Wandering Off Topic

[G-Unit]

Well, here's an interesting article.


' Growing trend: Last year it was revealed that parents in England and Wales were being arrested every day on suspicion of leaving one or more of their children at home alone '

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3592641/Would-leave-10-month-old-home-Mother-causes-outrage-saying-pops-shop-baby-sleeping-surprising-number-women-agree.html#ixzz48tmQCaoZ
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Interesting that story being written after the Portuguese said they didn't charge the McCanns with neglect out of compassion. I always thought leaving their children was counter-productive. It's nice to go for a meal with friends, but my mind would have been on the children all the time I was out, which would have spoiled the evening for me.

[pegasus]

@Heri, Shining, etc, have you ever been to the top of the stairs in either block?

[ShiningInLuz]

@Heri, Shining, etc, have you ever been to the top of the stairs in either block?

I have never been inside block 4 or block 5.

[G-Unit]

Gerry McCann wrote in his blog on 11th July;

The Portuguese police interviewed three of our friends again today, to clarify points in their initial statements.

Which friends were they? There's nothing in the files that I can see.

[Carana]

Gerry McCann wrote in his blog on 11th July;

The Portuguese police interviewed three of our friends again today, to clarify points in their initial statements.

Which friends were they? There's nothing in the files that I can see.

The confrontation with Murat. The one in which Amaral manages to confuse Fiona with Jane.

[pegasus]

Gerry McCann wrote in his blog on 11th July;

The Portuguese police interviewed three of our friends again today, to clarify points in their initial statements.

Which friends were they? There's nothing in the files that I can see.

FP RO ROB

[pegasus]

I have never been inside block 4 or block 5.

Thanks Shining. I had questions about whether or not there are doors on 3rd floor. And about the 5th floor door.

[Brietta]

Thanks Shining. I had questions about whether or not there are doors on 3rd floor. And about the 5th floor door.

There was access either by stairs or lift as far as the Moyes' apartment ... Mrs Moyes detailed in a Radio Stoke interview being wakened by someone at the door ...

SUSAN MOYES Sure. We went out for a meal about seven o’clock down in the town. We walked back about nine o’clock, round past, erm, the church, round past the supermarket, back to the apartment. Went out on the balcony about quarter past nine. Everywhere was peaceful, everywhere was lovely. We then went to bed. We were woken up at half past eleven at night by one of the friends of the McCanns to say a little girl had been abducted. Those were the words she used. So we got dressed and joined in the search. We were out till about four in the morning with, oooh, about I dont know, thirty people, thirty other people maybe. The Mark Warner team were out with other guests at the Ocean Club.

[ShiningInLuz]

Thanks Shining. I had questions about whether or not there are doors on 3rd floor. And about the 5th floor door.

If you would like to jot down your questions I can visit forearmed when I go walkabout.  It's easier than me simply having a look and possibly finding I didn't get the info you want.

[pathfinder73]

There was access either by stairs or lift as far as the Moyes' apartment ... Mrs Moyes detailed in a Radio Stoke interview being wakened by someone at the door ...

SUSAN MOYES Sure. We went out for a meal about seven o’clock down in the town. We walked back about nine o’clock, round past, erm, the church, round past the supermarket, back to the apartment. Went out on the balcony about quarter past nine. Everywhere was peaceful, everywhere was lovely. We then went to bed. We were woken up at half past eleven at night by one of the friends of the McCanns to say a little girl had been abducted. Those were the words she used. So we got dressed and joined in the search. We were out till about four in the morning with, oooh, about I dont know, thirty people, thirty other people maybe. The Mark Warner team were out with other guests at the Ocean Club.

Yes that fits with my theory. She was taken away before 9:15 and seen at just past 10. Work it out.

[G-Unit]

There was access either by stairs or lift as far as the Moyes' apartment ... Mrs Moyes detailed in a Radio Stoke interview being wakened by someone at the door ...

SUSAN MOYES Sure. We went out for a meal about seven o’clock down in the town. We walked back about nine o’clock, round past, erm, the church, round past the supermarket, back to the apartment. Went out on the balcony about quarter past nine. Everywhere was peaceful, everywhere was lovely. We then went to bed. We were woken up at half past eleven at night by one of the friends of the McCanns to say a little girl had been abducted. Those were the words she used. So we got dressed and joined in the search. We were out till about four in the morning with, oooh, about I dont know, thirty people, thirty other people maybe. The Mark Warner team were out with other guests at the Ocean Club.

I wonder who that was then? Not Kate or Fiona, they were in the apartment. Dianne was babysitting, and Jane had a child who was awake. It must have been Rachael. She went up all the stairs with Gerry, but that was at 10.30pm and she never mentioned knocking on doors. In fact the reason she went upstairs, she said, was to see if Madeleine had wandered up there.

[Brietta]

I wonder who that was then? Not Kate or Fiona, they were in the apartment. Dianne was babysitting, and Jane had a child who was awake. It must have been Rachael. She went up all the stairs with Gerry, but that was at 10.30pm and she never mentioned knocking on doors. In fact the reason she went upstairs, she said, was to see if Madeleine had wandered up there.

If the PJ had thought to interview Mr and Mrs Moyes we would have been able to ascertain exactly who raised the alarm with them.  The fact is, they were not interviewed or asked questions about the events of that evening.

[pegasus]

The third apartment was on the top floor of Block 4 (snip)

one of these 4 duplex penthouse apartments

[pegasus]

Observant viewers will have noticed that the 3rd floor (using UK convention) has no entry doors into apartments, and no walkways leading from the stairwell. From this can be deduced that the lift possibly skips that floor, stopping only at floors G 1 2 and 4.

[pegasus]

In photo (above) the stairs continue up one floor higher than the highest accomodation floor.
Here must be a utility room, not part of any apartment, which must contain at minimum the lift motor and gearbox.