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Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3795 on: November 19, 2018, 02:04:10 PM »
Rereading this there’s something that is strange about this story.

In May the McCanns, so we are told, were asked by SY not to do any interviews around the 11th anniversay as it may jeopardise ongoing investigations. So who is talking to the newspapers now ? Surely SY, after silencing the parents would not release details, however obscure, of the investigation, the HO likewise but that only leaves the parents, and we know they were asked by SY not to divulge investigation details to the public.

Questions, questions !!

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A Whitehall source told the Daily Mail: “Metropolitan Police officers had a sit-down meeting with Madeleine's parents to tell them exactly where they were with their inquiries.

“They informed them they had two specific and active leads that still needed to be chased and that although the investigation was taking longer than they initially thought officers said they were confident and hopeful they could get a result.”

A senior Government source added: “Police seeking special grant funding have needed to justify exactly what the money would be spent on, who they are chasing and why.

“They have had to outline their intended work in full detail and careful consideration has been given but we cannot divulge any aspects of that while there is an ongoing operation.”
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/new-madeleine-mccann-hope-police-15431891


Seems normal for government civil servants not to be named in communications with the press ... if you have a complaint about that why not contact the departments concerned?


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A Home Office spokesman said: “We have confirmed that Special Grant funding of £150,000 will be provided to the Metropolitan Police Service for the six-month period to 31 March 2019.”
http://theportugalnews.com/news/madeleine-uk-police-handed-more-cash/47510
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3796 on: November 19, 2018, 02:20:28 PM »
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A Whitehall source told the Daily Mail: “Metropolitan Police officers had a sit-down meeting with Madeleine's parents to tell them exactly where they were with their inquiries.

“They informed them they had two specific and active leads that still needed to be chased and that although the investigation was taking longer than they initially thought officers said they were confident and hopeful they could get a result.”

A senior Government source added: “Police seeking special grant funding have needed to justify exactly what the money would be spent on, who they are chasing and why.

“They have had to outline their intended work in full detail and careful consideration has been given but we cannot divulge any aspects of that while there is an ongoing operation.”
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/new-madeleine-mccann-hope-police-15431891


Seems normal for government civil servants not to be named in communications with the press ... if you have a complaint about that why not contact the departments concerned?


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A Home Office spokesman said: “We have confirmed that Special Grant funding of £150,000 will be provided to the Metropolitan Police Service for the six-month period to 31 March 2019.”
http://theportugalnews.com/news/madeleine-uk-police-handed-more-cash/47510

It seems normal ? How so ?

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3797 on: November 19, 2018, 04:54:04 PM »
Rereading this there’s something that is strange about this story.

In May the McCanns, so we are told, were asked by SY not to do any interviews around the 11th anniversay as it may jeopardise ongoing investigations. So who is talking to the newspapers now ? Surely SY, after silencing the parents would not release details, however obscure, of the investigation, the HO likewise but that only leaves the parents, and we know they were asked by SY not to divulge investigation details to the public.

Questions, questions !!
The article says who divulged the information does it not?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Eleanor

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3798 on: November 19, 2018, 04:57:15 PM »
The article says who divulged the information does it not?

It doesn't appear to have been The McCanns or their Sources.

Offline Sunny

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3799 on: November 19, 2018, 04:57:45 PM »
It looks like we are back to the woman in purple being one of the leads (well according to Tracy Kandohla).

Madeleine McCann BREAKTHROUGH: New woman in purple lead over Maddie disappearance
SCOTLAND Yard detectives working on the disappearance of Madeleine McCann are pursuing two leads.
By TRACEY KANDOHLA, EXCLUSIVE

The Operation Grange team had been thought to be focusing on just one. But it has now emerged they have two "specific and active" lines of inquiry. And the Home Office last week announced it would give a further £150,000 to the Yard, which covers the Grange officers' wages and expenses.

Detectives told Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry about the two leads in a lengthy meeting, thought to have taken place at the couple's home in Rothley, Leicestershire, last week.

Kate and Gerry, both 50, are said to be "greatly encouraged" that police could finally be closing in on Madeleine's kidnapper after nearly 12 years and are hopeful "we can get a result".

Madeleine disappeared from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3, 2007. A senior Whitehall source said: "Metropolitan Police officers had a sit-down meeting with Madeleine's parents.

Madeleine "They informed them they had two specific and active leads that still needed to be chased and officers were confident and hopeful they could get a result."

The clues have not been made public for fear that suspects will go to ground.

Previously the Yard has confirmed detectives were working on a theory that Madeleine was taken in a burglary that went wrong.

Officers have also been keen to identify a woman in purple seen hanging around the holiday flat around the time the three-year-old went missing.

The Home Office has so far spent £11.75million on the investigation.

The Government source added: "Police seeking special grant funding have needed to justify exactly what the money would be spent on, who they are chasing and why. They have had to outline their intended work in full detail and careful consideration has been given but we cannot divulge any aspects of that while there is an ongoing operation."

The McCann's spokesman Clarence Mitchell said the couple were "incredibly grateful" for the extra Home Office funding amid police cutbacks.

He said: "They are greatly encouraged that the Met Police still believe there is work left to be done in the search for their daughter. It gives them renewed hope that one day they may finally find out what happened to Madeleine."

The cash will fund Grange until the end of March next year.

The Yard applied for more cash in September but the Home Office only confirmed last Tuesday that it had been approved. Madeleine's parents, however, knew weeks ago.

The couple, who also have 13-year-old twins Sean and Amelie, cling on to the hope Madeleine is still alive. She would now be 15 years old.

The British inquiry, launched in May 2011 after a bungled Portuguese investigation, is spearheaded by Detective Chief Inspector Nicola Wall.

A force spokeswoman said: "We still have important work to do and focused lines of investigation to be pursued. The inquiry has not reached a conclusion and we're continuing with focus and determination."

The Find Maddie Campaign website, run by a family friend and endorsed by Kate and Gerry, has updated its cover photo.

The word "Hope" written in yellow to symbolise the Portuguese colour of strength and solidarity against a vibrant background, is accompanied by a brief note to supporters: "We just want to thank you continuing to be by our side and keeping Madeleine in your heart."


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1046946/maddie-mccann-disappearance-police-meets-parents-new-leads

Tracy also now says that the McCanns knew it had been approved weeks ago, not that they only had an indication that funding would be agreed.   Perhaps she could make her mind up.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3800 on: November 19, 2018, 05:40:55 PM »
The article says who divulged the information does it not?

A ‘Whitehall’ source  @)(++(*
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3801 on: November 19, 2018, 05:52:05 PM »
A ‘Whitehall’ source  @)(++(*
Not “a source close to the family” or “family spokesman” then?  Why ever not?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline faithlilly

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3802 on: November 19, 2018, 05:53:27 PM »
Not “a source close to the family” or “family spokesman” then?  Why ever not?

Because the family ain’t supposed to be rattling their gums, dontcha know  8(0(*
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3803 on: November 19, 2018, 05:55:40 PM »
Rereading this there’s something that is strange about this story.

In May the McCanns, so we are told, were asked by SY not to do any interviews around the 11th anniversay as it may jeopardise ongoing investigations. So who is talking to the newspapers now ? Surely SY, after silencing the parents would not release details, however obscure, of the investigation, the HO likewise but that only leaves the parents, and we know they were asked by SY not to divulge investigation details to the public.

Questions, questions !!
Does it trouble you, the idea that the McCanns are being briefed by the Met and keeping you out of the loop?  Or do you believe this story is a complete invention, made up by Team McCann themselves?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3804 on: November 19, 2018, 05:56:04 PM »
Because the family ain’t supposed to be rattling their gums, dontcha know  8(0(*
Meaning?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Robittybob1

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3805 on: November 19, 2018, 06:01:38 PM »
A ‘Whitehall’ source  @)(++(*
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Offline faithlilly

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3806 on: November 19, 2018, 06:02:28 PM »
Does it trouble you, the idea that the McCanns are being briefed by the Met and keeping you out of the loop?  Or do you believe this story is a complete invention, made up by Team McCann themselves?

I think the meeting took place, it’s the spin I don’t believe.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3807 on: November 19, 2018, 06:14:49 PM »
I think the meeting took place, it’s the spin I don’t believe.
So picking and choosing what to believe in.  Why do you even believe a meeting took place?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline faithlilly

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3808 on: November 19, 2018, 06:18:42 PM »
So picking and choosing what to believe in.  Why do you even believe a meeting took place?

Now that would be telling.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline jassi

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3809 on: November 19, 2018, 06:21:43 PM »
I guess official statements on the Met or Home Office websites would be pretty conclusive.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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