to whether I feel it is all made up or not ..I still do not know... But it is bonkers....
But if a man named Dr Vincent Tabak is in prison at this moment in time for this crime, I hope that in some way, someone will look at this case.... No man nor woman, should be in prison when there is doubt, no man nor women, should feel that not one person in this world might take an interest and maybe give a little hope....
I have never felt this strongly about anything before , where I have actually taken to the internet to raise the questions I have raised... Some people describe it as trolling...
My God.... So if you believe in something, no matter what, and have a different opinion to others and basically stand out like a sore thumb, because everyone else has a different stance, then you are a troll..
If you take the time to try to cross reference every bit of information that you believe is valid an may have relevance, you can be described as a troll...
You may see me as a troll... but that's your issue and not mine...
I have not been disrespectful... And certainly aspects I have had to bring up, because, that is the nature, of trying to understand everything... CJ... I have been backwards and forwards with him... I have not pointed any fingers at CJ... rather I have tried to understand his role, and that is based on what was stated at The Leveson and what he himself has stated in interviews..
I cannot point fingers... As I do not know in which direction they should go.... This case is odd..
It is...
And I may go away from this wondering what made me spend so much time, trying to understand what happened back in 2010/2011...
I do not know what this forum is about... I have never really understood it... But when i came across it,...It happened to be the only forum at the time discussing this case...
And in my experience, in this case everyone appears to behave in a strange way... which I do not understand either...
My experience of forums is limited... Until I came across the facebook forum of Joanna Yeates, the only forum I had ever been involved with realistically was a forum on a smartphone called handspring/palm/treo.. This I have explained.. many times...
To be actively involved in any forum as much as I have with this forum is a first for me... It is new territory...
And I continue to post... why..??
Simple really, everyone appears to be trying their best to dissuade me.. why I have no idea... This case is not BLACK OR WHITE... It's complex, you only have to ask Ann Reddrop about that..
So why would she settle on such a weak case?? Why would she continue in her endeavours to take a Dutch national to court on ...
??? What Evidence???
Everyone is strangely quite about this case... I have no idea why... I have mrswah, saying Dr Vincent Tabak is in prison.. There has been freedom of information requests... People whom I really do not know who they are have been looking at this case and investigated various aspects of it over the years.. that apparently being leonora... And I only know him by his reputation to do with this case... otherwise, he might as well be a pig in a poke... Don't know the guy....
Sometimes I think I have made a mistake, coming this far, with this case.... But that is based on my own misgivings as to how my intentions may be perceived..
What actually is wrong, with a genuine citizen, voicing their concerns about the imprisonment of anyone?? If doubts are there, and questions can still be asked, then what I have done is simply explore these avenues...
Great post April, mrswah suggests ignoring offensive posts, I’m sorry I was brought up to defend the bullied and trolled, especially when they cannot defend themselves. It’s people like Billy that gets the forum a bad name, this forum was born out of defending a family that couldn’t defend itself and ludicrous posts by Tesko.
Tesko... No idea whom you are referring too... Never heard of ... It reminds me when certain posters whom started calling me Andrew Ashman, whom I had never heard of before either....
And whilst we are at it.... MWT... not a fan of his either.... He a surprise in a box... I believe I was slightly misinformed, by way of general publicity, that he had capabilities, that never came to fruition.... And do not need to elaborate on that...
I am your... as random as they come, stupid individual, that thought people cared..... I hoped I was helping, I hoped someone may take notice...
But....... The more i have looked at what is available, the more i question the whole, case... Many many times I have been in two minds as to whether it is real or not, and that is not intended as disrespect to anyone..,
But I know the is how you will all see it..
But the Platinum service isn't available for all apparently... When Ian Kelcey made that comment about platinum service, I was not really ,shocked, but at the same time I was...
It was a dawning and realisation that the odds were stacked firmly against any individual, whom did not have the where with all , to attack??? investigate??? defend themselves at any time and any situation in our criminal justice system if the funds we not free flowing...
I sometimes think about the amount of time I have spent writing here, without the real PAPERS... without the FILES or the 1300 PAGE DOCUMENT in front of me , being able to question every detail of those papers/files and documents...
But all I can say... Is what I believe I have brought to the table based on some peoples TV statements, and some peoples, Leveson inquiry statements alone.. And of course other avenues I have looked at, then how can any person facing the judiciary be able to mount a defence, without the time or resources to do so???... When it has taken me on my own , a long time to question what we apparently already know...
I am not a troll.... Even though several people say I am... I have nothing against trolls, in which I literally mean, those cute, little dolls from the 60's and 70's..
I have stuck my neck out so far with this i resemble a giraffe..... I feel uncomfortable sometimes, about it , but remember , why i started it...
So next time you hear hooves... don't think horses, think giraffes!
Edit... As for the length of my post... Either suck it up or don't waste your time reading them... It isn't compulsory... No disrespect intended...