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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1140 on: April 22, 2016, 11:48:43 AM »
I think that SY believe the same as the PJ did in September 2007.

I think you are totally mistaken

ferryman

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Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1141 on: April 22, 2016, 11:50:12 AM »
I think you are totally mistaken

Think be hanged.

Montclaire is wrong.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1142 on: April 22, 2016, 11:50:36 AM »
It is simply staggering how many things you get wrong.

The only ones blowing a gasket are the mccanns and supporters like you.

tell me what I have got wrong...it will be a very short post..I predicted last May Amaral may well win this round but taht appeals would drag on...correct

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1143 on: April 22, 2016, 11:51:37 AM »
Think be hanged.

Montclaire is wrong.

Montclaire is totally wrong and has nothing to support her statement

stephen25000

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Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1144 on: April 22, 2016, 11:53:08 AM »
tell me what I have got wrong...it will be a very short post..I predicted last May Amaral may well win this round but taht appeals would drag on...correct

You said, maybe he would, or maybe he wouldn't.

Basically you said b....r all.

However, your hatred of Amaral IMO , is just like the mccanns.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2016, 12:19:13 PM by stephen25000 »

Offline Brietta

Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1145 on: April 22, 2016, 11:59:49 AM »
I think that SY believe the same as the PJ did in September 2007.

Is that the conclusion of the competent Rebelo investigation?  I think not.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

ferryman

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Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1146 on: April 22, 2016, 12:01:05 PM »
Montclaire is totally wrong and has nothing to support her statement

Not quite totally wrong.  (Elements of) the PJ (but emphatically never the English contingent of the joint investigation) thought (back in September 2007) that the McCanns were guilty.

One of those elements was Almeida who, much later, around the time that he testified in the libel trial, recanted of that view.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1147 on: April 22, 2016, 12:13:31 PM »
You said, maybe he would, or maybe he wouldn't.

Basically you said b....r all.

However, your hatred of Amaral, is just like the mccanns.

i didn't say that so cite or remove...if someone else posted that you would accuse them of lying...so cite

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1148 on: April 22, 2016, 12:18:10 PM »
Not a sticking-point at all.

The book was published after the files were released.

Breach of judicial secrecy (in preparing the book for publication) occurred before publication (and release to the general public) of the book.

The judge at the court of first-instance understood that, and that's why she handed down the judgement she did.


The appeal-court judges ignored that point.

Let us hope the court of further appeal (the Supreme Court) address and remedy that anomaly.

Judicial secrecy is not the issue being tried.
The original judge made it quite clear in her judgment why she was ruling as she did and it had b***r all to do with judicial secrecy.
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stephen25000

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Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1149 on: April 22, 2016, 12:20:40 PM »
i didn't say that so cite or remove...if someone else posted that you would accuse them of lying...so cite

I have amended it to IMO, that is as much as you will get.

Have you accused me , by the way , of hating the mccanns ?

ferryman

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Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1150 on: April 22, 2016, 12:21:04 PM »
Judicial secrecy is not the issue being tried.
The original judge made it quite clear in her judgment why she was ruling as she did and it had b***r all to do with judicial secrecy.

Having established that judicial secrecy had been breached, she tested the truth (or untruth) of the claims of Amaral's book with what is written in the files.

stephen25000

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Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1151 on: April 22, 2016, 12:24:04 PM »
Having established that judicial secrecy had been breached, she tested the truth (or untruth) of the claims of Amaral's book with what is written in the files.

Well, the 3 judges have said different.

ferryman

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Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1152 on: April 22, 2016, 12:36:14 PM »
Well, the 3 judges have said different.

Why do you think the first-instance judge handed down the judgement she did if she was convinced that Amaral had not breached judicial secrecy?

To be clear, if Amaral did not breach judicial secrecy, he has no case to answer and the McCanns' action is in vain.

stephen25000

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Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1153 on: April 22, 2016, 12:42:06 PM »
Why do you think the first-instance judge handed down the judgement she did if she was convinced that Amaral had not breached judicial secrecy?

To be clear, if Amaral did not breach judicial secrecy, he has no case to answer and the McCanns' action is in vain.

Read the latest judgement.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.
« Reply #1154 on: April 22, 2016, 12:52:56 PM »
Having established that judicial secrecy had been breached, she tested the truth (or untruth) of the claims of Amaral's book with what is written in the files.

The judge repeated pretty much what was said in the appeal judgement on the injunction;

the book that is at stake here, reproducing the contents of some of the case files, which also had an effect on the above mentioned final dispatch that was signed by two Public Ministry Magistrates.

In the book, we do not verify any reference to any facts that are not in that dispatch.
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/10/lisbon-appeals-court-ruling.html

From the libel' trial;

28.    (Items 27 & 28) It is proved that the facts in the book and in the documentary, concerning the investigation, are mostly facts that took place in the investigation and are documented as such. 

The Judge does note that some of the facts in the book are not complete, and some facts that are in the book are not in the case files, including Jane Tanner's alleged "informal" recognition of Robert Murat. 
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