Jeremy Bamber - Hartley clarifies the silencer issue

[John]

I think that the following post by Hartley made on the Bamber forum is excellent and well worth adding here.

Anyway, again as you know very well, exhibit references include the initials of the person who discovered the exhibit. It was mistakenly identified as SBJ/1 in reference to 'Stanley Brian Jones'. This error was then corrected as Jones did not discover the exhibit, David Boutflour did, so the reference DB/1 was applied. It was later discovered that there would be a clash of references as the police officer David Bird had already used 'DB' to signify exhibits discovered or produced by him. So it was eventually decided that they would use 'DRB' for David Boutflours exhibits with the 'R' representing his middle name Robert.

That is the reasoning behind the changes in exhibit reference given by the police, it is documented very well in witness statements taken around 1991 as part of the COLP investigation.

That is not my opinion, it is simply the official chain of events given by the police and is well documented.

If you want to challenge that official chain of events then please go ahead, but I'm sure you do not require my input to do so.

Thank you for the attention though.

[John]

Teskowski's conspiracy theories surrounding the sound moderator/silencer just don't wash.  They have been tested already at appeal and failed abysmally.

By the looks of things he has run out of steam now as you mentioned yesterday Tim, he is reposting old posts under pretend names now. 

You just couldn't make it up.   

[Tim Invictus]

And all the while Jeremy Bamber rots away in prison ... the Bamberettes are exposed as liars and idiots and most of them spend all day absolutely fuming about nothing and fighting with each other or threatening this forum!

It seems karma does work!

There seems to be an awful lot of sickness and malais in Tesko Towers! Do you think there is something in their water or could that just be karma too!

Other than Steph's poor hubby being wrongly imprisoned, everyone seems happy and well on this forum. And able to write in English! 

[Milly]

Teskowski's conspiracy theories surrounding the sound moderator/silencer just don't wash.  They have been tested already at appeal and failed abysmally.

By the looks of things he has run out of steam now as you mentioned yesterday Tim, he is reposting old posts under pretend names now. 

You just couldn't make it up.   

i have been readin about this latest fiasco in Arizona or someewhere in the usa where they shot a pig with a rifle similiar to the one used on sheila.  what will that prove??

[John]

Given that Mike Tesko on the Jeremy Bamber forum is again attempting to cloudy the sound moderator issue I think it is well worth explaining why the labels had their reference numbers altered.

It was standard police procedure that exhibit reference numbers should include the initials of the person who first discovered them.   The sound moderator was initially given the identifier SBJ/1 being the initials of DS Stanley Brian Jones, the police officer who collected it from the farm.

This error was subsequently corrected as DS Jones did not discover the exhibit.  In fact it was Jeremy Bamber's cousin David Boutflour who found the sound moderator so it was relabelled as DB/1.  It was later realised that this would clash with exhibits found and labelled by police officer and photographer David Bird who had already used 'DB' to signify exhibits discovered or produced by him.

It was eventually decided that they would relabel the sound moderator DRB/1 which related to David Robert Boutflour.

There is no mystery about what occurred, it is well documented in witness statements taken in 1991 as part of the COLP investigation.

[puglove]

Given that Mike Tesko on the Jeremy Bamber forum is again attempting to cloudy the sound moderator issue I think it is well worth explaining why the labels had their reference numbers altered.

It was standard police procedure that exhibit reference numbers should include the initials of the person who first discovered them.   The sound moderator was initially given the identifier SBJ/1 being the initials of DS Stanley Brian Jones, the police officer who collected it from the farm.

This error was subsequently corrected as DS Jones did not discover the exhibit.  In fact it was Jeremy Bamber's cousin David Boutflour who found the sound moderator so it was relabelled as DB/1.  It was later realised that this would clash with exhibits found and labelled by police officer and photographer David Bird who had already used 'DB' to signify exhibits discovered or produced by him.

It was eventually decided that they would relabel the sound moderator DRB/1 which related to David Robert Boutflour.

There is no mystery about what occurred, it is well documented in witness statements taken in 1991 as part of the COLP investigation.

Brilliantly explained, John. Thank you for cutting through all the bullshit.   

[John]

Given that Mike Tesko on the Jeremy Bamber forum is again attempting to cloudy the sound moderator issue I think it is well worth explaining why the labels had their reference numbers altered.

It was standard police procedure that exhibit reference numbers should include the initials of the person who first discovered them.   The sound moderator was initially given the identifier SBJ/1 being the initials of DS Stanley Brian Jones, the police officer who collected it from the farm.

This error was subsequently corrected as DS Jones did not discover the exhibit.  In fact it was Jeremy Bamber's cousin David Boutflour who found the sound moderator so it was relabelled as DB/1.  It was later realised that this would clash with exhibits found and labelled by police officer and photographer David Bird who had already used 'DB' to signify exhibits discovered or produced by him.

It was eventually decided that they would relabel the sound moderator DRB/1 which related to David Robert Boutflour.

There is no mystery about what occurred, it is well documented in witness statements taken in 1991 as part of the COLP investigation.

Brilliantly explained, John. Thank you for cutting through all the bullshit.   

Thank you Shona, now maybe Tesko can argue that David Boutflour's middle name isn't Robert for the next six months.   

[Angelo222]

Given that Mike Tesko on the Jeremy Bamber forum is again attempting to cloudy the sound moderator issue I think it is well worth explaining why the labels had their reference numbers altered.

It was standard police procedure that exhibit reference numbers should include the initials of the person who first discovered them.   The sound moderator was initially given the identifier SBJ/1 being the initials of DS Stanley Brian Jones, the police officer who collected it from the farm.

This error was subsequently corrected as DS Jones did not discover the exhibit.  In fact it was Jeremy Bamber's cousin David Boutflour who found the sound moderator so it was relabelled as DB/1.  It was later realised that this would clash with exhibits found and labelled by police officer and photographer David Bird who had already used 'DB' to signify exhibits discovered or produced by him.

It was eventually decided that they would relabel the sound moderator DRB/1 which related to David Robert Boutflour.

There is no mystery about what occurred, it is well documented in witness statements taken in 1991 as part of the COLP investigation.

The issues surrounding the silencer/sound moderator are pivotal to the JB case so I for one am not in the least surprised that the blue forum are trying (without success I might add) to discredit them.   It was mentioned a few days back that jeremy could have taken the silencer out of the farm immediately after the murders and replaced it a few says later.  We know that he could get in and out of the farmhouse at will even when it appeared to be securely locked so nothing would surprise me if he did do that.

The silencer is key to this crime.  We know that Sheila's DNA was found deep within the silencer baffles and that it in all likelihood it came from her blood which had been sucked into the silencer by the resultant back pressure created by the rifle discharge.  There is no other way her DNA/blood could have got on the baffles by accident.  Had she committed suicide the silencer would have been found on the rifle.

Red paint from the kitchen mantelpiece above the Aga cooker was also found on the knurled end of the silencer proving that it had come into contact with the mantelpiece in what was certainly a scuffle for control of the weapon.  Possibly this happened as jeremy went to get extra ammunition from the sideboard and dropped his guard for a second.  Only jeremy Bamber knows the exact sequence of events at this point in time.  We do know however that Nevill lost the fight and paid for it with his life.  He was beaten so badly that a piece of the wooden rifle stock broke off during the assault and Nevill sustained terrible damage to his head.  We also know that he was then shot three more times as he lay groaning in the chair by the Aga.

This is the reality of what happened, anything else is mere fiction.