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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => A current list of British and Irish children, young adults and other people currently reported as missing. => Topic started by: Carana on August 18, 2013, 11:15:02 AM
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How many people keep repeating that child abduction nearly always involves a family member or someone known to the child?
Thursday 23 May 2013
CHILD ABDUCTION REPORT REVEALS NEED FOR A REVAMPED ‘STRANGER-DANGER’ ALERT
Nearly half of all child abduction cases reported in the UK between 2011-12 were committed by strangers, according to police figures published in a unique report today.
‘Taken – a study of child abductions in the UK’ brings together, for the first time, academic expertise and a sample of police data to provide a snapshot of the extent of child abductions in the UK.
The report, commissioned by the charity Parents and Abducted Children Together (PACT) and the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (CEOP) Centre, comes just days before International Missing Children’s Day this Saturday (25 May).
The report re-ignites calls for a revamp of ‘stranger-danger’ warnings in the wake of findings which show that in 42 per cent of police reports studied, the abductor or would-be abductor was not known to the child. It also reveals that 17 per cent were abducted (or attempted) by a parent, two per cent by another family member and 35 per cent by someone known but not related to the child (four per cent were unknown offenders).
The report calls for the creation of a national child abduction ‘hub’ to give a clearer picture of the problem across the UK and provide data and support to improve how agencies deal with abductions.
It warns that at present the true extent of child abductions is “impossible” to calculate with the necessary accuracy because of inconsistencies in the recording of offences. It highlights how details of different types of child abductions are held by police forces, government, legal bodies and voluntary agencies, but that this information is not always published or made routinely available.
The report sets out 14 recommendations: from agreeing a UK-wide definition of child abduction, through improving how police record and respond to incidents, to revamping current ‘stranger-danger’ warnings for children and learning from why so many attempted stranger abductions fail.
Geoff Newiss, PACT’s Director of Research and author of the report said:
This new report exposes the reality of child abduction in the UK today. Whilst children are abducted by parents and people known to them, a large proportion of incidents still involve strangers, often trying to lure a child into a car, and sometimes succeeding in doing so. The big challenge is to find prevention strategies fit for the 21st century that children can use in a very practical way to keep themselves safe.”
The Founder and Chief Executive of PACT, Lady Catherine Meyer, CBE said:
Our report, prepared in close collaboration with CEOP, provides the first ever comprehensive picture of child abduction and child kidnapping in the UK. Many will find its revelations shocking. More importantly, by showing the extent of this hidden scandal, PACT’s report provides a vital platform for future action. The next stage of our work will be entirely focused on the practical steps necessary to protect our children from the would-be abductor."
In 2011, the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (CEOP) Centre took over the national strategic lead on missing children and now works with a wide range of partners to better understand and address the issue.
Chief Executive of CEOP, Peter Davies, said:
This is a unique and unprecedented report. We have never had a UK-wide picture of child abductions this detailed and compelling. It shows the immense harm that child abduction can do and that, contrary to what some might assume, a significant proportion of abductions are carried out by strangers.
“Any incident of a child going missing is a cause for concern. Fortunately, only a small proportion turn-out to be indicative of very serious harm. Together with our partners, we must constantly redouble our efforts to reduce the risk to children. International Missing Children’s Day is a good opportunity for us to reflect on this important and complex issue.”
http://ceop.police.uk/Media-Centre/Press-releases/2013/CHILD-ABDUCTION-REPORT-REVEALS-NEED-FOR-A-REVAMPED-STRANGER-DANGER-ALERT/
The actual study:
http://ceop.police.uk/Documents/ceopdocs/TAKEN_Final%20Copy.pdf
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Copying over some background information / studies for anyone interested.
Nonfamily Abducted Children: National Estimates and Characteristics
David Finkelhor, Heather Hammer, and Andrea J. Sedlak
http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/documents/nismart2_nonfamily.pdf
A Portuguese article here on research by a clinical neuropsychologist on paedophiles.
http://www1.ionline.pt/conteudo/34070-como-pensa-um-pedofilo-o-que-vai-na-cabeca-13-agressores-sexuais
An FBI paper on motivations for child abduction at different stages of childhood.
http://leb.fbi.gov/2001-pdfs/leb-april-2001
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Interesting, Carana. Thank you for bringing that here.
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This does not mean Madeleine was abducted.
Meanwhile why does the CFO still list what happened to Madeleine as 'type of crime unknown' ?
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This does not mean Madeleine was abducted.
Meanwhile why does the CFO still list what happened to Madeleine as 'type of crime unknown' ?
What's the CFO? Chief Financial Officer? Or did you mean FCO?
How else could it have been classified?
There is no categorical evidence that she was abducted: no CCTV images of someone carrying her; no passerby who saw her being actually carried out of the apartment, nor seeing her being stuffed into a car boot and screetching off, with the onlooker carefully noting the licence plate number. But how often is there any proof of that nature? We may hear more about such cases in the media because it's so rare as to be particularly newsworthy. They are the "lucky" ones.
There is no proof, either, that she's dead, whether as the result of an accident or murder.
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Copying over some background information / studies for anyone interested.
Nonfamily Abducted Children: National Estimates and Characteristics
David Finkelhor, Heather Hammer, and Andrea J. Sedlak
http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/documents/nismart2_nonfamily.pdf
A Portuguese article here on research by a clinical neuropsychologist on paedophiles.
http://www1.ionline.pt/conteudo/34070-como-pensa-um-pedofilo-o-que-vai-na-cabeca-13-agressores-sexuais
An FBI paper on motivations for child abduction at different stages of childhood.
http://leb.fbi.gov/2001-pdfs/leb-april-2001
Carana
You get hold of some wonderful information. Well done our kid!
Stephen , why dont you pause and read these webpages carefully. Take on board what they are saying
Then reflect.
Consider whether you have been fair to The Mccanns, the parents of a missing little girl who they clearly loved dearly. A little girl who they are still fighting for in an unprecedented way, despite the spiteful comments of people who know nothing about it .
Why don't you join the Brens of this world and try and look with an open mind?
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We do have open minds, Sadie, but six years after evidence was promised still none has ever been seen.
In 2007 they said "there is evidence, we just can't tell you now", yet four years later in their book none emerged.
Now we're told "police know more than you do" and you yourself claim to know secret information, but I personally don't blame anyone for thinking history will repeat itself and nothing will ever be seen.
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We do have open minds, Sadie, but six years after evidence was promised still none has ever been seen.
In 2007 they said "there is evidence, we just can't tell you now", yet four years later in their book none emerged.
Now we're told "police know more than you do" and you yourself claim to know secret information, but I personally don't blame anyone for thinking history will repeat itself and nothing will ever be seen.
About whether anything will be revealed, I am unable to answer. This man is an elite with powerful very rich friends ... and if I am right, he is backed by an organisation that imo, nobody will take on. Such is its global power.
I fully realise that I could be incorrect, but it has been amazing how clumps of the sorted jigsaw suddenly fitted together and became a whole (virtually) in a matter of weeks ... after 4 years hard slog.
There are gaps, and I am not naive. As an analogy, I can remember doing jigsaws that appeared Ok until I couldn't get the last piece in. That happened because I had one piece in upside down, throwing the whole lot out.
I know that could be the case here, but something extra-ordinary has happened which confirms the outline of my research and thoughts.
I cannot share.
All that I am saying is that with all the evidence provided on this forum, it is time for [ censored word] to reflect, to think about it .... and at the very least to stop hounding and destroying a couple, a family, who have NO evidence against them.
I am suggesting that some of you would benefit by "taking a leaf out of Brens book"
It happened on pfa2, a forum that was full of intellectuals. Many oif them were [ censored word] / fencies originally, but after the Rogs etc were released, they analysed them ... and changed tbeir minds. A brave thing to do.
In the end pfa2 was virtually totally a pro forum and full of convered peeps.
Only you can make the decision.
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About whether anything will be revealed, I am unable to answer. This man is an elite with powerful very rich friends ... and if I am right, he is backed by an organisation that imo, nobody will take on. Such is its global power.
I fully realise that I could be incorrect, but it has been amazing how clumps of the sorted jigsaw suddenly fitted together and became a whole (virtually) in a matter of weeks ... after 4 years hard slog.
There are gaps, and I am not naive. As an analogy, I can remember doing jigsaws that appeared Ok until I couldn't get the last piece in. That happened because I had one piece in upside down, throwing the whole lot out.
I know that could be the case here, but something extra-ordinary has happened which confirms the outline of my research and thoughts.
I cannot share.
All that I am saying is that with all the evidence provided on this forum, it is time for [ censored word] to reflect, to think about it .... and at the very least to stop hounding and destroying a couple, a family, who have NO evidence against them.
I am suggesting that some of you would benefit by "taking a leaf out of Brens book"
It happened on pfa2, a forum that was full of intellectuals. Many oif them were [ censored word] / fencies originally, but after the Rogs etc were released, they analysed them ... and changed tbeir minds. A brave thing to do.
In the end pfa2 was virtually totally a pro forum and full of convered peeps.
Only you can make the decision.
You do make me laugh sadie. Thanks for brightening my day 8(0(*
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Theres a very simple reason why children who are harmed a family member is involved or an adult known to the family. Children for the most part spend there time supervised by a family. they don't go to the pub on their own and they don't get into taxis, go on holiday on their own.
the only time they are at risk from a stranger is when they are left on their own. Like in an apt in Portugal.
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I made it, Sadie, and I'm not a "[ censored word ]" 8(0(*
I see no evidence. Your theory falls when you claim "an organisation with global power" sends two amateurs into the field - one of whom leaves his dna on cigarette butts at the scene, and the other enters an apartment when he isn't certain the child's father has left it.
Not convincing >@@(*&)
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In support of his op would Carana like to name any recent cases in the UK where a child was abducted by a stranger? Many abduction by family cases never reach the statistics so I am not in the least surprised that this survey is flawed.
It is important to recognise that cases where the abductor is known to the child are far more common than cases where the abductor is a complete stranger.
https://missingkids.ca/app/en/non_family_abduction
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In support of his op would Carana like to name any recent cases in the UK where a child was abducted by a stranger?
It is important to recognise that cases where the abductor is known to the child are far more common than cases where the abductor is a complete stranger.
https://missingkids.ca/app/en/non_family_abduction
Theres a very simple reason why children who are harmed a family member is involved or an adult known to the family. Children for the most part spend there time supervised by a family. they don't go to the pub on their own and they don't get into taxis, go on holiday on their own.
the only time they are at risk from a stranger is when they are left on their own. Like in an apt in Portugal.
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Theres a very simple reason why children who are harmed a family member is involved or an adult known to the family. Children for the most part spend there time supervised by a family. they don't go to the pub on their own and they don't get into taxis, go on holiday on their own.
the only time they are at risk from a stranger is when they are left on their own. Like in an apt in Portugal.
And in an unsecured and unlocked apartment at that!! And what makes it all the more surreal is they aren't even f..... looking for her...too busy rakin it in being a consultant!! SHAMEFUL to be sure.
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In support of his op would Carana like to name any recent cases in the UK where a child was abducted by a stranger?
It is important to recognise that cases where the abductor is known to the child are far more common than cases where the abductor is a complete stranger.
https://missingkids.ca/app/en/non_family_abduction
- 37% are total strangers in that link
That's still a far cry from "almost negligible".
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What's the CFO? Chief Financial Officer? Or did you mean FCO?
How else could it have been classified?
nt FfCOThere is no categorical evidence that she was abducted: no CCTV images of someone carrying her; no passerby who saw her being actually carried out of the apartment, nor seeing her being stuffed into a car boot and screetching off, with the onlooker carefully noting the licence plate number. But how often is there any proof of that nature? We may hear more about such cases in the media because it's so rare as to be particularly newsworthy. They are the "lucky" ones.
There is no proof, either, that she's dead, whether as the result of an accident or murder.
Yes I meant FCO.
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- 37% are total strangers in that link
- 42% in the UK study (which also says that that percentage may be underestimated).
That's still a far cry from "almost negligible".
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Name any recent ones Carana?
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You do make me laugh sadie. Thanks for brightening my day 8(0(*
My pleasure Faith
What a pity you cannot open your mind and read facts
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Name any recent ones Carana?
Sarah Payne.
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We do have open minds, Sadie, but six years after evidence was promised still none has ever been seen.
In 2007 they said "there is evidence, we just can't tell you now", yet four years later in their book none emerged.
Now we're told "police know more than you do" and you yourself claim to know secret information, but I personally don't blame anyone for thinking history will repeat itself and nothing will ever be seen.
Of course they know more than we do. They have gathered all the evidence that is going. None of us have been able to do that.
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And in an unsecured and unlocked apartment at that!! And what makes it all the more surreal is they aren't even f..... looking for her...too busy rakin it in being a consultant!! SHAMEFUL to be sure.
What do you mean by not looking for her...do you expect them to be trawling the streets of Portugal.
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What they have done is kept the search for her high profile and they have been pilloried for that.
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Of course they know more than we do. They have gathered all the evidence that is going. None of us have been able to do that.
We shall see. All will be revealed, or not. I remember the article by James Murray - a man very close to everybody in this case - when he spoke to Murat. That article seemed to suggest the possibility the public may not be told.
So as I say I don't blame anyone for thinking history is just going to repeat itself, sooner or later. No conclusion.
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Name any recent ones Carana?
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Police force data
Data were collected from UK police forces on 592 cases – involving 675 victims – of child abduction, kidnapping
(of children) and abduction (of children, an offence limited to Scotland) recorded during the financial year 2011/12. Police data are limited to what is reported to the police and what can be recorded under the different offence categories. Incidents resulting in more serious offences (such as murder and rape) are unlikely to be recorded as child abductions, and therefore would have been excluded from this analysis.
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And in an unsecured and unlocked apartment at that!! And what makes it all the more surreal is they aren't even f..... looking for her...too busy rakin it in being a consultant!! SHAMEFUL to be sure.
Gawd strewth!
You are not still on that one, are you Angelo?
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from: Angelo222 on Today at 02:17:15 PM
Name any recent ones Carana?
Carana 2.
Police force data
Data were collected from UK police forces on 592 cases – involving 675 victims – of child abduction, kidnapping
(of children) and abduction (of children, an offence limited to Scotland) recorded during the financial year 2011/12. Police data are limited to what is reported to the police and what can be recorded under the different offence categories. Incidents resulting in more serious offences (such as murder and rape) are unlikely to be recorded as child abductions, and therefore would have been excluded from this analysis.
You are amazing Carana.
Voila. Here is the proof !
BAM ! Another Myth hits the ground !
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Sarah Payne.
I asked for recent examples but obviously there aren't any. A quick look at the Missing Persons Charity website indicates that most missing children are aged between 14 and 18.
There are plenty of examples of abduction of under 10's by family or friend such as Thila Rojas, Martin & Dominika Gajdar, April Jones, Shannon Matthews, Aamina Khan, Emanuel and Felipe Diaz etc
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My pleasure Faith
What a pity you cannot open your mind and read facts
What a pity you can not see how ridiculous your 'theories' make you appear. Still I'm sure there's no harm in it if it keeps you out of the way of the traffic.
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- 37% are total strangers in that link
That's still a far cry from "almost negligible".
Sorry but that survey is so out of step as to be laughable. They even include reports of attempted abduction of teenagers. Better luck next time Carana. @)(++(*
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Name any recent ones Carana?
Not all of these cases hit the headlines. Until relatively recently, such news tended to be in the regional or national media.
Madeleine's case seems to be one of the first ones in recent years that has hit the press even in the furthermost corners of the world.
- UK - Sarah Payne (2000); the girl in the bathtub (2005); a young boy held by a man people assumed was his father; a 10-year-old boy, luckily found quickly (2011). http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-15736607
- Ylenia (Switzerland). Opportunistic predator.
- Mari Luz (Spain). In this case, it seems the abductor had moved to the vicinity, but was avoided by the family due to previous convictions as having abused his own children whilst living elsewhere.
- A young boy (France), who was at an open-air market with his dad, was snatched and abused - thankfully eventually found alive.
- Another recent one about a little girl who was eventually dumped outside a petrol station (not sure which country).
There are also cases in a grey area. A young teenager seemingly willingly went off with some guy who'd befriended her at a camping ground, but was then sequestrated and raped until the police eventually located her.
I could find quite a few others, but it depends what you call "recent". Quite a few from the 90s seem to have hit the international press in recent years, e.g., Simon Jones (UK), Tara Burke (US), Natascha Kampusch (Austria), Stephanie (Germany). There are potentially lots of others but, in some countries, the press are more respectful of privacy once a child has been found alive.
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I asked for recent examples but obviously there aren't any. A quick look at the Missing Persons Charity website indicates that most missing children are aged between 14 and 18.
There are plenty of examples of abduction of under 10's by family or friend such as Thila Rojas, Martin & Dominika Gajdar, April Jones, Shannon Matthews, Aamina Khan, Emanuel and Felipe Diaz etc
The only child missing from my list but still listed by Missing Children in the UK is Madeleine McCann. It would be disingenuous of me to include her as a family or friend abduction after all at this stage.
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Sorry but that survey is so out of step as to be laughable. They even include reports of attempted abduction of teenagers. Better luck next time Carana. @)(++(*
An attempted abduction is only one that - thankfully - did not succeed.
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Not all of these cases hit the headlines. Until relatively recently, such news tended to be in the regional or national media.
Madeleine's case seems to be one of the first ones in recent years that has hit the press even in the furthermost corners of the world.
- UK - Sarah Payne (2000); the girl in the bathtub (2005); a young boy held by a man people assumed was his father; a 10-year-old boy, luckily found quickly (2011). http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-15736607
- Ylenia (Switzerland). Opportunistic predator.
- Mari Luz (Spain). In this case, it seems the abductor had moved to the vicinity, but was avoided by the family due to previous convictions as having abused his own children whilst living elsewhere.
- A young boy (France), who was at an open-air market with his dad, was snatched and abused - thankfully eventually found alive.
- Another recent one about a little girl who was eventually dumped outside a petrol station (not sure which country).
There are also cases in a grey area. A young teenager seemingly willingly went off with some guy who'd befriended her at a camping ground, but was then sequestrated and raped until the police eventually located her.
I could find quite a few others, but it depends what you call "recent". Quite a few from the 90s seem to have hit the international press in recent years, e.g., Simon Jones (UK), Tara Burke (US), Natascha Kampusch (Austria), Stephanie (Germany). There are potentially lots of others but, in some countries, the press are more respectful of privacy once a child has been found alive.
You started the thread and now when you have lost the argument you revert to UK plus mostly non UK cases? Says it all. @)(++(*
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You started the thread and now when you have lost the argument you revert to UK plus mostly non UK cases? Says it all. @)(++(*
Madeleine didn't disappear in the UK.
I'm not aware of similar published studies in other countries.
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I've changed the title to Europe, if that makes you happier. I originally wrote UK because of the study.
I find the Ylenia case relevant to the broader discussion: a 5-year-old kidnapped from Appenzell in Switzerland by an opportunistic predator who lived in Spain. If the swimming-pool attendant hadn't seen her get into his car, her mother would still be under a cloud of suspicion.
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I've changed the title to Europe, if that makes you happier. I originally wrote UK because of the study.
I find the Ylenia case relevant to the broader discussion: a 5-year-old kidnapped from Appenzell in Switzerland by an opportunistic predator who lived in Spain. If the swimming-pool attendant hadn't seen her get into his car, her mother would still be under a cloud of suspicion.
Aw that is so like the Madeleine case. But in that case seems they took notice orf the witness.
Not like Amaral who ignored all the british wotnesses and most importantly the Golden witness Jane Tanner.
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Aw that is so like the Madeleine case. But in that case seems they took notice orf the witness.
Not like Amaral who ignored all the british wotnesses and most importantly the Golden witness Jane Tanner.
The Golden witness whose credibility Gerry tried to undermine later in Madeleine Was Here, that Golden witness ?
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The Golden witness whose credibility Gerry tried to undermine later in Madeleine Was Here, that Golden witness ?
He made a mistake, like any of us may have made when in such a battered state. His memory failed.
Dont forget thta he had nothing to gain by saying that it was the other side of the road. Nothing.
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He made a mistake, like any of us may have made when in such a battered state. His memory failed.
Dont forget thta he had nothing to gain by saying that it was the other side of the road. Nothing.
He knew that it was almost impossible for Tanner to pass him and Jez and not be seen and making the sighting possible by putting himself on the other side of the road is exactly what he had to gain.
As to him making a mistake, then why not admit that he any be wrong instead of undermining the credibility of his main witness ?
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Aw that is so like the Madeleine case. But in that case seems they took notice orf the witness.
Not like Amaral who ignored all the british wotnesses and most importantly the Golden witness Jane Tanner.
It was a very strange case, Sadie.
He buried her in the woods, then shot himself in the head elsewhere after shooting someone else. The only link was that clothes were found near him with her DNA, and her DNA was in the car.
Despite a massive police search, they couldn't find her body.
In the end, it was a student who spent his weekends doing his own searches who eventually found her remains. She'd been buried 1-2 feet and wild animals had dug her up.
There is some correspondence in the files about it.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/OTHER_DISAPPEARANCES.htm
It's not entirely clear what follow up there was at the time. The Met went to meet with the Swiss police about it not that long ago.
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Ylenia Lenhard wasn't abducted when sleeping in her bed but when walking in a street. What killed her was a solvent, (mis)used for its euphoric effects, to induce sleepiness.
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Ylenia Lenhard wasn't abducted when sleeping in her bed but when walking in a street. What killed her was a solvent, (mis)used for its euphoric effects, to induce sleepiness.
Which demonstrates how hard it would have been for an abductor to have sedated the McCann children, safely, in the time available.
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Which demonstrates how hard it would have been for an abductor to have sedated the McCann children, safely, in the time available.
Not if he had done it before.
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There was a little girl taken from a tent in her garden wasn't there? By a stranger.
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Not if he had done it before.
What, like an anaesthetist ?
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Chemical on a cloth Faithfully.
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Chemical on a cloth Faithfully.
No thanks Lace, I've just had my dinner.
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There was a little girl taken from a tent in her garden wasn't there? By a stranger.
And one from her bath, By a stranger.
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And one from her bath, By a stranger.
How could they possibly do that. the window of opportunity could only be a matter of seconds. Impossible
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And one from her bath, By a stranger.
Did the abductor leave any evidence
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Are any of the [ censored word] getting the picture...an abduction by a stranger in seconds..and no forensic evidence
impossible
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Did the abductor leave any evidence
Yes Davel, the obvious sort.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/5402462.stm
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The Golden witness whose credibility Gerry tried to undermine later in Madeleine Was Here, that Golden witness ?
I didn't find that he was undermining her at all, they were acknowledging that they simply had slightly different recollections of exactly where the two men were standing.
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Ylenia Lenhard wasn't abducted when sleeping in her bed but when walking in a street. What killed her was a solvent, (mis)used for its euphoric effects, to induce sleepiness.
I didn't say she was.
Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her bed by a stranger, whilst her parents were sleeping.
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I've changed the title to Europe, if that makes you happier. I originally wrote UK because of the study.
I find the Ylenia case relevant to the broader discussion: a 5-year-old kidnapped from Appenzell in Switzerland by an opportunistic predator who lived in Spain. If the swimming-pool attendant hadn't seen her get into his car, her mother would still be under a cloud of suspicion.
You cannot move the goal posts after the goal has been scored Carana. I have changed it back.
Clearly abduction in the UK differs from that which takes place elsewhere involving other cultures.
For example you cannot compare an abduction which takes place in England to that which takes place in Siberia or India for a multitude of reasons.
If you wish to discuss abduction in Europe please open a new thread.
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I didn't say she was.
Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her bed by a stranger, whilst her parents were sleeping.
Very curious abduction in fact. Elizabeth was 14, she wasn't sleeping and she knew the man she followed (he didn't carry her).
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You cannot move the goal posts after the goal has been scored Carana. I have changed it back.
Clearly abduction in the UK differs from that which takes place elsewhere involving other cultures.
For example you cannot compare an abduction which takes place in England to that which takes place in Siberia or India for a multitude of reasons.
If you wish to discuss abduction in Europe please open a new thread.
Of course, and as we know, Madeleine wasn't abducted in the UK. So what was the significance of Amaral citing the report that Harrison showed him about UK statistics in his book?
If you read it quickly, it gives the impression that in 96% of cases of crimes against children, the parents/friends are responsible, i.e. it gives the impression to the average reader that there was an overwhelming probability that the parents/T7 were involved. He seems to be mixing all the subsets of crime: child sexual abuse (in which family, friends and persons in authority would obviously form the majority due to access), with murder and abduction. Then he jumps to the conclusion that in only 4% of cases is a child murderer/abductor a stranger.
I have doubts that he correctly understood the report, or else it's badly worded. Unfortunately, I haven't found the report that he appears to be referring to online to read it for myself.
AMAZING STATISTICS
Great Britain has at its disposal the world’s biggest data bank on homicide of children under five years old. Since 1960, the count is 1528. Harrison is well acquainted with its contents. He often draws information from there which helps him to resolve similar cases. Valuable information can be found there on on various criminal modus operandi, places where bodies are hidden, techniques used to get rid of a body. He relates that on one occasion, thanks to the data, he was able to deduce the maximum distance a body might be found in relation to where the crime had been committed.
The figures quoted in the report he hands over give us the shivers. The crimes, including those of a sexual nature, are committed by the parents in 84% of cases; 96% are perpetrated by friends and relatives. In only 4% of them is the murderer or abductor a total stranger to the victim. In this roundabout way, Mark Harrison points out that the guilty party may be a person close to Madeleine, and even her own parents. From now on, we have to explore this track, especially as the others have proved fruitless.
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Have you found stats about children death due to lack of anticipation ? They are very difficult to establish. How would you qualify the death of a child falling in a pool when the father only left to pick up a ringing phone ?
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Have you found stats about children death due to lack of anticipation ? They are very difficult to establish. How would you qualify the death of a child falling in a pool when the father only left to pick up a ringing phone ?
Death by misadventure resulting from parental negligence.
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I am afraid the facts speak for themself.
It was claimed yesterday that the number of abductions by strangers in the UK is almost as high as abduction by a family member or friend.
I asked for recent examples but obviously there aren't any and a quick read through the Missing Persons Charity website indicates that most missing children are aged between 14 and 18.
In the UK recently there were several examples of abduction of young children by family or friends including Thila Rojas, Martin & Dominika Gajdar, April Jones, Shannon Matthews, Aamina Khan, Emanuel and Felipe Diaz. There isn't a single example of stranger abduction of a young child.
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Death by misadventure resulting from parental negligence.
Death by misadventure, yes. And there are many, usually kept private because tabloids aren't as greedy and insensitive as they're renowned to be.
But I don't agree "negligence" is the right explanation. I think the idea is more that misadventures only happen to others.
Physical punishments gained opprobrium because there were sometimes fatal consequences.
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I am afraid the facts speak for themself.
It was claimed yesterday that the number of abductions by strangers in the UK is almost as high as abduction by a family member or friend.
I asked for recent examples but obviously there aren't any and a quick read through the Missing Persons Charity website indicates that most missing children are aged between 14 and 18.
In the UK recently there were several examples of abduction of young children by family or friends including Thila Rojas, Martin & Dominika Gajdar, April Jones, Shannon Matthews, Aamina Khan, Emanuel and Felipe Diaz. There isn't a single example of stranger abduction of a young child.
Even the archetypal abduction of the Lindbergh baby by a stranger wasn't an abduction, according to an historian.
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I am afraid the facts speak for themself.
It was claimed yesterday that the number of abductions by strangers in the UK is almost as high as abduction by a family member or friend.
I asked for recent examples but obviously there aren't any and a quick read through the Missing Persons Charity website indicates that most missing children are aged between 14 and 18.
In the UK recently there were several examples of abduction of young children by family or friends including Thila Rojas, Martin & Dominika Gajdar, April Jones, Shannon Matthews, Aamina Khan, Emanuel and Felipe Diaz. There isn't a single example of stranger abduction of a young child.
I listed several examples on a previous page.
Here's another one:
Three held after kidnap and assault of girl, 3
· Badly injured victim rescued after police chase
· Child was snatched from home 80 miles away
Rosie Cowan, crime correspondent
The Guardian, Thursday 5 January 2006
Detectives were last night questioning three men suspected of involvement in the kidnap and suspected rape of a three-year-old girl, rescued more than 80 miles away from home after a dramatic police chase.
The child was snatched from a house in the Rumney area of Cardiff around 10.30pm on Monday.
South Wales police arrested a 34-year-old man a short time later and were looking for a grey Ford Escort when, just after 1am, officers in Wiltshire spotted the car driving through a red light in Swindon. They chased the vehicle more than 14 miles along the M4 and the A4 until it crashed near Marlborough.
The girl was flown to hospital in Swindon, where she was treated for "significant injuries" before being discharged last night. It is believed she was hurt in the crash but she had sustained other injuries beforehand.
The 26-year-old driver was arrested at the scene and another man, aged 47, was arrested later in south Wales.
A police spokeswoman refused to specify where the 34-year-old or the 47-year-old were picked up. But she confirmed that forensic officers were examining a property in a block of flats in Newport, about half an hour's drive from Rumney.
Police appealed to the people of Rumney to help them find out what happened.
"This is an extremely rare event, which makes it all the more shocking," said Superintendent Josh Jones, deputy divisional commander for Cardiff. "Rumney is a closeknit community and we ask residents to work closely with us in providing any information they can. We will continue to provide a very visible police presence in the area."
Detective Superintendent Paul Kemp, who is leading the investigation, said: "The allegations are horrendous and I would urge anyone who has further information to contact us." An incident room has been set up at Penarth police station and callers are asked to phone 02920 222111 or speak anonymously to Crimestoppers on 0800 555111.
Last night, detectives were given a further 36 hours to question the 26-year-old and 34-year-old - the two arrested earliest. Describing the car chase, Chief Inspector Charlie Dibble, of Wiltshire police, said: "Our attention was drawn to a grey Ford Escort travelling with no headlights from Blagrove near junction 16 of the M4 shortly after 1am. The vehicle passed through a red traffic light and did not stop. Officers followed the vehicle eastbound along the M4, then off at junction 15 heading south.
"Midway between Marlborough and Hungerford on the A4, the driver of the Escort lost control of the vehicle which then crashed. The male was arrested by traffic officers and the child was taken by the police helicopter to Great Western hospital in Swindon for medical examination. He has now been handed over to South Wales police, as the substantive offences took place there."
The three-year-old's mother, who cannot be named for legal reasons, said: "It's like a nightmare. You don't expect this to happen to you. The police had everyone out looking for her. They were brilliant."
The Cardiff abduction comes a week after a six-year-old girl was left naked in an alley in North Tyneside after being snatched from her bath and sexually assaulted.
The Tyneside incident is not thought to be connected to the Cardiff case.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/jan/05/ukcrime.childprotection
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It seems the Uk is becoming one of the most dangerous countries for children.
In 2012 in Portugal there were 53 cases (14 more than in 2011), 32 of which were "parental abductions" (usually small children under 12), 16 ran away from home (teens).
All of the 53 were found and returned to their original families.
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/sociedade/desaparecidas-53-criancas-em-2012 (http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/sociedade/desaparecidas-53-criancas-em-2012)
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It seems the Uk is becoming one of the most dangerous countries for children.
In 2012 in Portugal there were 53 cases (14 more than in 2011), 32 of which were "parental abductions" (usually small children under 12), 16 ran away from home (teens).
All of the 53 were found and returned to their original families.
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/sociedade/desaparecidas-53-criancas-em-2012 (http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/sociedade/desaparecidas-53-criancas-em-2012)
I agree with you Luz and the McCanns have stated that they felt PDL was a very safe place. Safe enough to leave the children while they dined at the Tapas Bar 50 metres away. just very unlucky.
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It seems the Uk is becoming one of the most dangerous countries for children.
In 2012 in Portugal there were 53 cases (14 more than in 2011), 32 of which were "parental abductions" (usually small children under 12), 16 ran away from home (teens).
All of the 53 were found and returned to their original families.
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/sociedade/desaparecidas-53-criancas-em-2012 (http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/sociedade/desaparecidas-53-criancas-em-2012)
Really?
But what about the other 5? who were those kidnapped by?
And this year up to May 25-05-2013, 31 of which occurred this year!
Police investigating 64 missing children's cases
by TPN/ Lusa, in General News · 25-05-2013 14:57:00 ·
The Portuguese justice minister has revealed police were currently investigating the cases of 64 missing children, 31 of which occurred this year.
Minister Paula Teixeira da Cruz said at the end of a conference on “Missing Children and Sexual Exploitation”, that over 4,000 children were reported missing every year, though the numbers were dropping slowly.
Most children aged under nine who were reported missing were cases of being taken by their mother or father without the spouse's consent and most of these cases occurred in August, during the summer holidays.
Many disappearances in youngsters aged 15-18 were voluntary and often had to do with exam results, the minister said.
Teixeira da Cruz also said she wanted to do away with the myth there was a 24 to 48 hour interval to denounce a missing child, particularly in the case of parental involvement.
http://theportugalnews.com/news/police-investigating-64-missing-childrens-cases/28502