Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.

[Benice]

Well some appear to be excusing leaving children alone, as than have done it themselves.

And some appear to be completely blinkered to the fact that hundreds of thousands of other parents have done the same on holiday and left their children asleep whilst they went to dinner.   Some parents use baby alarms to do the same.   The fact that tour operators, hoteliers etc etc still offer this service because despite what happened to Madeleine - there is still a demand for it by parents whilst they are on holiday  - is also studiously ignored.

Why aren't sceptics demanding that these parents should be investigated for neglect? 

IMO

[stephen25000]

A thesis, which is not proven and which tarnishes the good name of parents who have lost a child and he pays no recompense for that? If he had proof I would support his endeavours, but this sets a pretty shitty precedent don't you think? I don't think it is a question of whether the McCanns dunnit, but whether anyone feels comfortable living in a society where modern day witch hunts are allowed where hearsay and half established facts are offered as proof...

What good name ?

They lost that in leaving three children unprotected and vulnerable to a variety of potential threats.

[Carana]

A thesis, which is not proven and which tarnishes the good name of parents who have lost a child and he pays no recompense for that? If he had proof I would support his endeavours, but this sets a pretty shitty precedent don't you think? I don't think it is a question of whether the McCanns dunnit, but whether anyone feels comfortable living in a society where modern day witch hunts are allowed where hearsay and half established facts are offered as proof...

That's my concern as well. The issue is broader than the McCann case.

[stephen25000]

And some appear to be completely blinkered to the fact that hundreds of thousands of other parents have done the same on holiday and left their children asleep whilst they went to dinner.   Some parents use baby alarms to do the same.   The fact that tour operators, hoteliers etc etc still offer this service because despite what happened to Madeleine - there is still a demand for it by parents whilst they are on holiday  - is also studiously ignored.

Why aren't sceptics demanding that these parents should be investigated for neglect? 

IMO

As far as I am concerned, anyone who does what they did , should be arrested.

Are the ones you are referring to, were they leaving their children in unlocked accomodation ?

[Mr Gray]

Which they failed to disprove despite being given the opportunity and invited to do so by the original investigation.

you show how ridiculous your stance is...no one has to prove themselves innocent

[Mr Gray]

I disagree on that.

He did not say they were responsible for her demise.

His thesis was she had an accident from which she did not recover.

you have said...as have others the mccanns are to blame for maddie's fate

[Lace]

A thesis, which is not proven and which tarnishes the good name of parents who have lost a child and he pays no recompense for that? If he had proof I would support his endeavours, but this sets a pretty shitty precedent don't you think? I don't think it is a question of whether the McCanns dunnit, but whether anyone feels comfortable living in a society where modern day witch hunts are allowed where hearsay and half established facts are offered as proof...

WELL SAID!!

[Mr Gray]

A thesis, which is not proven and which tarnishes the good name of parents who have lost a child and he pays no recompense for that? If he had proof I would support his endeavours, but this sets a pretty shitty precedent don't you think? I don't think it is a question of whether the McCanns dunnit, but whether anyone feels comfortable living in a society where modern day witch hunts are allowed where hearsay and half established facts are offered as proof...

seconded....If what amaral was saying was true I would be calling for the McCanns to be arrested.....it isn't...but some have swallowed it hook line and sinker

[Eleanor]

A thesis, which is not proven and which tarnishes the good name of parents who have lost a child and he pays no recompense for that? If he had proof I would support his endeavours, but this sets a pretty shitty precedent don't you think? I don't think it is a question of whether the McCanns dunnit, but whether anyone feels comfortable living in a society where modern day witch hunts are allowed where hearsay and half established facts are offered as proof...

This is the real concern.  Or does this "Privilege' only apply to ex members of The PJ.

[stephen25000]

seconded....If what amaral was saying was true I would be calling for the McCanns to be arrested.....it isn't...but some have swallowed it hook line and sinker

Yet Amaral could be right as to an accidental death.

[Eleanor]

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[Alice Purjorick]

A thesis, which is not proven and which tarnishes the good name of parents who have lost a child and he pays no recompense for that? If he had proof I would support his endeavours, but this sets a pretty shitty precedent don't you think? I don't think it is a question of whether the McCanns dunnit, but whether anyone feels comfortable living in a society where modern day witch hunts are allowed where hearsay and half established facts are offered as proof...

That would cover a lot of ground. Did you have any particular society, above others of a similar ilk, in mind?

[lordpookles]

That would cover a lot of ground. Did you have any particular society, above others of a similar ilk, in mind?

Hi Alice, no just a humble ideal in mind. What do you think on the matter? Should we allow accusations of this kind without any proof to be printed and distributed without any burden of proof? I could just decide to slander my neighbour for instance and start leafleting the local area with slurs upon his name...

[stephen25000]

Hi Alice, no just a humble ideal in mind. What do you think on the matter? Should we allow accusations of this kind without any proof to be printed and distributed without any burden of proof? I could just decide to slander my neighbour for instance and start leafleting the local area with slurs upon his name...

Yet this has happened in the press for many years.

How would you stop it ?

and how would you stop people using legislation to cover up illegal activities.

[lordpookles]

Yet this has happened in the press for many years.

How would you stop it ?

and how would you stop people using legislation to cover up illegal activities.

The press does make stuff up and they get sued a lot in the UK. No system is perfect and I definitely wouldn't hold the UK up as some beacon of light, but if you make stuff up, get your facts wrong then rightly imo you should be able to in an ideal world sue said person...