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Offline G-Unit

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #465 on: October 01, 2020, 04:32:41 PM »
Therefore he had known close proximity to both rape crime scenes and plenty of opportunity to watch and wait at both without any casual observer thinking a thing about seeing him there.

If anyone had any suspicion and had challenged him as a result, he was legitimately on a beach path leading to his home and in an hotel in which he had membership of the casino.  Absolutely bomb proof explanations in both instances.

A beach path leading to his home? Where was that then?

Was the Irish woman raped in the Hotel which housed the Casino?
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« Reply #466 on: October 01, 2020, 05:05:35 PM »
A beach path leading to his home? Where was that then?

Was the Irish woman raped in the Hotel which housed the Casino?
Surely Brietta is referring to D Menkes’ property at the end of Brückner’s path leading to her home ‘Casa Jacaranda’ and the beach.

Offline faithlilly

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #467 on: October 01, 2020, 05:25:01 PM »
They won't know who might be in the frame for the vicious rape until they have checked out all the evidence and I doubt very much if he would have left much since he came well prepared.

Not all police are like the Portuguese who don't seem to attach too much importance to thoroughly investigating crimes such as this or treating the victims with appropriate sensibility.
Whether the perpetrator is thought to be Brueckner or another pervert entirely I think the Germans will take the investigation as far as it will go in the interests of justice.

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Ms Behan’s attacker, who removed his shoes at the door and set up a video camera in the room, told her not to scream. He dragged her into the living area and tied her to the countertop of the breakfast bar, before producing a bag of whips and chains. Using scissors to remove her clothes, he gagged her with cloth so she could not scream, and proceeded to beat and rape her.

She said: “It seemed to me he had worked everything out, he had a plan and was very deliberate. He consistently cleaned his hands, and repeatedly changed condoms. This went on, I guess, for around four or five hours.
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Ms Behan was taken to the local hospital where a gynaecologist examined her, but she does not know if any forensic evidence was taken. She says no attempt was made to examine her wounds for evidence. When she returned to the room several days later with her parents, “my Mam found a nail of mine on the bed which must have come off in the initial scuffle. So I am not very confident that they examined the room closely.”

Ms Behan added: “I had little hope over the last 16 years that they would find the man who did this. I was told at the time that I should just be quiet, that if I talked about what had happened I would bring bad publicity to the resort and put off the tourists.

“Then I read about the poor American woman who was raped in September 2005 - who I would love to talk to - and the possible link that was being made between her attack and the person who abducted Madeleine McCann, and I was so full of anger, I knew in my gut it was the right thing to do to speak out.

“I think if the police had done their job investigating what happened to me, if this is indeed the same man that attacked the American and abducted Madeleine McCann, they might have prevented the attack on her, and Madeleine would now be at home with her parents.”


German police and London’s Metropolitan police are thought to have identified the German man as a key suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance. They have appealed to the public for any information and have received about 400 calls.

Ms Behan, who lives in Ireland with her husband and two children, has given a statement to the UK’s Met, who informed her they were taking her case seriously and would be contacting Portuguese police. Ms Behan said the Met had informed her that other people had contacted them independently about her attack.

“They offered everything they can do to help me,” she said. “It’s the first time in 16 years that I’ve been offered any help from an official. I live in hope of finally getting closure on an extremely difficult chapter in my life.” She added: “Speaking out about this is difficult, but in my gut I feel it is the right thing to do.”

The Met would not comment on Ms Behan’s case but the force reiterated its appeal for “anyone with information to come forward and speak with us”. Portuguese police have not responded to a request for comment.– Guardian
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/irish-rape-victim-asks-mccann-detectives-to-review-her-case-after-hearing-about-new-suspect-1.4274446

Obviously forensics were taken as Brueckner’s DNA has been ruled out. It’s surprising the victim didn’t know this.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #468 on: October 01, 2020, 06:29:15 PM »
Obviously forensics were taken as Brueckner’s DNA has been ruled out. It’s surprising the victim didn’t know this.

Not surprising at all.  It is only now that the German investigation has checked the evidence out that we have learned anything; the victim couldn't be expected to know anything till then.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Lace

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #469 on: October 01, 2020, 06:30:12 PM »
Well it looks as if CB is not responsible, nor has she got closure.


Well she knows CB isn't responsible now doesn't she,  she didn't before they investigated her case,  you can't blame her for wanting to know one way or the other.  No she hasn't got closure as you point out,  poor woman.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #470 on: October 01, 2020, 06:34:26 PM »


Well she knows CB isn't responsible now doesn't she,  she didn't before they investigated her case,  you can't blame her for wanting to know one way or the other.  No she hasn't got closure as you point out,  poor woman.
Nor is she ever likely to now.  Of course some sceptics elsewhere think she made the whole thing up, which is par for the course, but quite illogical when you think about it. 
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Anthro

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #471 on: October 01, 2020, 07:19:22 PM »


Well she knows CB isn't responsible now doesn't she,  she didn't before they investigated her case,  you can't blame her for wanting to know one way or the other.  No she hasn't got closure as you point out,  poor woman.
Indeed Lace. This is Hazel B’s description of her ordeal:

"With her hands still tied and naked, Hazel ran from her apartment and was helped by a group of men returning from a night out. They gave her their clothes so she could cover herself."

It's also worth noting her conviction prior to the assault that someone had been in her apartment on previous occasions.

"She lived in an flat in the hotel where she worked. She felt uneasy there but put it down to being on her own.

“I felt as if somebody had been in my room. I don’t know why. I just did,” she said.

Soon after, she discovered that the money she had saved up for her parent’s visit had been stolen and her possessions had been moved."

Offline faithlilly

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #472 on: October 01, 2020, 07:49:16 PM »
Not surprising at all.  It is only now that the German investigation has checked the evidence out that we have learned anything; the victim couldn't be expected to know anything till then.

Are you really trying to suggest that the Portuguese police took the victim to a gynaecologist and that gynaecologist didn’t take any intimate samples ? That those same police went to the victim’s house and didn’t carry out forensic searches ? The forensic material for comparison must have come from somewhere. If not from the victim herself or her house where do you think it came from ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline G-Unit

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #473 on: October 01, 2020, 08:49:19 PM »
Surely Brietta is referring to D Menkes’ property at the end of Brückner’s path leading to her home ‘Casa Jacaranda’ and the beach.

I'm afraid I don't know where CB was living in 2005. I thought it was outside PdL.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #474 on: October 01, 2020, 11:00:27 PM »
I'm afraid I don't know where CB was living in 2005. I thought it was outside PdL.

It is certain that Brueckner lived a peripatetic lifestyle while based in the Algarve but at the time of the rape of the American woman he was resident in the nearby farmhouse marked on the map.

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The rundown farmhouse where Christian Brueckner lived in Praia da Luz is close to where Kate and Gerry McCann went on daily jogs after Madeleine vanished in 2007.

It is also a stone’s throw from where British police teams and cadaver dogs searched for the youngster in 2014.
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Neighbours told the Mirror that they remembered Brueckner living at the property,
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Police are reportedly searching for Brueckner’s ex-girlfriend, who lived with him in the house until 2006.
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“In 2006, my neighbour contacted me in the UK to say the house had been left ramshackle with no sign of occupancy.

“We reported the disappearance to the police and discovered he may have been arrested.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-22140677
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #475 on: October 02, 2020, 12:57:23 AM »
I always thought he lived in the blue windowed house in Monte Judeu until he was jailed in 2006.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB0QAm1e5Co
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #476 on: October 02, 2020, 09:53:24 AM »
I always thought he lived in the blue windowed house in Monte Judeu until he was jailed in 2006.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB0QAm1e5Co

I think this may be part of the problem the police may have had/are having in pinning down his whereabouts.  I don't think he led a conventional lifestyle.
He is also reported as having lived in his camper van and seems to have wandered about quite a bit in Portugal and neighbouring countries.  But I think it would be safe to say that he knew Luz like the back of his hand.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #477 on: October 02, 2020, 10:50:37 AM »
I'm sure a lot of people do. It doesn't seem to be a particularly large place.



















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Offline Brietta

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #478 on: October 02, 2020, 12:20:36 PM »
I'm sure a lot of people do. It doesn't seem to be a particularly large place.

Quite.

When one is in his line of business I imagine it is as well to know every nook and cranny there is. 

For example dark areas to stand in unobserved while surveying all around.
The quickest and most unobtrusive lanes connecting one to the other either for escaping on foot or to a vehicle.  And a host of other things a casual observer would never know ... but which individuals like him would.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner
« Reply #479 on: October 02, 2020, 12:27:28 PM »
Quite.

When one is in his line of business I imagine it is as well to know every nook and cranny there is. 

For example dark areas to stand in unobserved while surveying all around.
The quickest and most unobtrusive lanes connecting one to the other either for escaping on foot or to a vehicle.  And a host of other things a casual observer would never know ... but which individuals like him would.

Well I would think being there a week would surface to know your way around in a very small complex.