Charlotte Pennington - what is the truth?

[The General]

Enough said about clowns.  I'm feeling that the thread is being derailed.

Same theme on every other thread, so why change now?

[G-Unit]

Enough said about clowns.  I'm feeling that the thread is being derailed.

Unfortunately I highlighted inconsistencies in Charlotte Pennington's assertions to the media. Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent. Therefore convoluted explanations must be found to 'explain' her unworkable claims. At the same time those who don't believe her must be attacked. All in my opinion.

[Venturi Swirl]

Unfortunately I highlighted inconsistencies in Charlotte Pennington's assertions to the media. Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent. Therefore convoluted explanations must be found to 'explain' her unworkable claims. At the same time those who don't believe her must be attacked. All in my opinion.

To be fair I was simply highlighting a double standard, where libel against one individual was permitted, but against another it was not.  It’s important to have consistency because I am fairly certain that if I described Amaral as an attention seeking C word who makes things up I would be punished. 

[Robittybob1]

Unfortunately I highlighted inconsistencies in Charlotte Pennington's assertions to the media. Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent. Therefore convoluted explanations must be found to 'explain' her unworkable claims. At the same time those who don't believe her must be attacked. All in my opinion.

What made you say Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent?

[Robittybob1]

To be fair I was simply highlighting a double standard, where libel against one individual was permitted, but against another it was not.  It’s important to have consistency because I am fairly certain that if I described Amaral as an attention seeking C word who makes things up I would be punished.

If the issue starts with a moderator, it becomes difficult to moderate.

[Venturi Swirl]

What made you say Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent?

More to the point, why shouldn’t she?  She is as entitled if not more so to an opinion regarding the events of that night. 

[Robittybob1]

More to the point, why shouldn’t she?  She is as entitled if not more so to an opinion regarding the events of that night.

Charlotte is allowed an opinion but where does she express her opinion?

[Venturi Swirl]

If the issue starts with a moderator, it becomes difficult to moderate.

Quite.

[Robittybob1]

Unfortunately I highlighted inconsistencies in Charlotte Pennington's assertions to the media. Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent. Therefore convoluted explanations must be found to 'explain' her unworkable claims. At the same time those who don't believe her must be attacked. All in my opinion.

Can opinion be libel?    Does the forum feel that it is allowable to make libellous remarks disguised as opinion?

"Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent."  Reads like a libellous statement to me.
"Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent.  All in my opinion."   Does that cancel out the libel simply by asserting it was opinion, when it is impossible to show how one formed that opinion?

[Eleanor]

Can opinion be libel?    Does the forum feel that it is allowable to make libellous remarks disguised as opinion?

"Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent."  Reads like a libellous statement to me.
"Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent.  All in my opinion."   Does that cancel out the libel simply by asserting it was opinion, when it is impossible to show how one formed that opinion?

Yes, it can.  In my opinion.

[jassi]

Can opinion be libel?    Does the forum feel that it is allowable to make libellous remarks disguised as opinion?

"Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent."  Reads like a libellous statement to me.
"Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent.  All in my opinion."   Does that cancel out the libel simply by asserting it was opinion, when it is impossible to show how one formed that opinion?

Really ? Is it in any way damaging to her reputation for someone to say that ?

[slartibartfast]

Can opinion be libel?    Does the forum feel that it is allowable to make libellous remarks disguised as opinion?

"Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent."  Reads like a libellous statement to me.
"Charlotte Pennington believes the McCanns are innocent.  All in my opinion."   Does that cancel out the libel simply by asserting it was opinion, when it is impossible to show how one formed that opinion?

Neither is libellous as considering someone innocent cannot be seen as a negative thing.

[slartibartfast]

Neither is libellous as considering someone innocent cannot be seen as a negative thing.

Until you get into holocaust denial territory. If you said Joe believes the Nazi’s were innocent, that could be defamatory.

[Robittybob1]

Neither is libellous as considering someone innocent cannot be seen as a negative thing.

What if Charlotte has firm beliefs opposing that view?  G-unit is not saying the McCanns are innocent.

[Robittybob1]

Until you get into holocaust denial territory. If you said Joe believes the Nazi’s were innocent, that could be defamatory.

What about saying the Pope is not Catholic?  I think a belief can only be determined by that person making a declaration.  Unless it has been reported in some media what Charlotte believes one should NOT declare an opinion about it.