Other High Profile Cases and Persons of Interest > The murder of landscape architect Joanna Yeates in Bristol in December 2010.

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The CCTV footage in this case has been sparse quite honestly (IMO)

We have been given contradictory statements in regards to this CCTV footage from the trial and media reports..

One of the Massive issues with the CCTV footage is the absence of timestamps and the absence of dates on some of them... Quite frankly I do not understand why???

Why if you have in your possession images of a Killer driving around would these not be fully Dated and Timestamped??

Why in most cases including the "Becky Watts Case" is all of the video presented in court Date and Time Stamped..
But with this case NOT...


--- Quote ---21 February, Asda - Matthews and Hoare go to Asda in Bedminster and buy black bags, rubble sacks, rubber gloves, bleach and three rolls of cling film
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Why in The Becky Watts Case can you see the Timestamp moving in the Bottom left hand corner, when they visit Asda in Bedminster... Yet when Dr Vincent Tabak goes to Asda in Bedminster the timestamp is mysteriously missing????



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmZTSzme4ro
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34812317

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Leonora:
I don't disagree with your exposure of the degree of tampering with the CCTV video clips at all, Nine. However, these iffy clips played no part in Vincent Tabak's conviction whatsoever, as he himself told the court that he strangled Joanna and dumped her body. The CCTV was mere window dressing.

Apart from VT'is own testimony, the only evidence needed was Greg Reardon's testimony to the strange movements in the flat, the iffy DNA evidence, and the pathologist's account of Joanna's injuries and his opinion about whether she could have been strangled inside 20 seconds or not. Nor were more than two days needed for the trial. All the rest was for show.

Well done for posting the CCTV video clip of Becky Watts's horrible killers buying their DIY body disposal kit, to show us how a "real" murder conviction is carried out! I am sure that this clip played its part in proving to the CPS and to the jury that these dreadful people did what they did to the man's step-sister - whom, of course, he knew well and lusted after. It was SO different from the Jo Yeates case, where the police wilfully ignored evidence that she was killed by someone she knew well, and focused on no fewer than two very improbable men whom she did not know well.

The evidence of CCTV-tampering that bugs you so much proves a conspiracy, and one that is more far-reaching than just the police's public manipulation of a suspect. So the iffy CCTV captions are all very valuable to us sceptics! IMO, however, it is the removal of the chroma component from the Ram pub video clips that is the biggest giveaway of all. It HAD to be done to prevent us from spotting that the blouse Joanna wore was quite a different top from the one found on her body. This suggests that she was killed much later than the court was told.

mrswah:
The absence of timestamps from the CCTV in ASDA has always been something that made me very suspicious.

CCTV usually shows a timestamp as well as a datestamp, as far as I know.

Why didn't the police or the lawyers question this?  (I have my own ideas as to why, of course).

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I'm going to post this here:

I was waiting on a new topic to be approved... seems to be taking a while...

I'll post this hope it's ok.....

The CCTV bothers me.... So many without timestamps... And the only one with a timestamp is the one with Joanna Yeates at Tesco's..

I keep looking at it.... it's wrong ... The frame rate is extremely slow... looks like 5 frames per second... Infact I'm sure it says it on the video...


Video Information

(1):  Self Serve

(2):  17-12-2010  FRI

(3):  20:36:56

(4):  0 .5P

(5):  PLAY


The Information on the Video  is wrong.... It's bugged me for ages...  It look legit... But nobody has really looked at it...
Number (1):   Why does it says Self Serve in such big letters??? The writing is taking away from the video!
Number (4):       0.5P... I think thats the frame rate..

 Number (5):   PLAY... where does it ever say the Word Play on any CCTV video Footage ?? It doesn't!

Which means the word PLAY shouldn't be there..........(IMO)

This Video as far as I can tell is NOT the Original Footage from the Tesco's CCTV....

I have 4 images.....  The First one I've circled the Info..
                              The Second one is unchanged

Now the Third one is an image taken from the Internet of a TimeStamp on a Tesco's CCTV..

The information on that is Completely different... It has The Camera Number which is missing from the Joanna Yeates Tesco one... Its' smaller writing and it's on the top edge of the video.....


The writing on a CCTV camera Video is never as Large as it is on the Joanna Yeates one...that I am aware of..

This Video cannot be the original footage from Tesco (IMO)... So how do we Know that the Time Stamp is correct ??

We don't.... how is this video evidence that Joanna Yeates was in Tesco's at around 20:40pm on Friday 17th December 2010?? 
It can't be if it's not the original Video! (IMO)

The fourth image I have rotated because I believe this looks like the correct way up for the video.... Has this video been changed???  (IMO) It has!

The Date/ Time etc should all be one line of information.... Not done like someone has pressed return on the keyboard to put the Time in the next line...

 Don't know what anyone else thinks..
 Can someone tell what editing suite may have been used??
 I'm sure there are some video experts on here.....

The Third image doesn't says self service... But it Does have the camera Number... This image is also in a Tesco's store...


If you look again at The Joanna Yeats Tesco Image The Information which is Date Time 0.5P... It takes up 3 white tiles on the floors worth of space...  Thats Not right!

 I'll ask the Defences next question:
 What Time was Joanna Yeates In Tesco???? Because Rebecca Scott says she rang Joanna Yeates at 8:30pm and talked for 15 mins... well that's seeming more accurate.. It's this video that doesn't appear to be (IMO)


EDIT:... Could Joanna Yeates Have been in Tesco's Later ?? After she spoke to Rebecca Scott??

Also if you look at image 3... the video seems the correct way up!! So how much manipulating has been done to The Joanna Yeates video?

Changes everything... Think all the CCTV needs looking at!!!
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--- Quote from: Leonora on April 20, 2017, 08:04:14 AM ---I don't disagree with your exposure of the degree of tampering with the CCTV video clips at all, Nine. However, these iffy clips played no part in Vincent Tabak's conviction whatsoever, as he himself told the court that he strangled Joanna and dumped her body. The CCTV was mere window dressing.

Apart from VT'is own testimony, the only evidence needed was Greg Reardon's testimony to the strange movements in the flat, the iffy DNA evidence, and the pathologist's account of Joanna's injuries and his opinion about whether she could have been strangled inside 20 seconds or not. Nor were more than two days needed for the trial. All the rest was for show.

Well done for posting the CCTV video clip of Becky Watts's horrible killers buying their DIY body disposal kit, to show us how a "real" murder conviction is carried out! I am sure that this clip played its part in proving to the CPS and to the jury that these dreadful people did what they did to the man's step-sister - whom, of course, he knew well and lusted after. It was SO different from the Jo Yeates case, where the police wilfully ignored evidence that she was killed by someone she knew well, and focused on no fewer than two very improbable men whom she did not know well.

The evidence of CCTV-tampering that bugs you so much proves a conspiracy, and one that is more far-reaching than just the police's public manipulation of a suspect. So the iffy CCTV captions are all very valuable to us sceptics! IMO, however, it is the removal of the chroma component from the Ram pub video clips that is the biggest giveaway of all. It HAD to be done to prevent us from spotting that the blouse Joanna wore was quite a different top from the one found on her body. This suggests that she was killed much later than the court was told.

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We already have Dr Delaney description of her Flower Patterned Pink Top Leonora, when she clearly is wearing a plain top at the Ram!

So that evidence in itself should be enough to show the TimeLine has changed and so had here movements...

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