Barry George revisited.

[Nicholas]

Barry George’s uncle Mike claimed:

“I saw just a little of the SKY News interview but I was not impressed by what I saw and heard. It seemed to me as if Barry was reciting from a script. I almost laughed as he earnestly said that he couldn’t begin to understand what the Dando family was going through. It just didn’t sound like something which he would say without being prompted, I felt they were not his words.

I got the strong sense Michelle Diskin Bates and Barry George’s words were scripted (From their imaginations) in their recent ITV & GMB interviews; wonder if Mike Bourke felt the same?

My impression of the pair of them is that they are hiding a secret, and are codependent on each other and
Michelle Diskin Bates became her brothers enabler many years ago.

”Codependency is a behavioral condition in a relationship where one person enables another person's addiction, poor mental health, immaturity, irresponsibility, or under-achievement. Among the core characteristics of codependency is an excessive reliance on other people for approval and a sense of identity.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codependency

Enabling Behavior and Codependency
https://greatoaksrecovery.com/enabling-behavior-and-codependency/

I don’t suppose they’ve given much consideration to the following


“Hamish Campbell was the officer in charge after the Crimewatch host, 37, was shot 20 years ago this month.
He said: “What remains outstanding is the handgun.
“If that were to be discovered, and could be directly attributed to a person, and that person’s timeline determined for April 1999, then perhaps matters could progress.
“But after two decades, it becomes a remote possibility.
“The Dando investigation is clear on what evidence it has at a forensic level, and what the witnesses said they saw or heard or knew in 1999. They remain unchanged.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jill-dandos-killer-only-caught-14446069

[Nicholas]

Barry George’s uncle Mike claimed:

“I saw just a little of the SKY News interview but I was not impressed by what I saw and heard. It seemed to me as if Barry was reciting from a script. I almost laughed as he earnestly said that he couldn’t begin to understand what the Dando family was going through. It just didn’t sound like something which he would say without being prompted, I felt they were not his words.

I got the strong sense Michelle Diskin Bates and Barry George’s words were scripted (From their imaginations) in their recent ITV & GMB interviews; wonder if Mike Bourke felt the same?

My impression of the pair of them is that they are hiding a secret, and are codependent on each other and
Michelle Diskin Bates became her brothers enabler many years ago.

”Codependency is a behavioral condition in a relationship where one person enables another person's addiction, poor mental health, immaturity, irresponsibility, or under-achievement. Among the core characteristics of codependency is an excessive reliance on other people for approval and a sense of identity.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codependency

Enabling Behavior and Codependency
https://greatoaksrecovery.com/enabling-behavior-and-codependency/

“People who have a codependent relationship where there is a lot of enabling going on often think they have a great love for the person they enable. Actually, it is a limited love that is often based on their own codependent needs to control and enmesh. Enabling behavior and codependency lead not to intimate loving relationships but to pain and estrangement.

Enmeshment is a concept in psychology and psychotherapy introduced by Salvador Minuchin (1921-2017) to describe families where personal boundaries are diffused, sub-systems undifferentiated, and over-concern for others leads to a loss of autonomous development.[1] Enmeshed in parental needs, trapped in a discrepant role function,[2] a child may lose their capacity for self-direction;[3] their own distinctiveness, under the weight of "psychic incest";[4] and, if family pressures increase, may end up becoming the identified patient or family scapegoat.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enmeshment

https://www.thrivetalk.com/enmeshment/

[Nicholas]

Barry George’s uncle Mike claimed:

“I saw just a little of the SKY News interview but I was not impressed by what I saw and heard. It seemed to me as if Barry was reciting from a script. I almost laughed as he earnestly said that he couldn’t begin to understand what the Dando family was going through. It just didn’t sound like something which he would say without being prompted, I felt they were not his words.

I got the strong sense Michelle Diskin Bates and Barry George’s words were scripted (From their imaginations) in their recent ITV & GMB interviews; wonder if Mike Bourke felt the same?

My impression of the pair of them is that they are hiding a secret, and are codependent on each other and
Michelle Diskin Bates became her brothers enabler many years ago.

”Codependency is a behavioral condition in a relationship where one person enables another person's addiction, poor mental health, immaturity, irresponsibility, or under-achievement. Among the core characteristics of codependency is an excessive reliance on other people for approval and a sense of identity.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codependency

Enabling Behavior and Codependency
https://greatoaksrecovery.com/enabling-behavior-and-codependency/

In her book Michelle Diskin Bates writes about having signed herself into a psychiatric ward in 1997 after what she describes as, “my mind was imploding, “I was a mental wreck, my mind was psychologically impaired.

She appears to link it to her home life at the time, which she claims was “humdrum, tedious and unfulfilling,” And apparently told her psychiatrist, when they asked her if she were suicidal, “no but if I go home I’ll kill myself.”

At some point, following what she says was her psychiatrist’s suggestion, she appears to have enrolled on a psychology course of some description? She doesn’t say what kind of course it was nor if she completed the course? However not long after this we know that Jill Dando was murdered and her brother subsequently arrested and charged with murder.

[Nicholas]

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted

Don Hale OBE
@perryscope21
The documentary was very biased and one sided. Nothing new. No interview with Barry George and his family, no acknowledgement Campbell made a complete hash of the police inquiry and no apology to an innocent man.
Quote Tweet

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
 · Apr 3
“...undeveloped film, and a collection of cuttings about Dando.”
Is it only Hamish Campbell who doesn’t know this is a lie? Two trials both knew there were no cuttings, underlining or other markings on the magazines. Campbell saw cuttings?
(link: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/apr/02/the-murder-of-jill-dando-review) theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2…
8:36 AM · Apr 4, 2019 · Twitter Web Client
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Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
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Apr 4
Replying to
@perryscope21
Thank you Don. No ‘right of reply’ either. They spoke with me on courtesy calls, but no warning as to the content. The only thing they did was to NOT describe Barry’s autism in disparaging terms...oddball, weirdo. They obviously couldn’t find a better word for Loner though 😡
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Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
·
Apr 4
Replying to
@perryscope21
The programme shocked me, it was outrageous that they gave an ex cop, of a failed investigation a huge platform, then used leading questions to reach their objective. They knew my book outlines the flaws in the investigation, but chose to sideline that.
https://mobile.twitter.com/perryscope21/status/1113706820693102592

 

[Nicholas]

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted

Don Hale OBE
@perryscope21
The documentary was very biased and one sided. Nothing new. No interview with Barry George and his family, no acknowledgement Campbell made a complete hash of the police inquiry and no apology to an innocent man.
Quote Tweet

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
 · Apr 3
“...undeveloped film, and a collection of cuttings about Dando.”
Is it only Hamish Campbell who doesn’t know this is a lie? Two trials both knew there were no cuttings, underlining or other markings on the magazines. Campbell saw cuttings?
(link: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/apr/02/the-murder-of-jill-dando-review) theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2…
8:36 AM · Apr 4, 2019 · Twitter Web Client
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Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
·
Apr 4
Replying to
@perryscope21
Thank you Don. No ‘right of reply’ either. They spoke with me on courtesy calls, but no warning as to the content. The only thing they did was to NOT describe Barry’s autism in disparaging terms...oddball, weirdo. They obviously couldn’t find a better word for Loner though 😡
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Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
·
Apr 4
Replying to
@perryscope21
The programme shocked me, it was outrageous that they gave an ex cop, of a failed investigation a huge platform, then used leading questions to reach their objective. They knew my book outlines the flaws in the investigation, but chose to sideline that.
https://mobile.twitter.com/perryscope21/status/1113706820693102592

 

Appears to me because she has the likes of Dr Michael Naughton’s endorsement of her book it would give it some of credibility. It doesn’t!

[Nicholas]

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Okay...where did this come from? A transcript?
The 'restricted' transcript which claimed Liverpool gangsters were linked to Jill Dando murder - Liverpool Echo

Transcript claimed Liverpool gangsters were linked to Jill Dando murder
ECHO reveals full unredacted copy of a secret recording and the real story behind it
liverpoolecho.co.uk
8:33 PM · Apr 7, 2019 · Twitter for iPad
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Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
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Apr 7
Replying to
@Michelle_Diskin
Two trials took place and the investigation was subject to an internal review. If any new information comes to our attention then this will be investigated."
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1114974492521054208

Hum, I wonder? Who had access to “restricted” and sensitive case papers? Who did Barry George and Michelle Diskin Bates appear to allow free reign? 

[Nicholas]

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted

Prof David Wilson
@ProfDavidWilson
Watching #JillDando on #BBC1 - serious and sober but 1. The miscarriage against George is significant and the circumstances of it typical of other miscarriages; 2. Why a contract killing was ruled out still baffles and is for me the most likely scenario
https://mobile.twitter.com/ProfDavidWilson/status/1113184617966825473

 

Maybe if he read “Stand Against Injustice and “Mike’s Story he’d change his mind?


Sandra Lean
@SandraLean5
The murder of Jill Dando - another case of police choosing an easy target, ignoring everything else and refusing to consider they might have the wrong man. How can we call this justice?
(link: https://player.stv.tv/episode/3rz2/dando-mystery/) player.stv.tv/episode/3rz2/d… …
https://mobile.twitter.com/SandraLean5/status/1121703077122330624


Poppy Ann Miller™
@PoppyMeze
Wondering why the case of Barry George, who, having been totally absolved of #JillDando's murder, is considered by the #BBC to be worthy or a re-run. No-ones's getting worried about this book are they? (link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stand-Against-Injustice-wrongly-convicted-ebook/dp/B07JFZSF6V/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Barry+George&qid=1554238766&s=digital-text&sr=1-1) amazon.co.uk/Stand-Against-…   
@Michelle_Diskin
https://mobile.twitter.com/PoppyMeze/status/1113185065482235904

[Nicholas]

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted

Prof David Wilson
@ProfDavidWilson
Watching #JillDando on #BBC1 - serious and sober but 1. The miscarriage against George is significant and the circumstances of it typical of other miscarriages; 2. Why a contract killing was ruled out still baffles and is for me the most likely scenario
https://mobile.twitter.com/ProfDavidWilson/status/1113184617966825473

 

Maybe if he read “Stand Against Injustice and “Mike’s Story he’d change his mind?

Then again..

“This video is very interesting. Julie Walters (one of my favourite actresses and I won't have a bad word said about her) is clearly reading from an auto cue. She says that the video is co-produced by a Children's charity, child protection experts and a criminologist.
If you look at the introductory video you will find the following:
Written by: Mark Williams-Thomas and Professor David Wilson
Produced by: Mark Williams-Thomas
Directed by: Professor David Wilson (MWT studied at Birmingham City University under David Wilson)
Lead Animator: Jack Millard (I've looked him up but can only find a web designer)
There is absolutely NO mention of a charity on the introduction video of this website.
Prior to the video Julie Walters is heralded as an award winning actress (once again I love Julie Walter's work and won't have anything horrid said about her) but she's then further introduced as 'known to many of the new generations as Ron Weasley's mum.' (it's always good to get a bit of Harry Potter in there). However, this video which is charged for is aimed at and I quote "Aimed at teachers, parents, youth workers and others who work with children and young people."
The DVD is now sold out. Who was it sold to? How many teachers, parents, youth workers and others who work with children and young people bought it? If it was so popular why aren't there more? Did education authorities buy it?
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t7547p30-the-mark-williams-thomas-thread

Mark Williams Thomas
“After that, I got the opportunity to return as a lecturer, on the Crime Analysis module, where I talked about how crime is reported and how the media affects the public’s perception of crime. To put myself in the students’ shoes, there’s nothing better than learning from someone who is a practitioner; someone who can say ‘this is the reality, this is what it’s like’ and can contextualise things. You can read a book but it’s better to do it. And what I think I can also do is show that there are opportunities out there; if you are driven and focused and make yourself available, there is work to be had.
https://www.bcu.ac.uk/social-sciences/criminology/employability/mark-williams-thomas

[Nicholas]

There is no mention in either Michelle Diskin Bates book or her uncle Mike Bourke’ s book regarding the following claims made by Mark Williams Thomas (& Nick Dorman):

Jill Dando murder: Cops tried honeytrap to get Barry George to confess to her murder
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jill-dando-murder-cops-tried-5431123

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/gallery/barry-george-police-honeytrap-operation-5431175

Troll Exposure blog:
“Entrapment - In another post on Anna Raccoon’s site, other questions were also asked of Williams-Thomas. That post also suggests to me that Williams-Thomas was duplicating the methods he discovered as part of the 2 part ITV Documentary he fronted in 2009 “To Catch a Paedophile” for his own purposes.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1256793/I-posed-girl-14-online-What-followed-sicken-you.html
In which Williams-Thomas admitted to entrapment methods. .
https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/05/05/the-missing-link/

[Nicholas]

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted

Prof David Wilson
@ProfDavidWilson
Watching #JillDando on #BBC1 - serious and sober but 1. The miscarriage against George is significant and the circumstances of it typical of other miscarriages; 2. Why a contract killing was ruled out still baffles and is for me the most likely scenario
https://mobile.twitter.com/ProfDavidWilson/status/1113184617966825473

Gunfire Graffiti UK
@MatthewSeiber
·
3 Apr
Replying to
@ProfDavidWilson
, and
@Michelle_Diskin
I thought the documentary was excellent and well balanced. Contract killing? What was the perpetrators brief....If you happen to see Jill Dando, shoot her.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MatthewSeiber/status/1113285756871749634

 

[Nicholas]

Then again..

“This video is very interesting. Julie Walters (one of my favourite actresses and I won't have a bad word said about her) is clearly reading from an auto cue. She says that the video is co-produced by a Children's charity, child protection experts and a criminologist.
If you look at the introductory video you will find the following:
Written by: Mark Williams-Thomas and Professor David Wilson
Produced by: Mark Williams-Thomas
Directed by: Professor David Wilson (MWT studied at Birmingham City University under David Wilson)
Lead Animator: Jack Millard (I've looked him up but can only find a web designer)
There is absolutely NO mention of a charity on the introduction video of this website.
Prior to the video Julie Walters is heralded as an award winning actress (once again I love Julie Walter's work and won't have anything horrid said about her) but she's then further introduced as 'known to many of the new generations as Ron Weasley's mum.' (it's always good to get a bit of Harry Potter in there). However, this video which is charged for is aimed at and I quote "Aimed at teachers, parents, youth workers and others who work with children and young people."
The DVD is now sold out. Who was it sold to? How many teachers, parents, youth workers and others who work with children and young people bought it? If it was so popular why aren't there more? Did education authorities buy it?
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t7547p30-the-mark-williams-thomas-thread

Mark Williams Thomas
“After that, I got the opportunity to return as a lecturer, on the Crime Analysis module, where I talked about how crime is reported and how the media affects the public’s perception of crime. To put myself in the students’ shoes, there’s nothing better than learning from someone who is a practitioner; someone who can say ‘this is the reality, this is what it’s like’ and can contextualise things. You can read a book but it’s better to do it. And what I think I can also do is show that there are opportunities out there; if you are driven and focused and make yourself available, there is work to be had.
https://www.bcu.ac.uk/social-sciences/criminology/employability/mark-williams-thomas

Mark Williams-Thomas
@mwilliamsthomas
Documentary:The Dando Files Using unseen footage & documents to explore the Jill Dando murder. (link: http://youtu.be/6oKoq0GEuh0) youtu.be/6oKoq0GEuh0
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sibelhodge
@sibelhodge
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11 Aug 2017
Replying to
@mwilliamsthomas
Mark, is there anywhere I can watch this? It seems to be unavailable? Thank you :) xx
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Mark Williams-Thomas
@mwilliamsthomas
·
11 Aug 2017
Hi - sorry about that I am doing some work on the case at the moment so have taken down .
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sibelhodge
@sibelhodge
·
11 Aug 2017
Aha! Thank you for letting me know! Good luck with your research :) xx

Andrew
@REBELTROOP
·
16 Jul 2015
Replying to
@mwilliamsthomas
@mwilliamsthomas
 A very insightful documentary, on a case that needs to be reviewed at the earliest opportunity, for Jill's family.
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Mark Williams-Thomas
@mwilliamsthomas
·
16 Jul 2015
@REBELTROOP
 yes - many questions need answering . Police remain convinced Barry is the killer & won't look anywhere else
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jacqz1
@jacquiez1
·
16 Jul 2015
@mwilliamsthomas
 
@REBELTROOP
 or someone high up knows who is responsible & BG is an easy target to pin it on? Nothing surprises me anymore😱

https://mobile.twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/621664605723566080?lang=en-gb


I don’t believe this is the reason he took the video down.

[Nicholas]

Seems Michelle Diskin Bates is today seeking a defamation solicitor https://mobile.twitter.com/michelle_diskin?lang=en

”He who comes to equity must approach the court with clean hands".

Someone on Twitter has asked whether she could sue the BBC following the Jill Dando documentary. 

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1123970834740252672/photo/1

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1119322847074299904

[Nicholas]

Poppy Ann Miller™
@PoppyMeze
Wondering why the case of Barry George, who, having been totally absolved of #JillDando's murder, is considered by the #BBC to be worthy or a re-run. No-ones's getting worried about this book are they? (link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stand-Against-Injustice-wrongly-convicted-ebook/dp/B07JFZSF6V/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Barry+George&qid=1554238766&s=digital-text&sr=1-1) amazon.co.uk/Stand-Against-…   
@Michelle_Diskin
https://mobile.twitter.com/PoppyMeze/status/1113185065482235904

Nope.

[Nicholas]

Pro Norman Fenton on probability and law

Worth a listen https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RVQ6kReMLdw

[Nicholas]

Barry George’s uncle Mike claimed:

“I saw just a little of the SKY News interview but I was not impressed by what I saw and heard. It seemed to me as if Barry was reciting from a script. I almost laughed as he earnestly said that he couldn’t begin to understand what the Dando family was going through. It just didn’t sound like something which he would say without being prompted, I felt they were not his words.

I got the strong sense Michelle Diskin Bates and Barry George’s words were scripted (From their imaginations) in their recent ITV & GMB interviews; wonder if Mike Bourke felt the same?

My impression of the pair of them is that they are hiding a secret, and are codependent on each other and
Michelle Diskin Bates became her brothers enabler many years ago.

“An Irish uncle of Barry George, the convicted murderer of BBC presenter Jill Dando, protested his nephew's innocence shortly before the jury handed down the verdict yesterday. Mr Tony Bourke, from the Co Limerick village of Ballyneety, said he had been following news of the trial on Sky TV. His sister, Ms Margaret George, is the mother of Barry George and comes originally from Ballyneety.
Mr Bourke, speaking outside his bungalow home yesterday, said he was sure his nephew was innocent. He had known him as a teenager in London when he visited his elder sister's house.
At the time, Mr Bourke was working in factories there. He remembered George being interested in books and pop music.
As far as I was concerned, he was the same as any teenager. I said all along and I still say it, he is innocent. He could not have done it, no way.
"If he is found guilty, there is no way I will believe it. I will still say he is innocent."
Now semi-retired, Mr Bourke said he had returned from London in 1974 after spending 17 years there.
A bachelor, he shares his home with his brother, Michael, who was in London with other family members during the trial.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/george-s-irish-uncle-says-he-could-not-have-done-it-no-way-1.315991