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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #330 on: September 28, 2020, 09:21:52 AM »
I'm afraid that's not true. The phone allegedly used by CB could have been outside Luz, depending on the area covered by the Vodaphone mast.
Wolters said it activated a mast within Luz.  Is he lying again?  So what is the maximum distance away from the mast CB could have been? 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #331 on: September 28, 2020, 09:46:36 AM »
Wolters said it activated a mast within Luz.  Is he lying again?  So what is the maximum distance away from the mast CB could have been?
You would have to know so much about the phone system no one here could answer that IMO.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #332 on: September 28, 2020, 10:03:28 AM »
You would have to know so much about the phone system no one here could answer that IMO.
Yes, let's leave it to the expert investigators with access to all the relevant information - they say the ping puts CB in PdL in close proximity to Apartment 5a at the time of the abduction and no one in here is in any position of authority or knowledge to dispute that IMO.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #333 on: September 28, 2020, 10:08:32 AM »
Yes, let's leave it to the expert investigators with access to all the relevant information - they say the ping puts CB in PdL in close proximity to Apartment 5a at the time of the abduction and no one in here is in any position of authority or knowledge to dispute that IMO.
if they explained it fully we would attempt to understand it.   Remember how they tried to track where the airliner MH 370 ended up.  The scientist gave the world the data to analyse. 
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Offline The General

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #334 on: September 28, 2020, 10:24:17 AM »
You would have to know so much about the phone system no one here could answer that IMO.
Not really Rob, there's plenty of factual information available pertaining to historical mobile phone technology.
It's all pretty basic and in 2007 it was possible to discern whether someone had hastily deleted phone data.
Present day, with a warrant, it's possible to send a 'ping' to a known mobile and narrow it to a few metres.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #335 on: September 28, 2020, 10:31:08 AM »
Wolters said it activated a mast within Luz.  Is he lying again?  So what is the maximum distance away from the mast CB could have been?

8km.
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Offline The General

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #336 on: September 28, 2020, 10:39:51 AM »
8km.
8km radius. About 200 Km2
Plonk that circle on a map.
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Offline Lace

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #337 on: September 28, 2020, 10:40:37 AM »

Wrong ameral didn't get chance to prove his theory.

May end up the same with wolters.

Then what will u do

His book as you say were all facts of the case.   So Amaral had time to prove that Madeleine would have heard her father talking in the road to Jez.   That the McCann's had given her Calpol to 'help her sleep' .  that Kate faked an abduction and that they hid Madeleine's body.   None of which was proven in the time Amaral was still in charge.

Offline Lace

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #338 on: September 28, 2020, 10:43:49 AM »
I'm afraid that's not true. The phone allegedly used by CB could have been outside Luz, depending on the area covered by the Vodaphone mast.

I prefer to believe the experts,  as the German Police would have experts to deal with this.

Offline The General

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #339 on: September 28, 2020, 10:54:03 AM »
I prefer to believe the experts,  as the German Police would have experts to deal with this.
Only certain experts though, eh.
Martin Grime?
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Offline Brietta

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #340 on: September 28, 2020, 11:00:22 AM »
I prefer to believe the experts,  as the German Police would have experts to deal with this.

Everyone is an "expert" though when it comes to exactly what the McCanns and their friends were doing based on pings as exhaustively discussed in the files.
Every suspicious trip to the airport to pick people up and every antenna activated on the way there and on the way back.

We now know of burglars having activated masts in Luz at the relevant time of Madeleine's disappearance.  We now know of at least one paedophile whose phone activated masts in Luz.
None of them were checked out were they until reviews revealed information which was already slap bang and right in the face of Amaral's sloppy investigation proving exactly just how inadequate it really was.

Now what about these lies told about Brueckner ... anyone found one yet?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #341 on: September 28, 2020, 11:03:17 AM »
Only certain experts though, eh.
Martin Grime?

Actually having read the files and what Martin Grime had to say, imo it is you who appears to have the wrong end of the stick.
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"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #342 on: September 28, 2020, 11:07:53 AM »
Everyone is an "expert" though when it comes to exactly what the McCanns and their friends were doing based on pings as exhaustively discussed in the files.
Every suspicious trip to the airport to pick people up and every antenna activated on the way there and on the way back.

We now know of burglars having activated masts in Luz at the relevant time of Madeleine's disappearance.  We now know of at least one paedophile whose phone activated masts in Luz.
None of them were checked out were they until reviews revealed information which was already slap bang and right in the face of Amaral's sloppy investigation proving exactly just how inadequate it really was.

Now what about these lies told about Brueckner ... anyone found one yet?

The discussions on mobile phone masts is related to whether, as the MSM have said, it was possible to say that Brueckner was near 5A on 3rd May 2007. It wasn't.

If there are lawyers examining the media stories in the UK and Germany on his behalf then that could well be one story they will be documenting.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #343 on: September 28, 2020, 11:08:29 AM »
Wolters said it activated a mast within Luz.  Is he lying again?  So what is the maximum distance away from the mast CB could have been?
45 miles
A typical cellphone has enough power to reach a cell tower up to 45 miles away. Depending on the technology of the cellphone network, the maximum distance may be as low as 22 miles because the signal otherwise takes too long for the highly accurate timing of the cellphone protocol to work reliably.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #344 on: September 28, 2020, 11:11:43 AM »
If CB was 45 miles from home the night Madeleine was abducted he will no doubt be able to account for his movements, his alibi will check out, case closed.  If on the other hand any of his buddies have claimed hat he was in PdL that night, then it doesn't look so good.  HCW is obviously lying to us as well then, I wonder why a man of his standing would do such a wicked thing...?
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