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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #345 on: April 09, 2020, 04:33:22 PM »


Would people from the right or middle who voted for him really want him dead? ok... so must be the left.


Anyway. her remarks were shameful and crass- However, I don't think she should lose her job because of it. She is entitled to her opinion, which I disagree with, But I do believe in freedom of speech!

 The fact that she is a mayor -different story - quite right to lose that office and be removed from the party for saying out loud what many probably privately think! :)

I’m ‘the left’ and I don’t want him dead, so bang goes your theory.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #346 on: April 09, 2020, 05:16:27 PM »
I’m ‘the left’ and I don’t want him dead, so bang goes your theory.

Oh Faith, it wasn't a theory... just the proof you needed that is was just those leaning the left who were giving him a hard time. no one from the right were being nasty.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #347 on: April 09, 2020, 05:32:12 PM »
Oh Faith, it wasn't a theory... just the proof you needed that is was just those leaning the left who were giving him a hard time. no one from the right were being nasty.

Those who have no political affiliation but have been at the sharp end of Johnson and his party’s policies are also making their opinions known as are those who are on the right but have no time for Johnson.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #348 on: April 09, 2020, 05:51:02 PM »
Isn’t the help you’re getting for your business from the government socialism in action ?


No. it is a government giving money back to those who give in.  Those who contribute nothing should they really expect having more than those who give money in?

outsourcing doesn't help nor does bringing in 70 thousand people from outwith our borders. Help people with zero hours and low pay.
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Sorry I missed the opinions of those on the right who were calling him names.



'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #349 on: April 09, 2020, 05:57:14 PM »
I’m pleased to say I received my government grant today, thank you Rishi. 
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #350 on: April 09, 2020, 06:00:09 PM »
I’m pleased to say I received my government grant today, thank you Rishi.

Free money for those in need. We’ll make a socialist of you yet  8(0(*
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #351 on: April 09, 2020, 06:04:04 PM »
Free money for those in need. We’ll make a socialist of you yet  8(0(*

lol but it isn't 'free' the government does not have any money to give away. They take from the people via tax!  low paid workers... AND if you take on another job to boost your income YOU pay more tax so not much better of really.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #352 on: April 09, 2020, 06:30:46 PM »
lol but it isn't 'free' the government does not have any money to give away. They take from the people via tax!  low paid workers... AND if you take on another job to boost your income YOU pay more tax so not much better of really.
I see Faithlilly is still banging the “we are all socialists now” drum.  I will never be one, as it demonstrably does not work.  Socialism taken to its nth degree would mean we would all be given an identical equal  living wage for doing b....r all and society would fall apart in five minutes because if people don’t have to work they won’t and if brain surgeons get paid the same as someone who chooses not to work why would anyone bother to spend years training to be one in the first place?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #353 on: April 09, 2020, 06:42:04 PM »
I see Faithlilly is still banging the “we are all socialists now” drum.  I will never be one, as it demonstrably does not work.  Socialism taken to its nth degree would mean we would all be given an identical equal  living wage for doing b....r all and society would fall apart in five minutes because if people don’t have to work they won’t and if brain surgeons get paid the same as someone who chooses not to work why would anyone bother to spend years training to be one in the first place?

YES you just need to ask the Russian and the Chinese- now global capitalist economies- more billionaires. Still have poverty. Only some rose to the top of the tree and well,  guess who they were?

They use low crimes to entrap citizens to do low/no pay work!
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #354 on: April 09, 2020, 06:51:06 PM »
lol but it isn't 'free' the government does not have any money to give away. They take from the people via tax!  low paid workers... AND if you take on another job to boost your income YOU pay more tax so not much better of really.

Perhaps those who have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own and have had to depend on the state for their income will be a tad more sympathetic to those who have had to do the same but in the long term.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #355 on: April 09, 2020, 06:59:02 PM »
I see Faithlilly is still banging the “we are all socialists now” drum.  I will never be one, as it demonstrably does not work.  Socialism taken to its nth degree would mean we would all be given an identical equal  living wage for doing b....r all and society would fall apart in five minutes because if people don’t have to work they won’t and if brain surgeons get paid the same as someone who chooses not to work why would anyone bother to spend years training to be one in the first place?

The Universal Basic Income, which Spain has just introduced, would mean no one would have less than a set amount to live on. It doesn’t mean that everyone would be paid the same wage.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #356 on: April 09, 2020, 07:00:57 PM »
Perhaps those who have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own and have had to depend on the state for their income will be a tad more sympathetic to those who have had to do the same but in the long term.


I do not disagree with that sentiment at all. However, the system is being abused, and those abusing it are the root cause of the less money going to those who really do need it!  I know this to be true!

I see pain and suffering from all walks of life in my line of work I know who is deserving of help- I also see people who are bleeding the system- that sickens me. AND higher tax from the rich/middle/lower working class will not stop the abusers.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #357 on: April 09, 2020, 07:06:32 PM »

I do not disagree with that sentiment at all. However, the system is being abused, and those abusing it are the root cause of the less money going to those who really do need it!  I know this to be true!

I see pain and suffering from all walks of life in my line of work I know who is deserving of help- I also see people who are bleeding the system- that sickens me. AND higher tax from the rich/middle/lower working class will not stop the abusers.

Government cuts are the cause of the needy going without. Blaming those who abuse the system, a small fraction of claimants, is simply shifting the blame away from those who are truly culpable.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #358 on: April 09, 2020, 07:20:04 PM »
Government cuts are the cause of the needy going without. Blaming those who abuse the system, a small fraction of claimants, is simply shifting the blame away from those who are truly culpable.

I disagree.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #359 on: April 09, 2020, 07:22:32 PM »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?