Okay just for you Nine, I have dug out my 2010 diary (grumble!!) because I do think that not only snow but freezing fog, sheet & black ice and the accumulation of new snow ontop of ice, have all played their parts in this sorry case.
My diary is just for appointments etc., plus events out of the ordinary, so it's not a full account, especially when it comes to the weather. This year I have noted the awful things at Manchester, London and of course Grenfell Towers.
Oh one thing you need to know is that if you live in Bristol you don't look towards the south-west for weather, it's Cardiff we are nearest. South-west seems to be only Devon & Cornwall according to the Met!
I've taken out my swear words:
Tues November 9th 2010 - Freezing, really freezing. First day.
Wed " 17th " - Very, very wet, windy and freezing cold again.
Tues " 30th " - Frozen!
Wed Dec 1 st - Ice
Fri 3rd - Temps. not above freezing during day and bl**dy awful nights.
Sunday 5th - Snow & ice
Mon 6th - Washing machines can't be delivered because of ice and bad weather.
Wed 8th - Ice bound again.
Thurs 16th - Freezing. Later in day light snow. Still -4 daytime.
Fri 17th - Day time temps. not above freezing. Had light dusting snow evening.
Sat 18th - Stayed up to watch some of the snow, really heavy.
Sun 19th - Good 3" of snow on the bushes in back garden. Still freezing though.
Mon 20th - More hevy snow
Tues 21st - Freezing day and night.
Thurs 23rd - Sleet and rain on freezing surfaces = sheet ice. So, so cold.
That's it, by no means comprehensive, but should give you an idea of what thing were like in my neck of the woods.
Thanks again for these entries of yours Nina.... Part 1...
I believe they help point to a possible other conclusion... When Joanna Yeates body is discovered, DCI Phi Jones states that she has been on the verge for several days...
Dr Vincent Tabak was supposed to have covered Joanna Yeates with leaves and the snow did the rest... I have a hard time imagining someone leaving her on a grass verge covered in leaves in the first place....
The simplest action would have been to leave her in her own flat.... (IMO)... I do not understand the need to move her..
He's apparently just committed a murder....A murder he stated in court was an accident.... So why move the body??? There is no logical reason for this course of action.... Why not tidy up ... wipe down and close the door behind himself???
With the statement in court we discover the supposed course of events... (IMO)... And the amount of moving of a body and even going to ASDA, to me seems a ridiculous response.... He has ever possibility of been seen... He also has the possibility of being pulled over by the police.... For instance... what if he had a defective bulb on his car?? What if his driving had become erratic because he was pre-occupied with a dead body in a car boot???
For Dr Vincent Tabak to be this cunning , manipulative individual... I would have thought his best option would have been to leave her exactly where she was.... As the police have insisted .... In her Flat....!
No fibre transfer... No blood transfer... No DNA transfer... He would have had all the time in the world to carefully clean a crime scene.... Then go back home to his own flat... He didn't need to be in ASDA to create the alibi as it has been claimed being the reason for his trip... He literally could have made telephone calls or used his laptop, to put him at home....
So who ever put her on Longwood lane... did it for a reason... And Longwood lane has to have a connection to that person ..... (IMO)...
So back to DCI Phil Jones...
As a result of the findings of the post mortem, we believe that Joanna body has been in the roadside verge off Longwood Lane for Failand several days, before being discovered on Christmas morning..
Several days to me is 3 or 4... he doesn't say for over a week or about a week.... And as it snowed heavy again on Monday the 20th December 2010 , with the diary of Nina giving us the weather... it's possible that she was put there later on if she was covered in snow ....
I want to go back to DCI Phil Jones statement I have transcribed ... This statement is at a Police conference on the 28th December 2010.. The day after he becomes in charge of the Investigation...
Off Longwood Lane...??That doesn't sound like she was
On Longwood lane... (IMO)... Off me away from... so how could she be in the area they have stated that she was ?????
For instance... Canygne Road off Percival Road... wouldn't mean Joanna Yeates lived at Percival Road... would it?? So
off Longwood Lane means a different area to me .... There are many side roads/tracks off Longwood lane, so there are many places that she could have been....
The Grass Verge is definitely ON... Longwood lane!!This article I have found whilst looking at Longwood Lane has drawn my attention.... It was written on the 12th January 2011...
The Police Know something... They have to... there is no two ways about it... and this quote I will make, clearly states that they know something... And it has nothing to do with Dr Vincent Tabak....
They told police they had seen a car driving slowly up and down Longwood Lane three or four times on the morning after Jo was last seen.
Their 999 call was lodged 36 hours before Jo’s boyfriend Greg Reardon, 27, reported her missing.
Police are now considering whether the killer went back to the spot where Jo had been dumped – to assess whether to move her body to a better hiding place.
Do I hear "Alarm Bells"??????
36 hours before Greg Reardon called the Police is at 12:45pm on Saturday 18th December 2010....
Now here is where we have the real problem........
Detectives are thought to be exploring the possibility that the killer drove up and down the lane to find where he had left the body hours earlier. There is also the chance the killer may have been forced to repeatedly drive up and down the road after being disturbed by passers-by.
If they didn't know when Joanna Yeates had been killed, how did they know the killer had left her there hours earlier ????
The killer is supposed to have know where he dumped the body.... not be driving up and down looking for where he left it!!! That to me sounds like it is not clearly easy to see.... He would have surely spotted a mound...(IMO)... So she has to be somewhere that is not easily accessible (IMO)...
Remember... 'several days".... That was DCI Jones time of the body being on Longwood lane ....
Again transcript from DCI Phil Jones.....
I'm keen to hear from anybody who saw or heard anyone acting suspiciously in the Longwood lane area particularly the area near to the entrance of Durnford Quarry over the last week, but in particular the weekend of Friday December the 17th to Sunday the 19th December. This was the weekend when we experienced heavy snow in the area
So we have a couple talking about a car acting suspiciously... we have talk of a killer possibily looking for a better hiding place... And we have a police officer wanting information as to whether anybody saw a suspicious looking person on Longwood lane
that week....
That last quote is very interesting... Was Joanna Yeates moved ????? DCI Phil Jones need to know if anyone came back that week to "Perhaps" move a body... to me suggests that she had been moved... there must be some indication on her body that shows she has been moved...
The only indication that I can think of is "Lividity".... And with DCI Andrew Moss saying he had to try and stop a body from thawing... It indicate that lividity would be a possibility and blood would settle else where.... (IMO)...
Did Joanna Yeates show signs of being moved ???? If they believe that someone had been driving up and down Longwood Lane several times as wanting to find a better hiding place..... There has to be an indication that a "BODY" has been moved.... (IMO)
Why else would DCI Phil Jones need information on
someones activity over that week and implore the public to get in touch!!!
Either that or DCI Phil Jones has actually had communication from the killer, as to where Joanna Yeates maybe and also that
the Killer had been seen many times and disturbed by many people going about their activities...(IMO).. He has got to know something to be asking for assistance from the public about vehicle movement on Longwood lane during that week...... Why else is DCI Phil Jones interested
keen to hear from anybody who saw or heard anyone acting suspiciously in the Longwood lane area particularly the area near to the entrance of Durnford Quarry over the last week,??
The last week??? Something has got to indicate that she was either.....
(1): Moved
(2): Put on Longwood lane later than Friday the 17th December 2010
(3): The Police had communication with the killer
That information must rule out Dr Vincent Tabak.... (IMO)... because if Dr Vincent Tabak had any other time he couldn't account for... both DCI Phil Jones and Ann Reddrop would have been on him like a ton of bricks.... (IMO).... bringing to trial that information of him returning to try and move a body....!!!
Has Joanna Yeates got material from the quarry on her body??? Maybe there is something upon Joanna Yeates that shows she was somewhere else before being 'ON" Longwood Lane ???
There has to be a definite indication somewhere for DCI Phil Jones to be having a 'Police Conference " to appeal for information..... (IMO)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8noQpXm0HQU&t=617shttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jo-yeates-murder-cops-probe-103679http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/8265779/Joanna-Yeates-parents-make-appeal-for-information.html