All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner

[Venturi Swirl]

There have been some excellent investigative journalists over the years who have taken the time to investigate cases in depth and have found evidence which withstood criticism. I can't think of any at the moment though.

you didn’t really answer the question did you? 

[Anthro]

There have been some excellent investigative journalists over the years who have taken the time to investigate cases in depth and have found evidence which withstood criticism. I can't think of any at the moment though.

Sandra F may just surprise us all.

[G-Unit]

you didn’t really answer the question did you?

In my opinion I did.

[Venturi Swirl]

In my opinion I did.

Not in my opinion you didn’t.  In my opinion you did not give a straight answer to a straight question.

[sadie]

The strange thing about this latest report is - I thought we were told all the DNA evidence had been destroyed?

Touchee, VS.  Well spotted.

So what do we make of this?

Someone altering the evidence ?

Who? and Why?

[Venturi Swirl]

Touchee, VS.  Well spotted.

So what do we make of this?

Someone altering the evidence ?

Who? and Why?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8442487/Portuguese-prosecutors-DESTROYED-vital-DNA-evidence.html
Perhaps Amaral found some at the back of a dusty filing cabinet and handed it over to get his pal’s client Bruckner off the hook

[sadie]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8442487/Portuguese-prosecutors-DESTROYED-vital-DNA-evidence.html
Perhaps Amaral found some at the back of a dusty filing cabinet and handed it over to get his pal’s client Bruckner off the hook

Do you think that the DNA was someone elses, being as all the rapists DNA was officially, IIRC, reported to have been destroyed?   Why would that be?

Anyone got any ideas why a substitution might have been made ?


Hmm 

[G-Unit]

Please remember to post on topic. Thank you. 

[barrier]

So is the latest news that in all likelihood the German suspect in the Madeleine case is ruled out of the rape case against the Irish woman because his DNA does not match all lies, or was the tale about the DNA being destroyed lies,pays your money takes your choice.Hook or by crook it seems someone one wants to link CB to all manner of cases.

[Brietta]

So is the latest news that in all likelihood the German suspect in the Madeleine case is ruled out of the rape case against the Irish woman because his DNA does not match all lies, or was the tale about the DNA being destroyed lies,pays your money takes your choice.Hook or by crook it seems someone one wants to link CB to all manner of cases.

Telling how she was woken at 1am by the sound of someone calling her name who then removed her clothes with scissors and gagged her with cloth, she said: 'My mind was blown when I read how he had attacked a woman in 2005, both the tactics and the methods he used, the tools he had with him, how well he had planned it out.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8442487/Portuguese-prosecutors-DESTROYED-vital-DNA-evidence.html

We have no idea in what circumstances the rape which occurred in Praia da Luz for which Brueckner was prosecuted and found guilty by the Germans was not linked to the later rape by the Portuguese despite the matching MO being used.

I believe Ms Behan was told regarding the similar assault carried out on her that it was "bad for tourism".

What it does appear to show is that the Portuguese authorities have an innate inability to link any two similar cases in crime checks.
Much as they failed to do with missing little girls one from Figueira and the other from Luz both of whom vanished without trace.

In my opinion there have been plenty of lies told in the media fed by leaks in both these cases (aided and abetted by a book by Cristovao on one and a book by Amaral on the other).  To date I have not seen Brueckner being subjected to the same treatment.
Wonder what I'm missing.

[Lace]

So is the latest news that in all likelihood the German suspect in the Madeleine case is ruled out of the rape case against the Irish woman because his DNA does not match all lies, or was the tale about the DNA being destroyed lies,pays your money takes your choice.Hook or by crook it seems someone one wants to link CB to all manner of cases.

This woman came forward after reading about the rape that CB has been found guilty of.   She said there were similarities in her case.   The case was reopened.   No one knew if  CB was guilty of this as it hadn't been proven,  they said there was no DNA,  now suddenly there is DNA.  Strange.

[G-Unit]

So is the latest news that in all likelihood the German suspect in the Madeleine case is ruled out of the rape case against the Irish woman because his DNA does not match all lies, or was the tale about the DNA being destroyed lies,pays your money takes your choice.Hook or by crook it seems someone one wants to link CB to all manner of cases.

This is what the media said;

But today it emerged the DNA evidence collected from the crime scene was destroyed around two months before Madeleine's disappearance, meaning the chance of making any solid link between the two cases if the same offender was responsible could now prove impossible.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8442487/Portuguese-prosecutors-DESTROYED-vital-DNA-evidence.html

This is what was actually destroyed;

'On March 15 2007 when the judge decides to archive the investigation, the Public Ministry decide any biological material should be destroyed.

They add: 'As they are in a bad condition it is improbable that if this re-investigation was reopened the material could be subjected to counterproof analysis.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8442487/Portuguese-prosecutors-DESTROYED-vital-DNA-evidence.html

They did find DNA;

The documents make it clear DNA was obtained but no match.

So did they destroy this DNA? No, they destroyed the source of the DNA. The DNA profile(s) they obtained would have been recorded in reports and those reports were not destroyed.

It's normal to destroy the samples; the FSS were suggesting they were going to destroy the biological samples in the McCann case very early on, but they kept the results.

[Lace]

This is what the media said;

But today it emerged the DNA evidence collected from the crime scene was destroyed around two months before Madeleine's disappearance, meaning the chance of making any solid link between the two cases if the same offender was responsible could now prove impossible.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8442487/Portuguese-prosecutors-DESTROYED-vital-DNA-evidence.html

This is what was actually destroyed;

'On March 15 2007 when the judge decides to archive the investigation, the Public Ministry decide any biological material should be destroyed.

They add: 'As they are in a bad condition it is improbable that if this re-investigation was reopened the material could be subjected to counterproof analysis.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8442487/Portuguese-prosecutors-DESTROYED-vital-DNA-evidence.html

They did find DNA;

The documents make it clear DNA was obtained but no match.

So did they destroy this DNA? No, they destroyed the source of the DNA. The DNA profile(s) they obtained would have been recorded in reports and those reports were not destroyed.

It's normal to destroy the samples; the FSS were suggesting they were going to destroy the biological samples in the McCann case very early on, but they kept the results.

What if the samples were hairs?

[G-Unit]

What if the samples were hairs?

I don't know what happens in Portugal, because they're not mentioned, but in England they appear to be returned to the police;

The destruction of other, non-perishable personal samples is required by Section 64 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act. These include:

- Control head hair samples.
- Control pubic hair samples.
- Finger nail samples.
- Casts- e.g of teeth or feet.

Except as below those non-perishable personal samples are returned to you as parts of exhibits for production at court, etc. The laboratory is not responsible for their destruction.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_LOWE.htm

[Anthro]

Telling how she was woken at 1am by the sound of someone calling her name who then removed her clothes with scissors and gagged her with cloth, she said: 'My mind was blown when I read how he had attacked a woman in 2005, both the tactics and the methods he used, the tools he had with him, how well he had planned it out.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8442487/Portuguese-prosecutors-DESTROYED-vital-DNA-evidence.html

We have no idea in what circumstances the rape which occurred in Praia da Luz for which Brueckner was prosecuted and found guilty by the Germans was not linked to the later rape by the Portuguese despite the matching MO being used.

I believe Ms Behan was told regarding the similar assault carried out on her that it was "bad for tourism".

What it does appear to show is that the Portuguese authorities have an innate inability to link any two similar cases in crime checks.
Much as they failed to do with missing little girls one from Figueira and the other from Luz both of whom vanished without trace.

In my opinion there have been plenty of lies told in the media fed by leaks in both these cases (aided and abetted by a book by Cristovao on one and a book by Amaral on the other).  To date I have not seen Brueckner being subjected to the same treatment.
Wonder what I'm missing.

Also the following, Brietta:
“Hazel Behan ... filed a complaint for a violation almost identical to that of Diana Menkes except that at Praia da Rocha in this development near the Casino where Christian Brueckner had a customer card."
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