General discussion about the latest news (not search related)

[Wonderfulspam]

Do you ever get used to these situations?

Francisco Moita Flores - "Yes, you get used to dealing with crimes every day; it is our routine. But Portugal is the safest country in Europe and in the 40 years of democracy we have, besides Maddie, only 3 other children have disappeared. There WAS NEVER a network of paedophiles, abductors ... That NEVER existed in Portugal, it is an invention that has been made to protect the parents of Maddie and their group of friends".

Where is this quote from please?

[Venturi Swirl]

Do you ever get used to these situations?

Francisco Moita Flores - "Yes, you get used to dealing with crimes every day; it is our routine. But Portugal is the safest country in Europe and in the 40 years of democracy we have, besides Maddie, only 3 other children have disappeared. There WAS NEVER a network of paedophiles, abductors ... That NEVER existed in Portugal, it is an invention that has been made to protect the parents of Maddie and their group of friends".

So Casa Pia was invented by the McCanns as a coverup in case one of their kids had an accident while they were on holiday in Portugal.  It all makes sense now...

[Wonderfulspam]

Is surgical mask man the same as smelly bin man or were there a number of different men all entering holiday apartments at night & assaulting white British girls ?!

I'm confused.

[misty]

Has it ever dawned on you what kind of professionals have easy access to surgical masks?
There might be a cryptic clue in this story. Doctors use surgical masks, so maybe their new lead is a doctor.

You can buy a pack of 10 on Amazon for £2.99. People use them for protection against viral infections & pollution.

[pathfinder73]

Is surgical mask man the same as smelly bin man or were there a number of different men all entering holiday apartments at night & assaulting white British girls ?!

I'm confused.

A surgical mask but no gloves marks were found. How extraordinary 

[Brietta]

Has it ever dawned on you what kind of professionals have easy access to surgical masks?
There might be a cryptic clue in this story. Doctors use surgical masks, so maybe their new lead is a doctor.

[misty]

So do you think the new lead may have purchased a 10 pack from Amazon and the new suspect's name is in the Amazon surgical mask database? That's an interesting theory, I hadn't thought of.
Amaral may be more correct than us though, Sky News are reporting the investigation has identified a new suspect and he's a known pedo. Amaral claimed on Monday a German pedo may be their target on which to try to pin the blame.

Oh I do hope so. That's one sure fire way to get Kate and Gerry into the witness box as witnesses for the defence. I wonder if the suspect they are on about really is German.

You always think it's going to get interesting and then it comes to absolutely nothing, don't you think?

Given the number of people who have purchased the cheap masks since 2007 to protect themselves from Swine flu, Bird Flu & everyday pollution in China, a search of Amazon's customer list would be the proverbial needle in haystack.

The German was only interested in boys so imo Amaral is barking up the wrong tree with that assertion.

A new suspect may well have been identified. The trial of a man from Agueda, Portugal is beginning this month. He is charged with setting up an international paedophile ring on the Dark Web & sharing CSA photos & videos. Reportedly he has 2 paedophile friends in the police force & knew how to play the justice system. One of Interpol's  most wanted paedophiles is a Portuguese of unknown identity. Possibly some information has come to light from this network.
https://zap.aeiou.pt/pedofilo-rede-internacional-sucata-247872

[misty]

If this most wanted pedo's identity is unknown, how can Interpol know for sure he is Portuguese?

Language spoken or IP addresses? Not sure, but Interpol tend to know what they're doing.

[Robittybob1]

It's neither. It's a one hour documentary titled; The Madeleine McCann Mystery
It was aired on May 2nd on Guest Red in the UK and may have been aired earlier.

Don't worry, I'll keep you right. Bear that in mind the next time you go demanding cites from people. It's much better if you know what your talking about first imo.

It's on discovery right now in the UK.
Here's a cite for you; https://www.discoveryuk.com/series/the-madeleine-mccann-mystery/

I'm not in UK and that link worked but didn't take me to what I expected.  Is this the same footage? "Investigation Discovery : What happened to Madeleine McCann Documentary 2019"  https://youtu.be/rQ7o5wF1vF8

[Brietta]

Given the number of people who have purchased the cheap masks since 2007 to protect themselves from Swine flu, Bird Flu & everyday pollution in China, a search of Amazon's customer list would be the proverbial needle in haystack.

The German was only interested in boys so imo Amaral is barking up the wrong tree with that assertion.

A new suspect may well have been identified. The trial of a man from Agueda, Portugal is beginning this month. He is charged with setting up an international paedophile ring on the Dark Web & sharing CSA photos & videos. Reportedly he has 2 paedophile friends in the police force & knew how to play the justice system. One of Interpol's  most wanted paedophiles is a Portuguese of unknown identity. Possibly some information has come to light from this network.
https://zap.aeiou.pt/pedofilo-rede-internacional-sucata-247872

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Author confessed of abuses to babies had already been condemned for pornography of minors, but judges left him at liberty, by the time he was only 19 years old. Another predator has been linked to the network, who had already been able to escape to jail thanks to a judicial formalism.
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Due to its extreme contours, the case will be unpublished in Portugal.
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It was scarce three months before , he had just been released by the judges of the Court of Aveiro, who arrived at the Judicial Police an alert coming from an Australian counterpart with the first suspicions about this new case.

Interpol's suspicions center on a Portuguese of unknown identity who is "one of the most wanted pedophiles" of the time. A 50,000 euro reward from this police was created for anyone who provided information about Baby Heart.

Europol is also on the ground, but it must be an accomplice of the pedophile caught in Brazil that puts the authorities behind him.

The conversations the two men had online reveal the impunity with which the Portuguese acted, which guaranteed that in the national territory it is easy to make incriminating evidence disappear because judges, prosecutors and police sell easily.

"I have two pedophile friends who are policemen," he said, explaining that the suspended sentence he had been convicted of had delayed plans to open a playground in a shopping center with out-of-hours babysitting .
He also wanted to become a bodyguard for children.
Another feat was part of her plans, revenge on the Judiciary inspector who had investigated the case of pornography on Facebook: "I know where your son's school is."
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In more or less detail, minors old enough to explain themselves described the abuses they had been victimized. But they do not remember everything: there were times when they were put to sleep with soporificos.

https://www.publico.pt/2019/03/24/sociedade/noticia/pedofilo-liderava-rede-internacional-partir-sucata-agueda-1866646

[Brietta]

So they don't know for sure if he's Portuguese, fair enough.

It does not matter what nationality this person is he is responsible for the abuse of children.  It is not the first worldwide network to be discovered nor will it be the last which makes it particularly unacceptable if flippant attitudes prevail such as those displayed in your posts on the anniversary of the day a three year old child vanished.

The clue this particular outrage is centred in Portugal might lie in the fact the Portuguese were alerted to its existence by the Australians.

Thank God for the good men and women who do this kind of work to eliminate such crimes against children; it must take a heavy toll on them

[misty]

@ 30:00 in the video:

"Jane Tanner recognises the man she claims she saw holding the child as ROBERT MURAT"

That puts Jane Tanner identifying Robert Murat to bed once and for all. Well done.

Does that evidence feature in the evidence for The Case against Robert Murat in PJ files? If not, why not?

[Brietta]

@ 30:00 in the video:

"Jane Tanner recognises the man she claims she saw holding the child as ROBERT MURAT"

That puts Jane Tanner identifying Robert Murat to bed once and for all. Well done.

That is not news ... but I can see why you are deflecting to it.

I think the latest news makes it plain that as has been obvious to the majority for quite some time ... that neither Scotland Yard or the Judicial police have been twiddling their thumbs over the long drawn out case of investigating what happened to Madeleine McCann.

What is being revealed at the moment almost makes me wish that the Moita Flores and Joana Morais of this life were correct in the nonsense they've been punting for years.
The Publico article I've linked to and Misty's original link make it crystal clear that is not the case; worse Publico has indicated that people in the judiciary are responsible for participating in the crimes and allowing perpetrators free rein. I would say those who conspired for years to cover it up and say it does not happen are just as bad.

[misty]

Could you tell me how you think I would be privy to the information to be in a position to answer that question please?

It's all here.......
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ROBERT-MURAT.htm

[Brietta]

People in glass houses shouldn't toss stones and all that.
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Suffolk man avoids prison after downloading over 40,000 indecent images of children

A man from Suffolk who became obsessed with child porn and downloaded more than 40,000 images has walked free from court after a judge decided NOT to send him straight to prison.
Nigel Nessling told police he initially saw an image of an eight-year-old girl and thought she was “pretty and cute” and became obsessed with viewing indecent images of children over a period of seven or eight years, Ipswich Crown Court heard.

“He said he needed to find more material to grow his collection and gained a thrill from forbidden fruit,” said Michael Crimp, prosecuting.

The court heard that police officers went to where Nessling was living at the time - an address in Ipswich - on April 11 and seized items including two laptops, a hard drive and a tower unit.

When the equipment was analysed it was found to contain 804 still and moving images in the MOST SERIOUS level A category, 818 still and moving level B images and more than 40,000 still and moving images in the lowest level C category.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/ipswich-man-avoids-prison-after-downloading-over-40-000-indecent-images-of-children-1-5283183

That is not news either and your deflection to it smacks of real desperation.  You appear to really be having difficulty coping what the real and current news is about.

Fire ahead though.  It reflects badly on none but you.