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Offline Mrs. B

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #150 on: June 10, 2013, 10:37:32 AM »
Angelo, if you're deeply convinced of such a serious injustice :
Applications to the Court must be sent by post to the following address
The Registrar
European Court of Human Rights
Council of Europe
F-67075 Strasbourg cedex
Fax: +33 (0)3 88 41 27 30
Mrs Cipriano's lawyer should be able to provide the documents required for the application to be accepted.

No need really, I think they're pretty much aware anyway.

Anti-torture group highlights police abuse claims by detainees

More than a year after visiting Portugal for a sixth time, the Council of Europe’s Committee for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (CPT) has issued a lengthy report published on Wednesday 24 April underlying several cases of alleged ill-treatment by Portuguese law enforcement authorities.

In the course of the 2012 visit, the CPT’s delegation examined the treatment of persons deprived of their liberty by law enforcement agencies and of the safeguards against ill-treatment in place.
The report on the visit highlights several cases of alleged ill-treatment.
During the visit, the CPT’s delegation reviewed the treatment of persons detained by various police services (Judicial Police, Public Security Police and Republican National Guard).
The CPT says it received a number of allegations of ill-treatment at the time of apprehension, after the persons concerned had been brought under control, and prior to arrival at police detention facilities; these allegations concerned the PSP, GNR and PJ.
Some allegations of ill-treatment by the judicial police during the interrogation process were also received. In both situations, the ill-treatment was said to consist primarily of slaps, punches and kicks to the body and/or head.
In one case, the alleged ill-treatment was said to have taken place early on the morning of 24 June 2011 by the side of a road near Santiago do Cacém.
A vehicle containing suspected stolen goods was stopped by a GNR patrol and the four occupants were arrested and handcuffed. After some 15 minutes a GNR officer of the rank of Captain arrived on the scene.
Apparently, he was extremely angry that the four persons had carried out a burglary on “his” territory and, using a whip (known as a “piche de boi” and some 50 cm in length) proceeded to beat two of the arrested persons.
Subsequently, the officer allegedly pulled out a serrated knife from his belt and stabbed one of the same persons in the right buttock.
The four suspects were taken to the police station, where one of them alleged that he was again assaulted by the Captain in the car park and received several truncheon blows to the right side of his upper body and to his legs.
Meanwhile, due to the profuse bleeding of the suspect who had been stabbed, the person concerned was taken to hospital where he received some ten stitches.
However, no medical certificate was supplied at the time, nor has it been made available since.
Also, and while the CPT said authorities were mostly helpful in providing assistance with its investigations, its delegation did face resistance from police, such as when it was unable to access the premises of the National Republican Guard station in Sintra despite waiting for 20 minutes, as the duty officer was apparently busy with other duties.
The delegation also visited a number of prisons, focusing on various categories of prisoners, notably those in disciplinary segregation and in high security units as well as juveniles and those held on remand.
In relation to prisons, the report noted the steady increase in the prison population and recommends a multi-pronged approach towards eradicating overcrowding.
It describes the state of dilapidation at Lisbon Central Prison, made worse by chronic overcrowding, and the particularly poor conditions in the basement areas.
The CPT recommends that urgent steps be taken to improve conditions in this prison.
In respect of the high security units at Linhó and Paços de Ferreira Prisons, the report recommends that inmates in these units be provided with a programme of activities and not confined to their cells for up to 22 hours a day.
Recommendations are also made to improve the disciplinary system, including the reduction of the maximum period of solitary confinement as a punishment to 14 days.
In an unrelated development, prison guards in Portugal on Wednesday initiated industrial action, which will last until Tuesday 30 April, against the loss of benefits.
Areas worst affected by the strike are expected to be the transport of prisoners to and from court houses and prison visits of inmates by friends and family.
The full report, including Portuguese authorities’ response to allegations and recommendations is available at:
http://www.cpt.coe.int/documents/prt/2013-04-inf-eng.htm#_Toc331493245

http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/anti-torture-group-highlights-police-abuse-claims-by-detainees/28269

Offline Mo Stache

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #151 on: June 10, 2013, 10:40:10 AM »
You seem to have forgotten that she was convicted on the evidence of a convicted liar.
This is a very important point imo.

stephen25000

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #152 on: June 10, 2013, 10:52:34 AM »
You seem to have forgotten that she was convicted on the evidence of a convicted liar.

Can you prove that  Amaral  was involved in the so called 'torture' of Cipriano, who is a convicted LIAR herself ?

Offline Mo Stache

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #153 on: June 10, 2013, 11:03:22 AM »
Can you prove that  Amaral  was involved in the so called 'torture' of Cipriano, who is a convicted LIAR herself ?
Someone who is involved in an alleged crime of torture doesn't necessarily have to had tortured the person making the claim. Involved also includes those who turned a blind eye to what was going on or who falsified documentation to cover up the alleged torture. Amaral didn't need to have hit Cipriano to have been involved in her torture.

Offline Carana

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #154 on: June 10, 2013, 11:04:38 AM »
Can you prove that  Amaral  was involved in the so called 'torture' of Cipriano, who is a convicted LIAR herself ?

I have never seen any credible evidence that the child got home that night, let alone was killed there.

If Leonor and her brother really did kill her, then they are where they should be: serving long sentences.

IFF they weren't, then the child disappeared in other circumstances.

Something that I find awful is that the third girl in the recent US case wasn't even on the radar as a potential long-term captive by some freak.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #155 on: June 10, 2013, 11:06:34 AM »
Appeal Court Verdict

The Court of Appeal in Évora rejected all appeals concerning aggression against Leonor Cipriano, Joana's mother, who disappeared in 2004 in the Algarve, confirming the full end of First Instance judgment in this case.

The Relation of Evora thus confirmed the application of suspended sentences inspectors Goncalo Amaral, for lying to the court system, and António Cardoso, for forgery.


http://www.tsf.pt/PaginaInicial/Portugal/Interior.aspx?content_id=1809637&tag=Leonor%20Cipriano

The link won't open for me on my iPad. The appeal took place before Cipriano's recent conviction for perjury, yes ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

AnneGuedes

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #156 on: June 10, 2013, 11:15:04 AM »
No need really, I think they're pretty much aware anyway.

Anti-torture group highlights police abuse claims by detainees

More than a year after visiting Portugal for a sixth time, the Council of Europe’s Committee for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (CPT) has issued a lengthy report published on Wednesday 24 April underlying several cases of alleged ill-treatment by Portuguese law enforcement authorities.

In the course of the 2012 visit, the CPT’s delegation examined the treatment of persons deprived of their liberty by law enforcement agencies and of the safeguards against ill-treatment in place.
The report on the visit highlights several cases of alleged ill-treatment.
During the visit, the CPT’s delegation reviewed the treatment of persons detained by various police services (Judicial Police, Public Security Police and Republican National Guard).
The CPT says it received a number of allegations of ill-treatment at the time of apprehension, after the persons concerned had been brought under control, and prior to arrival at police detention facilities; these allegations concerned the PSP, GNR and PJ.
Some allegations of ill-treatment by the judicial police during the interrogation process were also received. In both situations, the ill-treatment was said to consist primarily of slaps, punches and kicks to the body and/or head.
In one case, the alleged ill-treatment was said to have taken place early on the morning of 24 June 2011 by the side of a road near Santiago do Cacém.
A vehicle containing suspected stolen goods was stopped by a GNR patrol and the four occupants were arrested and handcuffed. After some 15 minutes a GNR officer of the rank of Captain arrived on the scene.
Apparently, he was extremely angry that the four persons had carried out a burglary on “his” territory and, using a whip (known as a “piche de boi” and some 50 cm in length) proceeded to beat two of the arrested persons.
Subsequently, the officer allegedly pulled out a serrated knife from his belt and stabbed one of the same persons in the right buttock.
The four suspects were taken to the police station, where one of them alleged that he was again assaulted by the Captain in the car park and received several truncheon blows to the right side of his upper body and to his legs.
Meanwhile, due to the profuse bleeding of the suspect who had been stabbed, the person concerned was taken to hospital where he received some ten stitches.
However, no medical certificate was supplied at the time, nor has it been made available since.
Also, and while the CPT said authorities were mostly helpful in providing assistance with its investigations, its delegation did face resistance from police, such as when it was unable to access the premises of the National Republican Guard station in Sintra despite waiting for 20 minutes, as the duty officer was apparently busy with other duties.
The delegation also visited a number of prisons, focusing on various categories of prisoners, notably those in disciplinary segregation and in high security units as well as juveniles and those held on remand.
In relation to prisons, the report noted the steady increase in the prison population and recommends a multi-pronged approach towards eradicating overcrowding.
It describes the state of dilapidation at Lisbon Central Prison, made worse by chronic overcrowding, and the particularly poor conditions in the basement areas.
The CPT recommends that urgent steps be taken to improve conditions in this prison.
In respect of the high security units at Linhó and Paços de Ferreira Prisons, the report recommends that inmates in these units be provided with a programme of activities and not confined to their cells for up to 22 hours a day.
Recommendations are also made to improve the disciplinary system, including the reduction of the maximum period of solitary confinement as a punishment to 14 days.
In an unrelated development, prison guards in Portugal on Wednesday initiated industrial action, which will last until Tuesday 30 April, against the loss of benefits.
Areas worst affected by the strike are expected to be the transport of prisoners to and from court houses and prison visits of inmates by friends and family.
The full report, including Portuguese authorities’ response to allegations and recommendations is available at:
http://www.cpt.coe.int/documents/prt/2013-04-inf-eng.htm#_Toc331493245

http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/anti-torture-group-highlights-police-abuse-claims-by-detainees/28269
Thank you, Mrs. B. It shows that the European institutions work well and I'm glad that "the Portuguese government has requested the publication of this report and of its response."
The CPT depends on the Council of Europe, though, I was speaking of another institution, specific to the EU, the ECHR.

Offline Mrs. B

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #157 on: June 10, 2013, 11:20:43 AM »
This court case?

Caso Joana: mãe condenada a sete meses por mentir à Justiça

Joana Case: mother convicted to seven months for lying to the court

http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/503/sociedade/joana-homicidio-leonor-cipriano-tvi24/1435335-4071.html

"O tribunal deu como provadas as agressões, embora sem que se tenha apurado a identidade dos agressores."


"The court gave as proven the aggression, although without having ascertained the identity of the attackers."


What part of the above is unclear?

Offline Mrs. B

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #158 on: June 10, 2013, 11:31:30 AM »
Thank you, Mrs. B. It shows that the European institutions work well and I'm glad that "the Portuguese government has requested the publication of this report and of its response."
The CPT depends on the Council of Europe, though, I was speaking of another institution, specific to the EU, the ECHR.

Yes, I'm pleased for Portuguese citizens too - it shows that, at least there are steps being taken to stamp out disgraceful& illegal practices employed by some elements of law enforcement in Portugal.

ECHR & CTP are closely linked together btw

Prevention of torture
A European Committee (CPT)

Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights provides that "no one shall be subjected to torture or to inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment."

This article inspired the 1987 drafting of the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. The Convention gave birth to a non-judicial preventive machinery to protect detainees, based on a system of visits by the European Committee for the Prevention of Torture (CPT).

The CPT has developed detailed standards setting out the criteria whereby the treatment of detainees and prison conditions can be regarded as consistent with human dignity.

The CPT, composed of experts drawn from a variety of professional backgrounds, is the only institution world-wide which can at any time inspect any place of detention located in one of the member states of the Council of Europe.


http://hub.coe.int/what-we-do/human-rights/prevention-of-torture

Offline Eleanor

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #159 on: June 10, 2013, 11:35:38 AM »
This court case?

Caso Joana: mãe condenada a sete meses por mentir à Justiça

Joana Case: mother convicted to seven months for lying to the court

http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/503/sociedade/joana-homicidio-leonor-cipriano-tvi24/1435335-4071.html

"O tribunal deu como provadas as agressões, embora sem que se tenha apurado a identidade dos agressores."


"The court gave as proven the aggression, although without having ascertained the identity of the attackers."


What part of the above is unclear?

This is what it is all about.  The PJ Officers charged with Torture were acquitted.  It was these officers who brought the case against Leonor Cipriano who was unable to prove that it was them wot done it.  Not surprisingly.
But The PJ Hierarchy know who was where and when, and now appear to be after the Pensions of these men.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #160 on: June 10, 2013, 11:39:57 AM »
Yes, I'm pleased for Portuguese citizens too - it shows that, at least there are steps being taken to stamp out disgraceful& illegal practices employed by some elements of law enforcement in Portugal.

ECHR & CTP are closely linked together btw

Prevention of torture
A European Committee (CPT)

Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights provides that "no one shall be subjected to torture or to inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment."

This article inspired the 1987 drafting of the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. The Convention gave birth to a non-judicial preventive machinery to protect detainees, based on a system of visits by the European Committee for the Prevention of Torture (CPT).

The CPT has developed detailed standards setting out the criteria whereby the treatment of detainees and prison conditions can be regarded as consistent with human dignity.

The CPT, composed of experts drawn from a variety of professional backgrounds, is the only institution world-wide which can at any time inspect any place of detention located in one of the member states of the Council of Europe.


http://hub.coe.int/what-we-do/human-rights/prevention-of-torture
All these institutions are linked of course, but, as you know, not all member states of the Council of Europe are member states of the EU, hence concerned by the ECHR.
Is your interest about the  CPT interventions limited to Portugal or does it extend to France, for instance ?

Offline Mrs. B

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #161 on: June 10, 2013, 11:43:23 AM »
My interest in human rights issues is global, thanks for asking, however, we are discussing the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, that was in Portugal & it's the HR issues relating to that case that are being highlighted.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #162 on: June 10, 2013, 11:53:01 AM »
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This court case?

Caso Joana: mãe condenada a sete meses por mentir à Justiça

Joana Case: mother convicted to seven months for lying to the court

http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/503/sociedade/joana-homicidio-leonor-cipriano-tvi24/1435335-4071.html

"O tribunal deu como provadas as agressões, embora sem que se tenha apurado a identidade dos agressores."


"The court gave as proven the aggression, although without having ascertained the identity of the attackers."


What part of the above is unclear?


The court accepted as proven. What else would you expect after a verdict has been delivered ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

AnneGuedes

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #163 on: June 10, 2013, 11:54:45 AM »
My interest in human rights issues is global, thanks for asking, however, we are discussing the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, that was in Portugal & it's the HR issues relating to that case that are being highlighted.
I appreciate your concern about the state of prisons in Portugal but it has nothing to do with Madeleine McCann whose case isn't discussed on this thread. There's no suspicion of violation of human rights in MMC case, Mr Murat didn't complain at least, though I'm conscious there were kind of mental tortures in his respect.

Offline Carana

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #164 on: June 10, 2013, 11:56:00 AM »
I'm not at all convinced by what supposedly happened to Joana Cipriano.

She might be dead, she might be alive.

How can anyone forget the Dutroux case? Two adolescents died, two young kids died, two were eventually found alive.

How can anyone forget the instances in which other kids have eventually been found alive?

A thorough investigaton may well lead to the conclusion that a particular child has died (even if any investigation may have led to errors).

The result of less thorough investigations may leave kids screaming out for help in a world that can't hear them or is no longer listening to their family and friends.

How fair is that?

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