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Offline G-Unit

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #420 on: September 30, 2020, 11:25:27 AM »
The title of this thread is misleading, imo. Telling a lie is a deliberate act and in my opinion the media have done what they always do; repeating stories without knowing or caring if they are rumour or truth. Having joined in the feeding frenzy for a while they now seem to be losing interest.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #421 on: September 30, 2020, 11:47:31 AM »
The title of this thread is misleading, imo. Telling a lie is a deliberate act and in my opinion the media have done what they always do; repeating stories without knowing or caring if they are rumour or truth. Having joined in the feeding frenzy for a while they now seem to be losing interest.

What gives you the impression that the media have lost interest?  Did you really expect a daily story in the papers four months after the story first broke?  The last media report was only a few days ago.  Would you prefer it if newspapers did not report opinions and first hand accounts from those with first hand experience of criminal suspects?  Most anecdotes are not proveable.  Should the media be silenced until a criminal is found guilty in a court of law in your opinion?  Which stories in the press do you believe to be untrue and therefore likely to be the subject of legal action by the suspect?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #422 on: September 30, 2020, 02:53:20 PM »
What gives you the impression that the media have lost interest?  Did you really expect a daily story in the papers four months after the story first broke?  The last media report was only a few days ago.  Would you prefer it if newspapers did not report opinions and first hand accounts from those with first hand experience of criminal suspects?  Most anecdotes are not proveable.  Should the media be silenced until a criminal is found guilty in a court of law in your opinion?  Which stories in the press do you believe to be untrue and therefore likely to be the subject of legal action by the suspect?

By reporting 'opinions and first hand accounts' the media don't clarify a subject, they cloud it imo. They give gossips, nosy neighbours, and people who have an axe to grind a platform (and sometimes payment) to say what they like about others. I don't class that as news, so I would prefer it if they showed some restraint.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #423 on: September 30, 2020, 03:36:37 PM »
By reporting 'opinions and first hand accounts' the media don't clarify a subject, they cloud it imo. They give gossips, nosy neighbours, and people who have an axe to grind a platform (and sometimes payment) to say what they like about others. I don't class that as news, so I would prefer it if they showed some restraint.

I think their lawyers check to make sure such restraint is applied which is probably why no-one has been able to point to a single lie about Brueckner in the media.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #424 on: September 30, 2020, 03:42:58 PM »
I think their lawyers check to make sure such restraint is applied which is probably why no-one has been able to point to a single lie about Brueckner in the media.

How can a lawyer check ????

Its CB himself who would know whether they were lies or not.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #425 on: September 30, 2020, 05:48:54 PM »
By reporting 'opinions and first hand accounts' the media don't clarify a subject, they cloud it imo. They give gossips, nosy neighbours, and people who have an axe to grind a platform (and sometimes payment) to say what they like about others. I don't class that as news, so I would prefer it if they showed some restraint.
So do online forums, do you wish they’d show similar restraint too, or don’t they count?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Lace

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #426 on: September 30, 2020, 05:51:24 PM »
By reporting 'opinions and first hand accounts' the media don't clarify a subject, they cloud it imo. They give gossips, nosy neighbours, and people who have an axe to grind a platform (and sometimes payment) to say what they like about others. I don't class that as news, so I would prefer it if they showed some restraint.

Unless all the gossip is about the McCann's then you'd believe every word.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #427 on: September 30, 2020, 06:15:36 PM »
The title of this thread is misleading, imo. Telling a lie is a deliberate act and in my opinion the media have done what they always do; repeating stories without knowing or caring if they are rumour or truth. Having joined in the feeding frenzy for a while they now seem to be losing interest.
Losing interest?  You’ll be pleased with this latest news story (though we can of couse dismiss as gossip, rumour and speculation because it’s in the Mirror)

Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B could be cleared of Irish woman’s rape as DNA doesn’t match crime scene
Nick Pisa30 Sep 2020,
POLICE investigating Madeleine McCann prime suspect Christian B over a rape case have suffered a blow after it emerged his DNA is not a match of that found at the scene.

The 43-year-old was identified as a suspect into Maddie's disappearance in Praia da Luz, Portugal in 2007.

The DNA found at the scene of the rape did not match Christian B's
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The DNA found at the scene of the rape did not match Christian B'sCredit: Bild
Hazel Behan waived her right for anonymity to the Guardian in June
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Hazel Behan waived her right for anonymity to the Guardian in JuneCredit: RTE
Two weeks ago, police revealed they were looking into Christian B for the rape of Irish tour rep Hazel Behan back in 2004.

The 37-year-old was tied up and attacked in Praia da Rocha, just three years before Maddie was snatched.

After carrying out tests on the traces found at the scene of the attack, forensic police have said they do not match that of Christian B.

A source close to the case said: "There is no evidence at the moment that links B to this rape.

"Officers have looked hard but at the moment there is nothing concrete we can use.

''It was decided the case should be looked at because of the similarities with the American woman but at the moment we cannot pin it on him at all.''


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In another blow to investigators, Ms Behan told police that the man who raped her had a "birthmark" on his upper right thigh but photographs taken of Christian B by German police show no such mark exists.

German prosecutors decided to look into the case after Christian B was convicted last December of raping a 72-year-old American woman in her own home at Praia da Luz in 2005.

The American victim was beaten with a razor-sharp sword after the fiend broke into her villa during a horrifying 15-minute ordeal.

He also bound, gagged and tortured her during the sex attack and she told police: “I feared I was going to die.”


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She told how she was tied up and filmed by her attacker - similar to what Ms Behan described.

Christian B escaped justice for 12 years before he was nailed by DNA evidence taken from a hair at the scene.

Ms Behan, who waived her anonymity to the Guardian, was gagged and raped in her apartment in 2004 but the culprit was never caught.

Hazel told the newspaper: "My mind was blown when I read how he had attacked a woman in 2005, both the tactics and the methods he used, the tools he had with him, how well he had planned it out.

“I puked, to be honest with you, reading about it took me right back to my experience."

His lawyer Friedrich Fulscher has insisted that Christian B had nothing to do with the horrific sex attack or Maddie's abduction and accused German police of ''chasing up a blind alley''.

HORRIFIC ORDEAL

According to Portuguese court documents, Hazel reported to local police that she had been raped in June 2004, when she was 20 years old.

She woke up to a man she did not know in her hotel room.

Hazel told police he was wearing black gloves and a hood and was standing next to her with a knife to her neck.

He raped her on a table and tied her up with rope, took photographs of her and cut her clothes with scissors.

Christian B is currently in a prison in Kiel serving a 21-month sentence for drug dealing but is now eligible for parole.

Last week the European Court of Justice threw out an appeal he made claiming his arrest in Italy in 2018 breached European Arrest Warrant protocols meaning he will have to serve at least two-thirds of the seven-year sentence he was given for the 2005 rape.


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Maddie disappeared in 2007 from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz and German prosecutors say they have mobile phone data placing him at the scene just before she vanished.

He also has convictions for child abuse and theft.

Police are said to be relying on information from key witnesses who have told them B admitted to being responsible for her abduction.

Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told The Sun: "I'm not allowed to comment on anything on this investigation.'
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline jassi

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #428 on: September 30, 2020, 06:21:50 PM »
Interesting how people had him pegged for this rape, when it appears that he may not have anything to do with it.
Give a dog a bad name and all that.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #429 on: September 30, 2020, 06:23:35 PM »
Interesting how people had him pegged for this rape, when it appears that he may not have anything to do with it.
Give a dog a bad name and all that.
Who pegged him for this rape?  One the face of it he seemed a strong contender but I don’t think anyone here has claimed he definitely did it have they?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #430 on: September 30, 2020, 06:27:04 PM »
The strange thing about this latest report is - I thought we were told all the DNA evidence had been destroyed?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline G-Unit

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #431 on: September 30, 2020, 06:52:25 PM »
So do online forums, do you wish they’d show similar restraint too, or don’t they count?

That's a different subject.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #432 on: September 30, 2020, 07:18:54 PM »
That's a different subject.
OK, back on track - do you disapprove of investigative journalism which often relies on interviewing sources (often unnamed) but which can reveal great truths which may otherwise remain covered up?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline G-Unit

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #433 on: September 30, 2020, 09:06:14 PM »
OK, back on track - do you disapprove of investigative journalism which often relies on interviewing sources (often unnamed) but which can reveal great truths which may otherwise remain covered up?

There have been some excellent investigative journalists over the years who have taken the time to investigate cases in depth and have found evidence which withstood criticism. I can't think of any at the moment though.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #434 on: September 30, 2020, 09:14:49 PM »
I think their lawyers check to make sure such restraint is applied which is probably why no-one has been able to point to a single lie about Brueckner in the media.

Then why were the parents and their friends paid so much by the Express and several other newspapers ? Didn’t they have lawyers to help them show ‘restraint’.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?