All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner

[Nicholas]

Barry George won damages against the media for suggesting that he killed Jill Dando.

This is a myth

Payment was made ‘over false harassment claims‘ https://www.5rb.com/news/barry-george-wins-libel-damages/

Mr George said: “I am pleased that the matter between me and News Group Newspapers has been amicably settled following successful mediation and without the need for litigation.”

[Nicholas]

What year did Barry George win his damages?  I think the law has changed since then, and as I quoted above the claimant has to prove serious harm to his reputation, in any case was this not after he had been acquitted and did they not make up false quotes attributed to him?

It’s been suggested Barry George said ‘talking’ not ‘stalking’

Michelle Diskin Bates claims in her book ‘Stand Against Injustice’ her brother has a ‘lisp’ and said talking not stalking.

In 2010 payment was made after it was

amicably settled following successful mediation and without the need for litigation.”[/i]

‘August 2008 - ‘Barry George: I didn't kill Jill Dando because I was stalking ANOTHER woman at the time‘
‘In an interview with the News of the World, Mr George insisted that at the time Miss Dando was murdered he was following another woman after leaving a disability centre in Fulham, West London.

Miss Dando was shot dead on her doorstep in Fulham at around 11.30am on April 26, 1999.

Between 10.30am and 12.33pm that day, Mr George claimed, he was either at the centre or walking beside the woman.

‘I walked with her for a bit and, from her perspective, maybe it was unwanted attention. But she didn’t make that clear,’ he said. ‘It didn’t seem like she was telling me to go away. If she’d told me to leave I’d have done so straight away.

'That was at 12.33pm. I know because just a minute before I’d made a call from my mobile to check how much credit I had left.’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1041009/Barry-George-I-didnt-kill-Jill-Dando-I-stalking-ANOTHER-woman-time.html


August 2008 - Stalking made me suspect - George
‘The man cleared of murdering BBC TV presenter Jill Dando has said his past behaviour of pestering women fuelled police suspicions about him.
And Barry George, 48, told the News of the World he could not have killed Miss Dando because he was following another woman at the time.
But in another interview with the Sunday Mirror, he said he was a changed man and would no longer follow women.
Mr George has consistently denied shooting Miss Dando in 1999.
He was acquitted by an Old Bailey jury on Friday after a retrial.
On his past stalking, Mr George told the News of the World: "I know I have done wrong in the past and if I could go back in time and change that I would."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7539258.stm

[Mr Gray]

I remember pointing out gunits mistake at the time..and of course despite his court victory Barry has not been declared innocent

[Nicholas]

If this is true

It’s not true

This is a myth

Payment was made ‘over false harassment claims‘ https://www.5rb.com/news/barry-george-wins-libel-damages/

Mr George said: “I am pleased that the matter between me and News Group Newspapers has been amicably settled following successful mediation and without the need for litigation.”

[Nicholas]

The false accusation was accusing him of admitting to being a stalker

Do you think Barry George said ‘talking’ or ‘stalking’ ?

Payment was made ‘over false harassment claims‘ https://www.5rb.com/news/barry-george-wins-libel-damages/

Surjit Singh Clair represented Barry George during this time http://effectivemedialtd.com/


‘The judge said Clair's behaviour was worse because he tried to make a "significant personal profit" by selling the story. The Express newspaper agreed to pay £6,000 to Clair for the tale of the attack, but the money was never handed over after police became suspicious of Cotter's claims.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/olympian-s-boyfriend-jailed-fake-attack-9131683.html

“The story of extreme racial prejudice appalled the country. But it was not true.

Cotter had set up the assault himself in a bizarre plan to revive the couple's relationship. The plot backfired when a jury at Birmingham crown court found him and his co-defendants, Craig Wynn and Surjit Singh Clair, guilty of conspiring to pervert the course of justice.

Not only did he waste weeks of police time, but he made the woman he hoped to marry fear for her life.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jun/09/race.world1

[Robittybob1]

Do you think Barry George said ‘talking’ or ‘stalking’ ?

Surjit Singh Clair represented Barry George during this time http://effectivemedialtd.com/


‘The judge said Clair's behaviour was worse because he tried to make a "significant personal profit" by selling the story. The Express newspaper agreed to pay £6,000 to Clair for the tale of the attack, but the money was never handed over after police became suspicious of Cotter's claims.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/olympian-s-boyfriend-jailed-fake-attack-9131683.html

Talking is followed by to in a sentence.  You can be caught "stalking" or "talking to" another woman.

[Mr Gray]

Do you think Barry George said ‘talking’ or ‘stalking’ ?

Surjit Singh Clair represented Barry George during this time http://effectivemedialtd.com/


‘The judge said Clair's behaviour was worse because he tried to make a "significant personal profit" by selling the story. The Express newspaper agreed to pay £6,000 to Clair for the tale of the attack, but the money was never handed over after police became suspicious of Cotter's claims.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/olympian-s-boyfriend-jailed-fake-attack-9131683.html

The point I made and will make again is that Barry george never received damages becasue newspaers reported he was  asuspect in the Dando murder...thats what gunit tried to show. In the same way saying CB is  a suspect in the McCann case is not libellous.


Barry  George received damages because the papers reported a statement they claimed he had made which they had no proof he made.

“The headline for the article was ‘I didn’t kill Jill Dando… I was stalking someone else at the time’. The defendant accepts that Mr George never made that statement.”

[Nicholas]

Talking is followed by to in a sentence.  You can be caught "stalking" or "talking to" another woman.

Michelle Diskin Bates states in her book Stand Against Injustice:

“On Sunday, the News of the World ran the story and it was a hatchet job. Barry’s piece was fine, except for the headline . . . ‘I couldn’t have done it, I was stalking another woman at the time!’
Barry absolutely did not say this. We’d been there the entire time, we’d gone over everything. Barry told them, “I couldn’t have killed Jill Dando. I was talking with another woman at the time.” Actually, he was wrong. When Ms Dando was killed, Barry was at the HAFAD centre.

Believe of the above what you will.

I tend not to believe anything Michelle Diskin Bates says. She claims to have watched things unfold at White House Farm on TV the night Jeremy Bamber murdered his family - even though night time TV didn’t start up until a year after the murders.

[Nicholas]

The point I made and will make again is that Barry george never received damages becasue newspaers reported he was  asuspect in the Dando murder...thats what gunit tried to show. In the same way saying CB is  a suspect in the McCann case is not libellous.


Barry  George received damages because the papers reported a statement they claimed he had made which they had no proof he made.

“The headline for the article was ‘I didn’t kill Jill Dando… I was stalking someone else at the time’. The defendant accepts that Mr George never made that statement.”

Fair point

Re ‘stalking’ or ‘talking’ - Suspect Barry George was referring to ‘talking’ to Julia Moorhouse after he’d shot
Jill Dando.

Michael Bourke
“Outside the courtroom I spoke with Mr Clegg and Samuels. We discussed Julia Moorhouse, the women who described being spoken to by a man who could have been Barry approx an hour after Jill Dando’s murder. I felt her description of the man was too like Barry to be coincidence, and as she reported the meeting to the police straight away on that day it sounded genuine.
We agreed the man she met probably was Barry but disagreed as to whether they met before of after he had visited HAFAD. The Crown claimed before, which would support their case.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ltgorwROQfwC&pg=PA191&lpg=PA191&dq=julia+moorhoise+barry+george&source=bl&ots=Osy93KB1cB&sig=ACfU3U0FTXfq_4eMlR8wsXOK6kqzD1zjZQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiNlMqAqObhAhXbURUIHaD5DjkQ6AEwA3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=julia%20moorhoise%20barry%20george&f=false

May 2001
‘A woman has told the Jill Dando murder trial that, shortly after the shooting, she had a conversation with a man whom the prosecution alleges shot the TV presenter.
Julia Moorehouse said that, at 12.30pm on the day of the shooting, the man crossed the road to talk to her about the police helicopters they had seen in the sky.
The conversation happened an hour after Jill Dando was shot. Ms Moorehouse said that the man appeared to have a technical knowledge of the helicopters and mentioned the Territorial Army.
The prosecution has alleged that Barry George, the man accused of Dando's murder, was obsessed with the army and weapons.
Ms Moorehouse described the man as being in his 30s, nearly 6ft tall, relatively heavy in build, paunchy and with very dark hair. He was also wearing a bright yellow jacket. The prosecution alleged that he had changed his clothes.
She said: "I was left with the impression that he might have had at some point a hare-lip or cleft palate at some time which had been mended."
She added that she rang the police when she heard Dando had been attacked
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/may/14/jilldando

‘Michael Mansfield, QC, defending, said the man Mrs Moorhouse had spoken to was not George.‘
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2001/may/15/broadcasting.jilldando

[G-Unit]

This is a myth

Payment was made ‘over false harassment claims‘ https://www.5rb.com/news/barry-george-wins-libel-damages/

Mr George said: “I am pleased that the matter between me and News Group Newspapers has been amicably settled following successful mediation and without the need for litigation.”

News Group has now admitted that the articles "would have been understood to mean that there were grounds to suspect Mr George of the murder despite his acquittal. (They) accept that the verdict of the second jury in acquitting Mr George was correct and it apologises to Mr George for any suggestion otherwise."
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/dec/16/barry-george-news-of-world

[Nicholas]

News Group has now admitted that the articles "would have been understood to mean that there were grounds to suspect Mr George of the murder despite his acquittal. (They) accept that the verdict of the second jury in acquitting Mr George was correct and it apologises to Mr George for any suggestion otherwise."
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/dec/16/barry-george-news-of-world

Sandra Laville has taken the above (Highlighted in red) from here https://www.5rb.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/George-v-News-Group-SIOC-16-Dec-2009.pdf

Payment was made ‘over false harassment claims‘ https://www.5rb.com/news/barry-george-wins-libel-damages/

Mr George said: “I am pleased that the matter between me and News Group Newspapers has been amicably settled following successful mediation and without the need for litigation.”

[sadie]

I imagine that if the Germans failed to charge CB & he embarked on a defamation claim against various media outlets he'd have less financial support than Malinka when the latter wanted to publish a book. CB's actions would cause no harm to (or even involve) the McCanns, which is the main incentive for those who contributed to Amaral's "defence" fund.
IMO the reason for German police not sharing the concrete evidence they have with SY or PJ is because such evidence shows others who were present just prior to or at the time the alleged murder was committed.

Interesting, Misty.

I hadn't thought of that.   So, IYO, some people (important people?) are being covered for?   Protected ?

[Nicholas]

Surjit Singh Clair represented Barry George during this time http://effectivemedialtd.com/


‘The judge said Clair's behaviour was worse because he tried to make a "significant personal profit" by selling the story. The Express newspaper agreed to pay £6,000 to Clair for the tale of the attack, but the money was never handed over after police became suspicious of Cotter's claims.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/olympian-s-boyfriend-jailed-fake-attack-9131683.html

Oh dear
http://effectivemedialtd.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Interesting, Misty.

I hadn't thought of that.   So, IYO, some people (important people?) are being covered for?   Protected ?

Perhaps they just don't have any concrete evidence. If they did CB would have been charged. The parents are remarkably quiet about this current situation, imo.

[Snowgirl]

Perhaps they just don't have any concrete evidence. If they did CB would have been charged. The parents are remarkably quiet about this current situation, imo.

The parents will be because they believe Madeleine's alive and can be found and I expect they have their  two other children to keep buoyed up with this ?
 Didn't they say some time ago that they hadn't been contacted by the German  prosecutor ?
 Despite one of the ex girlfriends claiming he told her he knew what had happened to Madeleine ,that's  a whole different ballgame to being a child killer .