The Defence Will State Their Case

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So we are left with 3 options: (IMO)..

(A): Ann Reddrop accepts Dr Vincent Tabaks 'Guilty Plea to manslaughter

(B): This evidence is kept from the Public and the Jury until after the verdict....

(C): The case is thrown out, because the revelation of The "Guilty Plea To Manslaughter" was already made public to
       the Nation in May 2011... Information that was made very public...Which PREJUDICED This Trial.... (IMO)

Edit.... Heres a question....

How many articles have been written about Dr Vincent Tabak admitting "Guilty to Manslaughter' before the trial has completed are there ???

If that isn't a flagrant breech of "Law of Presumption of Innocence"... I don't know what is !!!!

Double Edit:.... The Problem is... The Jury only ever had the option to find Dr Vincent Tabak "Guilty of Murder" also..... Doubly affirming that Dr Vincent Tabak's Manslaughter Plea would help in the jury deliberations ....(IMO)

Triple Edit.... Can anyone on the evidence presented and "Not Knowing".. Dr Vincent Tabak had "Pled" Guilty to "Manslaughter".. Say he was "Guilty of Murder??? ... I don't believe so...

The Evidence was only presented to show "INTENT"... And how does a couple of searches show "Intent"???

The Jury had to be fully aware that "Dr Vincent Tabak had "Plead "Guilty To Manslaughter" to start with... To evaluate that he intended to "Murder" Joanna Yeates... Or else... You have a naff story and a couple of searches to prove this.... And No Witness's that have seen Dr Vincent Tabak do anything....!!

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The jury did not hear during the trial that when police delved into Tabak's computers after his arrest they discovered an interest in hardcore pornography, some of which featured strangulation and bondage.

He accessed a portal to a pornographic site on the day he killed Yeates. Following the killing he sometimes navigated between reports about her disappearance and pornography.


Police were particularly interested in an image on one of his computers showing a slight blonde woman, resembling Yeates, with her pink top pulled up.

Police analysts also found that during business trips Tabak researched escort agencies. While in Los Angeles shortly before his attack on Yeates, police believe, he may have twice used the services of a sex worker, once after checking into a hotel under a false name.

If all that Information was supposed to be Prejudicial to Dr Vincent Tabak's trial... Then how could the fact that the Jury already knew he'd pled "Guilty to Manslaughter'... Not be seen as Predudical to Dr Vincent Tabaks trial ????

Answers to The Court of Appeal please !!!! Someone needs to do something ....(IMO)...!!!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/28/vincent-tabak-guilty-joanna-yeates-murder

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Ah.... I'm just bending my husbands ear again... And then I thought...

At Line 292 of the prosecution chart
Tabak Googled the words
‘manslaughter sentencing’
Then he went to Wikipedia website to search the words
‘manslaughter in English law murder in English law’
Tabak left work at 5.06pm \on 22 Dec 2010
and at home he Googled
‘Los Angeles murder case’

Why is this relevant?????

Why didn't the Jury pick up on this .....

Dr Vincent Tabak researching "Manslaughter in English law" would only be relevant if the Jury had an option to find him "Guilty" of "Manslaughter".... But they were not giving that option....

So that search shouldn't really be irrelevant.... It's only relevant... If the jury are aware that Dr Vincent Tabak has already "Pled guilty " to "Manslaughter "...

Reaffirmimg the Prosecutions Case ... That Dr Vincent Tabak was Cunning and deceitful...  But how can that be the case if "Manslaughter" wasn't even on the table ????

The Jury would need to know the relevance of said search ....(IMO)... Therefore showing they were already aware of Dr Vincent Tabak's "Manslaughter Plea " before their deliberations.... (IMO)...

http://www.criminal-lawyer.org.uk/39-CLN-JAN-2012.pdf

[Leonora]

Well... I learnt something today a quote from Twitter....

Well what does that say about myself...  I always thought common sense was a valid guide of understanding the basics.. Yet I seem to maybe have failed...

How do I quantify 'Common Sense" ?? How do I quantify my "Common Sense"??

Now I have always said I applied common sense to my findings... But I now seem to need to question myself....

Maybe "Common Sense" is not the words I should be using... Unless...

I turned left and picked up an NVQ on "Common Sense" instead of "Manslaughter Law"... Then maybe I could quantify my responses .... *&*%£

"Common sense" is acknowledged to be difficult to quantify. Judges expect jurors to use their common sense. I believe that common sense is what enables the majority of people to make appropriate decisions in their own lives, in most cases, without having to carry out anything like a rigorous analysis. But not everyone will agree with me.

On the other hand, common sense goes wrong in the majority of public issues that we are expected to understand and on which we form points of view.

A couple of months after VT's trial, I concluded that anyone ought to be able to see at once that the verdict was wrong, on the grounds that the prosecution never once indicated his motive. No matter how little anyone knew about the case, commonsense suggests that a person such as VT would not commit murder without a very strong motive. But evidently most people do not see it like that.

In my opinion, the sort of people who analyse murder cases online evince above-average abilities for lateral thinking, but diminished levels of common sense.

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I had never heard of it before ... You learn something new every day 

Origin
Late 16th century (in the sense ‘prove by argument or evidence’): from Latin evincere ‘overcome, defeat’

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Anyone any thought about the publics awarness of the fact that Dr Vincent tabak 'Pled "Guilty to Manslaughter"? 5 months before the trial commenced in October 2011 ??

Also that it was never entered into whether it was 'Voluntary" or "Involuntary" Manslaughter

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Another revealing quote from DCI Phil Jones :

Mr Philip Jones
The Gold Group, sir, was comprised of the Chief Constable, the gold commander was the Assistant Chief Constable for Protective Services, and the head of corporate communications, and they would meet daily. So they had an overview of the media interest and they were able to manage and deal with that, allowing me to concentrate on the investigation.

Why was Assistant Chief constable for Protective Services, Involved with the Joanna Yeates case ???

More evidence that they saw this as a Complex Crime...

Why Protective services ??? That's witness protect amongst other things....

I believe that The Assistant Chief Constable  for Protective Services is Assistant Chief Constable John Long.... The PDF I have attached lists him between 2008/2011

Why are so many high ranking officers involved in this "Simple Murder Case" ???

Protective Service Elements

Serious and Organised Crime

Our primary role is to ensure that our communities are kept safe from the threat of serious
and organised criminality such as drugs, gun crime and terrorism.
The force is continually seeking to deter, dismantle and disrupt serious and organised
criminal activity within the force area. This involves a review of our approach to intelligence
gathering and the Force Intelligence Unit to ensure that demands can be met. In addition
significant work is being undertaken with partners both locally and nationally through for
example; CDRP’s, Probation, UKBA and SOCA.

I keep coming across IBM and Southwest One.... Is that who Lyndsey Farmery worked for ??

This Southwest One is interesting...

Speaking under Parliamentary Privilege at the House of Commons on 18 September
2012, Ian Liddell-Grainger, MP for Bridgwater and West Somerset, told MPs: “There
is a booby-trap in the contract that forces Somerset to compensate IBM if spending
falls. Last week, the County Council had to take the decision to take £2.7m from
contingency funds to pay the company off. If spending remains at the current level,
which it probably will, Somerset will have to fork out £2.7m every year for the next
five years. That is £13.5m, plus a £5m subsidy to the Avon and Somerset force.”(21)

Well a lot was spent on "The Joanna Yeates Case".... that was a simple murder!! How can Policing be for profit??

Again the review was due to happened just days after they arrested Dr Vincent Tabak...

The Southwest One contract is not available to the public, and the figures for both
the amount of savings and the level of taxpayer funded investment have varied
wildly. Despite evidence of failure to make savings agreed, Somerset County Council
24
and Southwest One ended up in a legal dispute over levels of savings delivered by
Strategic Procurement Services. The company brought the case to court, saying it
was entitled to payments when savings reach a certain level.

So how many individuals that worked on the Joanna Yeates case where employed by Southwest One ??

Technology Services

Based at Police Headquarters at Portishead with a small team based at County Hall, Taunton, the department covers both Application Services & Infrastructure Services. These services provide many varied services including solutions, support, and along with developing business applications for our customers.

Portishead?? isn't that where The Joanna Yeates case Head Quarters was ???

How can the Police benefit from using this Service ??

Rewards and benefits

Wellbeing - Southwest One is committed to maintaining the work-life balance of its employees. Flexibility in working arrangements is an important tool in enabling employees to maintain or improve their balance between home and work.

Southwest One Group Stakeholder Pension Plan - Southwest One offers you membership of a group stakeholder pension plan with Scottish Life to help you save for your future. The plan will belong to you and when you save into it so will Southwest One and the taxman (unless you choose to opt out). This will boost your savings and help you to reach your retirement goals.

Life Assurance Scheme - Subject to eligibility, employees have the opportunity to join the Southwest One Group Life Assurance Plan. The benefit provided by the scheme is a lump sum benefit of four times your basic salary upon your death whilst in service.

Income Protection Plan - Subject to eligibility, employees have the opportunity to join the Income Protection Plan. This is an insured ill-health benefit, which becomes available after 5 ½ years’ continuous service.

Eye Vouchers - Southwest One will pay eyesight tests for employees who are regular computer users.

Employee Support Groups - Employees in Southwest One can now access Employee Support Groups available from Avon and Somerset Constabulary and include:-

It appears to be a complete conflict of Interests....(IMO)...  So how many people who were actual Police.. worked on the Joanna Yeates Case ??

I can't get my head around this ... It's mental...

Tracey Hayley

Public Sector
Programme Director and Head of Organisational Development
Company NamePublic Sector
Dates EmployedDec 2007 – Mar 2010  Employment Duration2 yrs 4 mos
LocationSouth West England
Delivery of first Joint Venture Company between three public sector authorities and a commercial supplier.
Legal and commercial negotiations, partnership problem solving, negotiating and influencing. Collaboration, consultation, employee relations.
Coaching, mentoring, leadership development, transformational change, cultural and organisational change. Programme Management (OGC certificate in Managing Successful Programmes).
Strategic Planning, risk management, performance and process improvement.
Corporate lead on change management, performance improvement, planning, quality and standards

She worked with Lyndsey Farmery on Operation Jupiter... Also we find :

Scott Fulton
Digital Product Manager ✔ Public Speaker ✔ Helping build digital products & teams that delight customers ✔17 years exp.
February 13, 2009, Tracy worked with Scott in the same group

The very same Scott Fulton who is Head of E services at Avon and Somerset Police... Why didn't he appear in court???  Here's what Scott says about Tracey..

have known Tracy in different roles over the years and have always found her approachable and easy to work with.

More recently she played a key role in the work involved with Avon and Somerset Constabulary's outsourcing of key back office resources to what is now the joint venture company Southwest One.

From the meetings I was involved as part of this process she never appeared phased by the sheer volume of work and detail that was involved with regard to contracts and building relationships between the organisations.

This Case is just bizarre.... 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracyhayler/

http://www.southwestone.co.uk/index.html

https://www.unison.org.uk/content/uploads/2015/09/22662.pdf

http://www.liddellgrainger.org.uk/images/DOCUMENTS/POLICE_and_Procurement.pdf

http://leveson.sayit.mysociety.org/hearing-27-march-2012/mr-philip-jones

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this gets weirder.....

Tracey Hayler... who has a connection to Nailsea... who follows on Twitter "Martin Faithful"who has only 29 followers.. The very same  PC Plod... who's written witness statement claimed he had seen Joanna Yeates, body thawing..??? Who's witness statement backed up the Birches written witness statemnet.. who found Joanna Yeates

Then it gets weirder again.... I believe another lady he follows is a Karen Faithful could be his wife ..... who has never tweeted... But has ITV Press Centre, following her amongst her only 6 followers ..... Is that how the "Leaks" happened ?? Why would ITV Press Centre have a connection to a random Police Officers wife/relative ??

These connections cannot be coincidental... Can they ????

https://twitter.com/MartinFaithfull?lang=en

https://twitter.com/KarenF71?lang=en

https://twitter.com/TracyHayler?lang=en

Why would a plod have anything to do with someone in her position???? Do they know each other on a personal level??

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Why would a Beat Bobby who area is "Redwood" see Joanna Yeates body... when realistically, it should be Senior Officers who are at the scene??

PCs Martin Faithfull and Greig Difford plus PCSOs Simon Tuong, Charlotte Thompson and Eleanor Hicks covering Redwood.

I find it odd that a PC Plod would even be at that scene to be honest... This was a massive Case... With Top Officers involved....  So why did PC Martin Faithful attend the scene ...not only that ... But becomes an integral witness, in written form.. of not only what Joanna Yeates body looked like on discovery.. But his statement which was read out  in court, I believe ..... says he was trying to stop a body from thawing....

You can't seriously believe , that they would allow a Plod right in the middle of the discovery of Joanna Yeates body... That doesn't make sense.... (IMO)..




http://www.northsomersettimes.co.uk/news/all-change-for-police-beat-teams-1-4043815

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Now this next article is extremely odd.... I'll say for why....

The Article is written by the Daily Mail, but the date of the article is

By Daily Mail Reporter
CREATED: 14:38, 24 December 2010

There are many odd things in this article..... 

(A): The connection made to Claudia lawerence, and the  Assistance North Yorkshire Police gave Avon and Somerset Police..

North Yorkshire Police and Avon and Somerset Police confirmed yesterday that they have 'liaised' over the disappearance of Jo.

(B): It's still a missing person enquiry

'It is still a missing persons inquiry, I do want to stress that, but obviously it is very, very unusual for somebody just to go missing from their address in Clifton, which is why we do have grave concerns for Joanna, which is why we are putting the level of resource we are into this,' Mr Stratford said.

(C): Expecting Dr Delaney

'A pathologist will be attending the scene to examine the body.

(D):  This next statement is extremely odd.... I think it's what Jon Stratford says....

'All we want desperately is to find Joanna safe and well, so if she can hear this, please do get in touch with us and tell us where she is and we will take very good care of her.'

That is the weirdest thing ever !!!!

(E): And Then reporting she has been found ???

Police searching for missing Jo Yeates say they have found a woman's body close to a golf course.
No identification has been made on the body which was discovered about four miles from the flat she shared with her boyfriend.
The discovery was made today by a couple walking their dogs in the Failand area of North Somerset, an Avon and Somerset Police spokesman said.

How did they report the day before she was found ?????  In part of the article they talk like she is still missing.... This is Christmas Eve... How did the daily mail already report on her being found the day before ????


 This from the Guardian on the 24th December 2010

"All we want desperately is to find Joanna safe and well, so if she can hear this, please do get in touch with us and tell us where she is and we will take very good care of her."

Same phrase..... So how is it that The Daily Mail are reporting her found and Missing at the same time on 24th December 2010????



https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/dec/24/ukcrime

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1341452/Jo-Yeates-murder-Police-search-missing-architect-finds-womans-body.html#ixzz4nm1GtiWj


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And Just to make absolutely sure of this Dailey Mail report... The report is basically Reported Twice....

Once on The 24th December 2010 and Then again on the 25th December 2010...

The two images are basically the same.... same report virtually... But On different days....


The articles are virtually identical... apart from On The 24th December 2010 article it doesn't mention The forensic tent.. And Uniformed police officers with wooden poles were searching grass verges.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1341452/Jo-Yeates-murder-Police-search-missing-architect-finds-womans-body.html#comments

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I keep going back to the flats layout.... There are 7 flats in the Building...

CJ Lived at Flat 5... he says so on 'The Lost Honour of CJ

Joanna Yeates Lived in Flat 1

Dr Vincent Tabak lived in Flat 2

How are these flats layed out....

I'll come back to that.....

I have been an idiot..... I thought the layout of Joanna Yeates flat was hallway with all the rooms leading off...ie: A door to the bedroom.. A door to the bathroom a door to the kitchen and a door to the frontroom.. I without thinking.. believed they all lead of the hallway... But that is not the case ...

I think it is the Tour Video that throw me... but it has also helped me ... looking at it again..

So you go into Joanna Yeates flat and turn left... Then you open the door to the L- Shaped front Room... Go into the Front Room then..... To your lefthand side is the door to the kitchen which is inside the front room...   I don't know why I didn't see it before... Picture blind I think...

But on the tour... they got through the hall turn right first into Joanna Yeates Bedroom, opening the door to get in..... And the doors to the front room and kitchen are already open when they go in there...

So Dr Vincent Tabak , would have had to go through the front room to get to Joanna Yeates kitchen.... but he never mentions doing this.... He says:

Tabak: She invited me in.
Defence Counsel William Clegg: Did she open the door?
Tabak: Yes
Defence Counsel: Did you take off your coat?
Tabak: Yes.
Defence Counsel: What room did you go into?
Tabak: Kitchen- both of us.

I thought it was straight from the hall to the kitchen... But it isn't...  he doesn't describe how he gets to the kitchen...  I would have imagined that she kept the front room door closed as it was very cold that time of year....

So if the settee's were closer for Dr Vincent Tabak to put Joanna Yeates on... why would he carry her to her Bedroom ??... makes no sense... (IMO)...


Now another issue is this image I have found of what is supposed to be Dr Vincent Tabak's flat.. The only image from inside....

It looks out onto the garden:

Image (1): Shows were i got the image and its description of it being Flat 2

Image (2): Is a close up of image

Image  (3): From the last honour of CJ

Image (4): The back garden... Can see a bit of lattice in bottom right hand corner ...

Image (5): Outside 47 Canygne Road

Image (6): Shows the Front Room Door which is open... And also the kitchen Door which is open

So back to image 2... It shows dining table chairs and a bit of a view out of the window onto the garden...  Now there is two possibilities for image two....  It doesn't look like it is from the front of 44 Canygne Road... Because... There is no lattice fence work at the front of CJ's house... And if it is the back of Flat 2... It then means the bay window at the back is a Dining Room and not a Bedroom....

Other possibility is that it is actually from the house on the opposite side of the street... No:47... I have googled Canygne Road and that house has the square lattice fence.... But of course now everything has over grown...

But CJ.. helps without realising... or maybe he does.... In The Lost Honor of CJ.. there's a shot of him looking across the road as the police are about to turn up... and you can clearly see the Lattice fence around that house... also it isn't as over grown...

But I really think it's 47 Canygne Road the picture of the Dining Room....  Because I can see a Pampas grass to the left of the lattice fence ... which would be to the right/centre in the dining room picture....

Why were the press provided this image ???  All the imagery is there to confuse I believe...

Edit:.... When was that photograph from what is supposed to be flat 2 44, Canygne Road taken??? I say this because the article it comes from is 22nd January 2011... And daffodils do not grow that early as far as I know ... March is normally the time of year you would see them... That has to be the year before ..(IMO)..

 So who took the photograph??????? Of a Flat, they say is Flat 2 44,Canygne Road , that no-one had any reason to look at for any crime the year before ....??? Weird !!
 So it cannot be Dr Vincent Tabak's flat !!!!!!

Double Edit.. I know why I thought the Hallway was T- shaped... It's because they turn right to go into Joanna Yeates bedroom...  And I just assumed that the Hallway was T- shaped.... When in fact in reality the Hallway is L-Shaped.. Trick of the mind... (Clever on their part)...we see what we want to see.... Or.. Should I say we see what they want us to see.... (IMO) But you lot probably already knew that... it was just me who seemed to have missed it...!

http://www.criminal-lawyer.org.uk/39-CLN-JAN-2012.pdf

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8822459/Jury-shown-inside-Joanna-Yeates-flat.html

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/324139/weeping-girl-tipped-off-jo-police/




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Well as I said.... The Flats have been causing me a headache....  And trying to establish, how the building is set out...

When watching CJ... In The lost Honour of CJ... He says he is in flat 5.....  For the past few days my heads been going round and round... trying to work out what is staring me in the face.... I know I am missing something... That is obvious..

And I believe I say it many many times... Even though I do not realise I am doing....

The Police NEVER go down the side of the building to collect anything from The Flat at the rear.... Never......  And it's bothered me... I keep asking WHY????

And I believe that Dr Vincent Tabak didn't actually live in the Flat at the back of the building...(IMO)....  We only have the media's word that he did....

Reasons I believe he lives in the house....

(A): Dr Vincent Tabak says he collects his car off the road...... That wouldn't be too far from the communal front
       door...

(B): Mrs Lowman Mentioned about The Communal flat...

(C): We never see the Forensic take anything from the back Ground floor flat...

(D): Dr Vincent Tabak Moved out....


Lets look at (D): ...Dr Vincent Tabak moved out of Canygne Road because of all of the disturbance... Police in and out... He was upset with all the comings and goings....

Well if the Police are never seen to be going around the back of the building and are only going in side the building.. that would follow that, the disturbance is more.... Dr Vincent Tabak and Tanja should in all honesty not be disturbed once they have entered their home if they lived at the back of the building (IMO)...

But  inside the house... The Police are at it none stop..... Up and down stairs constantly asking questions... taking statements etc.....  Very unsettling indeed....

Lets think why the Police would possibly think that Dr Vincent Tabak had colluded with CJ.....

I believe  it's because they probably lived on the same floor of the building.... CJ is not going to pop off around the back of the building to bang on Dr Vincent Tabak's door to ask him for assistance in moving a body... (IMO)..

Back to "Holland".... Dr Vincent Tabak and Tanja would need to see CJ's car..... And what they says is that it changed position....

How would they notice ????...  If apparently they used the little gate to exit and went down past Joanna Yeates flat to get to what everyone is saying is their flat....

They wouldn't.... But if they come in the little gate and go across the grass to get to the communal door.. Then they would see CJ's car....  Other wise they wouldn't (IMO)...

I started looking online to find things out about the flats at Canygne Road... And I found this: It list Flat 3 as the Ground Floor Flat....

Flat 3 Ground, 44, Canynge Road, Bristol, City Of Bristol BS8 3LQ
£300,000   Flat, Leasehold, Residential   24 Jan 2001
£143,000   Flat, Leasehold, Residential   23 Feb 1999   

It also list this one too:

Ground Floor Flat, 44, Canynge Road, Bristol, Avon BS8 3LQ
£97,500   Flat, Leasehold, Residential   05 Mar 19991 bedroom
£61,500   Flat, Leasehold, Residential   30 Sep 1996   
£73,500   Flat, Leasehold, Residential   17 Nov 1995   

I thought... Dr Vincent Tabak doesn't live in the flat at the back of the building..... If as Ann Reddrop states... that they had been planning Dr Vincent Tabak's arrest since late December... Then this picture got me thinking...

They used it when they arrested CJ... But I don't think CJ lives in that flat.... therefore it has to be Dr Vincent Tabak's (IMO)...  Everything is done for a purpose....

Take the image I put up yesterday.... Of what was supposed to be Dr Vincent Tabak's Room... well he would see the house Opposite if he was higher up....

I believe the gardens are communal....  both front and back.... Maybe that is why "Bernard The Cat had Two Cat Trays"....

I was thinking about how "Bernard could have gotten into Dr Vincent Tabak's Flat:... and it's unlikely if they are at the back...  and in the cold they are hardly going to leave the door open... But the communal Front Door is open all the time ... People in and out...  And then we have the Layout of Dr Vincent Tabak's Flat....

Remember, the odd shaped "Corner Store"......  That shouldn't appear on a plan of the house... If its underground... The odd shaped corner bit... Is the entrance to the building.... It doesn't continue up the building.... So why would it go down into the ground like that ??? It wouldn't  (IMO).... Meaning Dr Vincent Tabak's Flat is inside the building and Not at the back of the building.....

It's the imagery again.... Put pictures in the paper of Dr Vincent Tabak being in the back garden and you associate him with the ground Floor Flat....  But if it's communal.... then he could have been in it at anytime ....

Now I did find a picture which I'll attach of three people going into the communal door... A man and 2 woman....  Dr Vincent Tabak did say that he was allowed to return to collect some of his things.... 


Is the man in the picture Dr Vincent Tabak ???? I believe it possibly is.... (IMO)... He's very tall..... The two woman in the photo are just waiting at the entrance... Now if they don't live there they wouldn't be allowed in to what potentially is a 'Crime Scene"....

So... if we take into account that Dr Vincent Tabak moved out.... and Karen Thomas seeing Dr Vincent Tabak on the 22nd December 2010 as she says... That's also likely if the Police are wandering around the main house knocking on doors....

Why would he feel he needs the Polices permission to enter his flat if he lived around the back??? They Flat at the back of the building doesn't effect anything... It's seperate .... So Dr Vincent Tabak and Tanja should be able to come freely....

Now if they live inside the building... then the comings and goings would be problematic for a Police force trying to gain access to these flats...

So I put it to everyone.... Dr Vincent Tabak didn't live at the back of the building... (IMO).. he lived inside it!!!

Think about it..... who's around at court to say... which Flat that they actually lived in ?????

CJ never says anything publicly... I don't know why he doesn't ... But there must be a jolly good reason he has...  And no-one else in the building has spoken publicly either....

So... In the last honour of CJ.. we can see what The Basement flat looks like when CJ goes to the door... and it is not layed out quite like it should be ...  And maybe that was CJ's little way of showing us the difference between the flats... And NOT that "Greg" actually meet Dr Vincent Tabak.... It was a way for CJ to let us know about that Flat (IMO).....

In The Lost Honour of CJ... He goes to Dr Vincent Tabak's flat for jump leads.... Now this is in the Daylight.... "Greg: went at Night-time as we all know... So there has to be a reason... that CJ added that scene to 'The lost Honour of CJ"...

I'll leave you all to ponder my conclusions about the Flat that Dr Vincent Tabak lived in at 44, Canygne Road...

And if he didn't live at the back of the building.. What possible reason would he have to walk past Joanna Yeates kitchen ????
 
It's always the DEFENCE... that has given us the Story of how Dr Vincent Tabak came across Joanna Yeates on the night of Friday 17th December 2010...  Well the DEFENCE has told so many untruths... (IMO).. 

Remember The Flat in Canygne Road that they say CJ put up for sale ..... Was it the one that Dr Vincent Tabak lived in ??? Because in the pictures of the "Bedroom".. Theres a dressing table in the corner... And "Dressing Tables are normally associated with woman and not normally men...... (IMO)...

So is that Flat that was for sale... The Flat that Dr Vincent Tabak lived in?? It's possible... Just like it is Very Possible that Dr Vincent Tabak actually lived inside the main building.. and not at the back as The Police nad Media have lead us to believe...!!!


As we have come to learn.... ANYTHING is possible in This Case !!!!


N:B... I again am not suggesting CJ has done anything untoward ....!!!

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/BS8-3LQ.html



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Another reason I don't believe it's the back ground floor flat... Is Dr Vincent tabak's response to the defence when asked about his phone ....

Defence Counsel: Can you look at item where you sent message to Tanja ‘missing you’
Can you remember if you sent it before you decided to go to Asda.
Recapping- you come off the Internet at 7.37pm (our entry 47) & remain in your flat until
9.29pm (our entry 88).
How soon before that did you left your flat?
Phone?
Did you normally take the phone when you went out?
Tabak: Yes.

Dr Vincent Tabak replies:

Defence Counsel: When at home, where was the phone kept?
Tabak: In a little room.

In A Little Room...!!!  Not The second bedroom!!!!! Is there even a second bedroom in Dr Vincent Tabaks Flat????

Defence Counsel: Where was the car?
Tabak: On the street.

Why would this car be on the street when it has a designated car Parking space... Tanja apparently didn't use it that evening.... They didn't use it to go to work... So why would they park it on the street.... ????

Defence Counsel: Then you took the body out to the street?
Tabak: No. I backed the car into the drive.

Now think about that.... Because, it's important....

Defence Counsel: Was the car facing Canynge Road?
Tabak: No. The back of the car was facing Canynge Road.

And BINGO.... there it is .... he backed the car from the designated car parking space.... to be level with the communal front door... That is why the boot is facing the road....... (IMO)..

If he lived in the flat at the back of the building... he wouldn't need to move it to put a body into the boot...(IMO)...

That answer always threw me.... I thought it was a double meaning... But I don't think so.... I believe that Dr Vincent Tabak reversed his car from the Designated Parking Space to outside the building..... lets just work out why.....

On the first quote below... The Defence asks where the car was.... But... when it comes to the next quote....

Defence Counsel: Where was the car?
Tabak: On the street.

Clegg deliberatley asks if the car was facing "Canygne Road"... and Not The Street..... Making a definate difference ...(IMO)....

Defence Counsel: Was the car facing Canynge Road?
Tabak: No. The back of the car was facing Canynge Road

So I believe that Dr Vincent Tabak's car was already in the car park... he just backed it down a little to the communal front door ....(IMO)...

Dr Vincent Tabak's answer about..... "The Drive".... would he call it "The Drive" ???? The words The Drive is very English.... I'm sure most would call it The Driveway... And not simply "The Drive"...

As I have said... I believe that the words that come out of Dr Vincent Tabak's mouth on the witness stand have been written for him... he signs a statement in September 2011... But we don't know the content...

So who said the words 'The Drive"...  because I don't believe it would be a term that a Dutch National would use .....(IMO)...



http://www.criminal-lawyer.org.uk/39-CLN-JAN-2012.pdf

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I have just text my Dutch Brother In-law....  My question....

Would the Dutch say: "The Drive" or "The Driveway" ??

His answer.....

The Driveway I guess!

I'm just now trying to establish what he would call it if you pulled your car up to the side of house.... because why would he say... 'The Driveway I guess????? as a response of a Dutch National describing 'The Drive "......

My Brother In-law ... shouldn't be having to Guess... If it is something that The Dutch Call the private road/street at the side of a house .... (IMO)...

Makes Dr Vincent Tabaks talking about The Drive more intriguing.. (IMO)...

Makes me wonder if when Dr Vincent Tabak says "Street" he actually means the private road at the side of the house.....
Commonly know to us English as The Drive


Edit.... My brother In-law... didn't know in which context I meant the question....!