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Offline faithlilly

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3945 on: February 19, 2019, 11:55:55 PM »
Seems Mr Summers and wife are going for another bite of the Madeleine McCann buffet.

https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Looking-for-Madeleine-Audiobook/1489496866?ref=a_wl_c5_desk_pg0_0&pf_rd_p=e1cdc374-bfae-4b90-8581-d902e7ed449f&pf_rd_r=V1RZR650SVNWFEFG5C0B&

Things must be slow on the holiday let business front.

« Last Edit: February 20, 2019, 12:01:21 AM by Faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3946 on: February 20, 2019, 07:19:18 AM »
This article really is a complete crock.  This is the ONLY reference to the Madeleine McCann case in a very long article about Gallop’s work:
 moan moan…

This is in the Times the same fakenewspaper owed by Murdoch ..  This is something worth talking about- if she wants involved why shouldn't she say so?
Is this supposed to be evidence of me slagging off Angela Gallop?  How wrong can a person be?  I am slagging off misleading newspaper articles that imply she has been drafted in on the case.  I know you feel it’s your duty to slag off everything I write on this forum but try to get your facts right first before doing so, thanks.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3947 on: February 20, 2019, 07:23:11 AM »
Seems Mr Summers and wife are going for another bite of the Madeleine McCann buffet.

https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Looking-for-Madeleine-Audiobook/1489496866?ref=a_wl_c5_desk_pg0_0&pf_rd_p=e1cdc374-bfae-4b90-8581-d902e7ed449f&pf_rd_r=V1RZR650SVNWFEFG5C0B&

Things must be slow on the holiday let business front.
For an avowed socialist and supporter of Jeremy Corbyn, you really are incredibly sexist IMO, with you repeated insistence of referring to Robbyn Swan as “and wife”. . 
« Last Edit: February 21, 2019, 12:13:57 PM by John »
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3948 on: February 20, 2019, 07:50:38 AM »
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/760481/madeleine-mccann-disappearance-investigation-stephen-lawrence

This second link from John's post comes up with a video of the reporter I met in Luz just prior to the 10th anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.

Michael was here to cover the 2017 service in St Vincent.  His photo of the candlelight procession for Madeleine is the best I have seen of that event.

He was also covering other angles.  One of those was about me, ShiningInLuz, while another was the story in the video, about the caves around Burgau.

I count Michael as Luz Tour #4, because I spent 2 days showing him around, then I bumped into him at the church service for Madeleine.

I would describe him as a very pleasant, very amiable person. He was also open and honest about what he was doing.  The Daily Star likes a large dollop of frisson along with any facts it might reveal.
What's up, old man?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3949 on: February 25, 2019, 12:34:31 PM »
Kate Juby, 24, was raped by a motor-vehicle driver in April 2017 when she took a ride on the 33-year-old man. The young woman was in Portugal not only to know the Portuguese culture, but also to go to a music festival near Aljezur, in the Algarve.

Now, almost two years after the rape and four months after the sentence of the offender - sentenced at the Lagos Court to four years and six months suspended sentence - the young woman decided to divulge what happened and says she does not want any another woman faces the same ordeal in the hands of the Portuguese legal system.

Read more in: https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/turista-britanica-violada-em-portugal-quebra-o-anonimato-para-mudar-o-system-juridico-portugues?ref=HP_Destaque

After the attack, she managed to escape to the main road for help. A German couple rescued her, covered her with a blanket, and took care of her until the police arrived. When she arrived at the hospital, Kate claims that the treatment she received was another nightmare: "They put me in a bed and took all my clothes." The doctor told me to stop crying and that I needed to grow up. arm and injected me with two liquids that I did not know what they were. " The woman claims that they subsequently took blood samples from her and did the harvest to collect DNA while telling her not to cry. "The doctor was very cruel to me. It was horrible," he says. The injections were antiretrovirals - used to suppress HIV - and antibiotics. The young woman will also have received emergency contraceptive pills. It followed the Judicial Police of Portimão where Kate affirms not to have been given nor a glass of water during several hours.

The assailant was later caught by the authorities where he would have been in sight of Kate. "It was as traumatic as being raped." I began to cry hysterically, "Six hours earlier, this man had raped me," he told the newspaper Mirror .

It took 18 months for the perpetrator to be brought to court, and while he was entitled to legal aid, he had to use Pro Bono Portugal, a group of volunteer lawyers who offer advice to those who can not afford it. She and her family only met the lawyer two hours before the case came to the Lagos Court in October 2018. The man was sentenced to suspended and to pay damages that Kate claims to have donated to a Portuguese charity. According to the British newspaper Mirror, the young woman was horrified when Tiago Curado de Sousa left the court arm in arm with the woman. According to the young woman, months of therapy, nightmares and the difficulty of returning to work followed. Kate plans to appeal the judgment of Curado de Sousa.

++++++++++++++++++++

Please note most sentences which are under 5 years are suspended in Portugal.  There is normally an order for the assailant to pay the victim, on a monthly basis.

The maximum sentence Kate McCann could have got for body occultation was 2 years.  She could hardly have been ordered to pay monthly compensation to Madeleine,

She would have walked away as free as a bird.

Unless her lawyer was a total dumbwit, he should have instructed her of these simple facts.  Her book "madeleine" implies otherwise.

Alzejur was/is a favourite holiday resort of the then British Prime Minister, David Cameron.
What's up, old man?

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3950 on: February 25, 2019, 01:14:19 PM »
Kate Juby, 24, was raped by a motor-vehicle driver in April 2017 when she took a ride on the 33-year-old man. The young woman was in Portugal not only to know the Portuguese culture, but also to go to a music festival near Aljezur, in the Algarve.

Now, almost two years after the rape and four months after the sentence of the offender - sentenced at the Lagos Court to four years and six months suspended sentence - the young woman decided to divulge what happened and says she does not want any another woman faces the same ordeal in the hands of the Portuguese legal system.

Read more in: https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/turista-britanica-violada-em-portugal-quebra-o-anonimato-para-mudar-o-system-juridico-portugues?ref=HP_Destaque

After the attack, she managed to escape to the main road for help. A German couple rescued her, covered her with a blanket, and took care of her until the police arrived. When she arrived at the hospital, Kate claims that the treatment she received was another nightmare: "They put me in a bed and took all my clothes." The doctor told me to stop crying and that I needed to grow up. arm and injected me with two liquids that I did not know what they were. " The woman claims that they subsequently took blood samples from her and did the harvest to collect DNA while telling her not to cry. "The doctor was very cruel to me. It was horrible," he says. The injections were antiretrovirals - used to suppress HIV - and antibiotics. The young woman will also have received emergency contraceptive pills. It followed the Judicial Police of Portimão where Kate affirms not to have been given nor a glass of water during several hours.

The assailant was later caught by the authorities where he would have been in sight of Kate. "It was as traumatic as being raped." I began to cry hysterically, "Six hours earlier, this man had raped me," he told the newspaper Mirror .

It took 18 months for the perpetrator to be brought to court, and while he was entitled to legal aid, he had to use Pro Bono Portugal, a group of volunteer lawyers who offer advice to those who can not afford it. She and her family only met the lawyer two hours before the case came to the Lagos Court in October 2018. The man was sentenced to suspended and to pay damages that Kate claims to have donated to a Portuguese charity. According to the British newspaper Mirror, the young woman was horrified when Tiago Curado de Sousa left the court arm in arm with the woman. According to the young woman, months of therapy, nightmares and the difficulty of returning to work followed. Kate plans to appeal the judgment of Curado de Sousa.

++++++++++++++++++++

Please note most sentences which are under 5 years are suspended in Portugal.  There is normally an order for the assailant to pay the victim, on a monthly basis.

The maximum sentence Kate McCann could have got for body occultation was 2 years.  She could hardly have been ordered to pay monthly compensation to Madeleine,

She would have walked away as free as a bird.

Unless her lawyer was a total dumbwit, he should have instructed her of these simple facts.  Her book "madeleine" implies otherwise.

Alzejur was/is a favourite holiday resort of the then British Prime Minister, David Cameron.

Why do you think it is appropriate for an innocent person to say they are guilty of something they did not do? which raises two questions for me ...
  • what about the actual perpetrator/s?
  • what about the missing child?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Angelo222

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3951 on: February 25, 2019, 03:05:42 PM »
Kate Juby, 24, was raped by a motor-vehicle driver in April 2017 when she took a ride on the 33-year-old man. The young woman was in Portugal not only to know the Portuguese culture, but also to go to a music festival near Aljezur, in the Algarve.

Now, almost two years after the rape and four months after the sentence of the offender - sentenced at the Lagos Court to four years and six months suspended sentence - the young woman decided to divulge what happened and says she does not want any another woman faces the same ordeal in the hands of the Portuguese legal system.

Read more in: https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/turista-britanica-violada-em-portugal-quebra-o-anonimato-para-mudar-o-system-juridico-portugues?ref=HP_Destaque

After the attack, she managed to escape to the main road for help. A German couple rescued her, covered her with a blanket, and took care of her until the police arrived. When she arrived at the hospital, Kate claims that the treatment she received was another nightmare: "They put me in a bed and took all my clothes." The doctor told me to stop crying and that I needed to grow up. arm and injected me with two liquids that I did not know what they were. " The woman claims that they subsequently took blood samples from her and did the harvest to collect DNA while telling her not to cry. "The doctor was very cruel to me. It was horrible," he says. The injections were antiretrovirals - used to suppress HIV - and antibiotics. The young woman will also have received emergency contraceptive pills. It followed the Judicial Police of Portimão where Kate affirms not to have been given nor a glass of water during several hours.

The assailant was later caught by the authorities where he would have been in sight of Kate. "It was as traumatic as being raped." I began to cry hysterically, "Six hours earlier, this man had raped me," he told the newspaper Mirror .

It took 18 months for the perpetrator to be brought to court, and while he was entitled to legal aid, he had to use Pro Bono Portugal, a group of volunteer lawyers who offer advice to those who can not afford it. She and her family only met the lawyer two hours before the case came to the Lagos Court in October 2018. The man was sentenced to suspended and to pay damages that Kate claims to have donated to a Portuguese charity. According to the British newspaper Mirror, the young woman was horrified when Tiago Curado de Sousa left the court arm in arm with the woman. According to the young woman, months of therapy, nightmares and the difficulty of returning to work followed. Kate plans to appeal the judgment of Curado de Sousa.

++++++++++++++++++++

Please note most sentences which are under 5 years are suspended in Portugal.  There is normally an order for the assailant to pay the victim, on a monthly basis.

The maximum sentence Kate McCann could have got for body occultation was 2 years.  She could hardly have been ordered to pay monthly compensation to Madeleine,

She would have walked away as free as a bird.

Unless her lawyer was a total dumbwit, he should have instructed her of these simple facts.  Her book "madeleine" implies otherwise.

Alzejur was/is a favourite holiday resort of the then British Prime Minister, David Cameron.

Do you happen to know if the under 5 years suspended sentence rule applied back in 2007?
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3952 on: February 25, 2019, 04:07:23 PM »
Kate Juby, 24, was raped by a motor-vehicle driver in April 2017 when she took a ride on the 33-year-old man. The young woman was in Portugal not only to know the Portuguese culture, but also to go to a music festival near Aljezur, in the Algarve.

Now, almost two years after the rape and four months after the sentence of the offender - sentenced at the Lagos Court to four years and six months suspended sentence - the young woman decided to divulge what happened and says she does not want any another woman faces the same ordeal in the hands of the Portuguese legal system.

Read more in: https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/turista-britanica-violada-em-portugal-quebra-o-anonimato-para-mudar-o-system-juridico-portugues?ref=HP_Destaque

After the attack, she managed to escape to the main road for help. A German couple rescued her, covered her with a blanket, and took care of her until the police arrived. When she arrived at the hospital, Kate claims that the treatment she received was another nightmare: "They put me in a bed and took all my clothes." The doctor told me to stop crying and that I needed to grow up. arm and injected me with two liquids that I did not know what they were. " The woman claims that they subsequently took blood samples from her and did the harvest to collect DNA while telling her not to cry. "The doctor was very cruel to me. It was horrible," he says. The injections were antiretrovirals - used to suppress HIV - and antibiotics. The young woman will also have received emergency contraceptive pills. It followed the Judicial Police of Portimão where Kate affirms not to have been given nor a glass of water during several hours.

The assailant was later caught by the authorities where he would have been in sight of Kate. "It was as traumatic as being raped." I began to cry hysterically, "Six hours earlier, this man had raped me," he told the newspaper Mirror .

It took 18 months for the perpetrator to be brought to court, and while he was entitled to legal aid, he had to use Pro Bono Portugal, a group of volunteer lawyers who offer advice to those who can not afford it. She and her family only met the lawyer two hours before the case came to the Lagos Court in October 2018. The man was sentenced to suspended and to pay damages that Kate claims to have donated to a Portuguese charity. According to the British newspaper Mirror, the young woman was horrified when Tiago Curado de Sousa left the court arm in arm with the woman. According to the young woman, months of therapy, nightmares and the difficulty of returning to work followed. Kate plans to appeal the judgment of Curado de Sousa.

++++++++++++++++++++

Please note most sentences which are under 5 years are suspended in Portugal.  There is normally an order for the assailant to pay the victim, on a monthly basis.

The maximum sentence Kate McCann could have got for body occultation was 2 years.  She could hardly have been ordered to pay monthly compensation to Madeleine,

She would have walked away as free as a bird.

Unless her lawyer was a total dumbwit, he should have instructed her of these simple facts.  Her book "madeleine" implies otherwise.

Alzejur was/is a favourite holiday resort of the then British Prime Minister, David Cameron.

What a disgusting excuse fir a justice system when a crime such as this only attracts a suspended sentence...

A British fan convicted of football hooliganism was jailed for two years in Portugal... Does sil have a cite for his claim...or us it just made up
« Last Edit: February 25, 2019, 04:19:34 PM by Davel »

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3953 on: February 25, 2019, 05:58:12 PM »
Kate Juby, 24, was raped by a motor-vehicle driver in April 2017 when she took a ride on the 33-year-old man. The young woman was in Portugal not only to know the Portuguese culture, but also to go to a music festival near Aljezur, in the Algarve.

Now, almost two years after the rape and four months after the sentence of the offender - sentenced at the Lagos Court to four years and six months suspended sentence - the young woman decided to divulge what happened and says she does not want any another woman faces the same ordeal in the hands of the Portuguese legal system.

Read more in: https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/turista-britanica-violada-em-portugal-quebra-o-anonimato-para-mudar-o-system-juridico-portugues?ref=HP_Destaque

After the attack, she managed to escape to the main road for help. A German couple rescued her, covered her with a blanket, and took care of her until the police arrived. When she arrived at the hospital, Kate claims that the treatment she received was another nightmare: "They put me in a bed and took all my clothes." The doctor told me to stop crying and that I needed to grow up. arm and injected me with two liquids that I did not know what they were. " The woman claims that they subsequently took blood samples from her and did the harvest to collect DNA while telling her not to cry. "The doctor was very cruel to me. It was horrible," he says. The injections were antiretrovirals - used to suppress HIV - and antibiotics. The young woman will also have received emergency contraceptive pills. It followed the Judicial Police of Portimão where Kate affirms not to have been given nor a glass of water during several hours.

The assailant was later caught by the authorities where he would have been in sight of Kate. "It was as traumatic as being raped." I began to cry hysterically, "Six hours earlier, this man had raped me," he told the newspaper Mirror .

It took 18 months for the perpetrator to be brought to court, and while he was entitled to legal aid, he had to use Pro Bono Portugal, a group of volunteer lawyers who offer advice to those who can not afford it. She and her family only met the lawyer two hours before the case came to the Lagos Court in October 2018. The man was sentenced to suspended and to pay damages that Kate claims to have donated to a Portuguese charity. According to the British newspaper Mirror, the young woman was horrified when Tiago Curado de Sousa left the court arm in arm with the woman. According to the young woman, months of therapy, nightmares and the difficulty of returning to work followed. Kate plans to appeal the judgment of Curado de Sousa.

++++++++++++++++++++

Please note most sentences which are under 5 years are suspended in Portugal.  There is normally an order for the assailant to pay the victim, on a monthly basis.

The maximum sentence Kate McCann could have got for body occultation was 2 years.  She could hardly have been ordered to pay monthly compensation to Madeleine,

She would have walked away as free as a bird.

Unless her lawyer was a total dumbwit, he should have instructed her of these simple facts.  Her book "madeleine" implies otherwise.

Alzejur was/is a favourite holiday resort of the then British Prime Minister, David Cameron.
Good old Portuguese justice system, ain’t it grand?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Mr Gray

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3954 on: February 25, 2019, 06:00:39 PM »
Good old Portuguese justice system, ain’t it grand?

Yes... A violent rapists walks free... Whilst a football hooligan is jailed for two years...

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3955 on: February 25, 2019, 06:04:03 PM »
Yes... A violent rapists walks free... Whilst a football hooligan is jailed for two years...
Does it depend on the nationality of the victim / perpetrator do you think?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Mr Gray

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3956 on: February 25, 2019, 06:09:14 PM »
Does it depend on the nationality of the victim / perpetrator do you think?

It certainly  seems to..

Offline Eleanor

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3957 on: February 25, 2019, 06:13:21 PM »
Does it depend on the nationality of the victim / perpetrator do you think?

I'm surprised she didn't get done for flaunting herself.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3958 on: February 26, 2019, 10:46:34 AM »
Do you happen to know if the under 5 years suspended sentence rule applied back in 2007?
AFAIK, yes, which is why the incident of the alleged deal allegedly offered to Kate sounds like a crock of poo to me.  The whole incident comes across as entirely dodgy, to me.

In another case in Portugal, where a woman was found entombed in a pillar, the suspect could not be charged with anything significant, because there is a time limit of 15 years for bringing a murder charge.

So after 3 May 2022, even if it was felt the McCanns had murdered Madeleine, no charges would be brought, at least within Portugal.
What's up, old man?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3959 on: February 26, 2019, 10:49:30 AM »
Why do you think it is appropriate for an innocent person to say they are guilty of something they did not do? which raises two questions for me ...
  • what about the actual perpetrator/s?
  • what about the missing child?
How do know they are innocent?  As you don't, your message is simply propaganda.
What's up, old man?