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Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #360 on: October 28, 2018, 06:11:40 PM »
We are referring to a child of 14 years old

Don't you find his lack of emotional response remarkable?

[Name removed]'s mother referred to him as a sociopath

No I do not, we do not all react how others expect - any emotion would have been under scrutiny as was his lack of emotion.

She is bound to think/say that - he was on trial for killing her daughter. She could not have thought that before Jodi was murdered because no mother would allow her young daughter to be associated with a sociopath.

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Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #361 on: October 28, 2018, 06:15:09 PM »
No I do not, we do not all react how others expect - any emotion would have been under scrutiny as was his lack of emotion.

She is bound to think/say that - he was on trial for killing her daughter. She could not have thought that before Jodi was murdered because no mother would allow her young daughter to be associated with a sociopath.

She would have said so surely if it was so clearly obvious - before not after the murder

Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #362 on: October 28, 2018, 06:19:17 PM »
She would have said so surely if it was so clearly obvious - before not after the murder

I would say so - on another note, I do not think a child can be diagnosed as a sociopath.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #363 on: October 28, 2018, 07:01:43 PM »
She would have said so surely if it was so clearly obvious - before not after the murder

"Campaigner Sandra Lean, who accompanied Mitchell's mum Corinne to an appeal hearing in Edinburgh last week, wrote a response to Judy's comments.

She said: "Luke Mitchell did not kill Jodi. Someone else did. That someone has evaded justice in part because police targeted Luke without any evidence."

Corinne added: "Never once has anyone disrespected Jodi.

"Luke is not a sociopath. Judy, are you qualified to make this diagnosis, with one short hug when a child was in shock?
"
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mum-murdered-jodi-jones-brands-1105317
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #364 on: October 30, 2018, 09:12:26 AM »
No I do not, we do not all react how others expect - any emotion would have been under scrutiny as was his lack of emotion.

She is bound to think/say that - he was on trial for killing her daughter. She could not have thought that before Jodi was murdered because no mother would allow her young daughter to be associated with a sociopath.

The Authenticity Paradox

Who is the authentic Luke Mitchell?

"Authenticity isn’t the presence of something, but the absence of everything that isn’t authentic
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Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #365 on: October 30, 2018, 10:43:36 AM »
She would have said so surely if it was so clearly obvious - before not after the murder

Why would she?

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #366 on: October 30, 2018, 10:45:15 AM »
"Campaigner Sandra Lean, who accompanied Mitchell's mum Corinne to an appeal hearing in Edinburgh last week, wrote a response to Judy's comments.

She said: "Luke Mitchell did not kill Jodi. Someone else did. That someone has evaded justice in part because police targeted Luke without any evidence."

Corinne added: "Never once has anyone disrespected Jodi.

"Luke is not a sociopath. Judy, are you qualified to make this diagnosis, with one short hug when a child was in shock?
"
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mum-murdered-jodi-jones-brands-1105317

Sandra Lean claimed Luke Mitchell was targeted by the police without any evidence.

Who agrees with this?

Has her narrative of this belief since changed?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #367 on: November 02, 2018, 06:17:22 PM »
Label aside - how much weed did Luke Mitchell claim he smoked each week?

Why did he self medicate?

And why did his mother allow it and why didn't she seek out professional help for him?

"[24] The Crown led evidence to undermine the credibility of Corinne Mitchell. In particular, evidence was led that she was present when the appellant obtained a tattoo in October 2003, and that she had confirmed his age as being over 18. This tattoo depicted a skull with flames coming from it. Mrs Mitchell had stated to members of staff - "that's really him". The Crown's position was that this evidence demonstrated an unhealthy relationship between the appellant and his mother, to the point where she was indulging inappropriate behaviour on his part, and undermined her evidence in support of his alibi. The witness denied several of these allegations. Evidence from members from staff at the tattoo parlour, as well as expert fingerprint evidence of a consent form signed in the name of an acquaintance of Mrs Mitchell with the appellant's fingerprints upon it, was led. This evidence was subject to a defence objection. It was admitted but the jury was directed that it was only relevant to Mrs Mitchell's credibility.
https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=e2988aa6-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #368 on: November 02, 2018, 06:24:34 PM »
Some people will rob and lie to get money for drugs making them not trust worthy. Even that doesnt apply to all

From personal experience, I have to say a family member of mine tried weed at around the same age. Didnt commit any crime, didnt lie steal or cheat to get it

It made him hungry and in need of cake! thats all

Teenagers are a strange species at times but thankfully they usually grow out of it

[25] The Crown also referred to the appellant's police statements at interview. In particular, in his closing submissions, the Advocate depute referred, at length, to excerpts from an interview on 14 August 2003. it was suggested that the appellant came across as calculating, clever and dishonest. Reference was made to contradictory statements concerning the failure to raise the alarm when the deceased failed to meet the appellant; to lies regarding his use of cannabis and the amount of contact he had had with Kimberley Thomson; and to outbursts which demonstrated the appellant's temper and arrogance. It was also suggested that the appellant's claim that no time had been fixed for meeting with the deceased and his description of his movements on the evening of the murder were incredible and that his assertion that he thought that the deceased had not turned up perhaps because she had been grounded did not make sense, given his prior conversation with Alan Ovens.
https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=e2988aa6-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #369 on: November 02, 2018, 06:38:30 PM »
Some people will rob and lie to get money for drugs making them not trust worthy. Even that doesnt apply to all

"He also denies charges of possessing knives in public places and being concerned in the supply of cannabis resin to other school pupils, including Jodi.

The trial continues.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4098795.stm
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #370 on: November 02, 2018, 06:42:10 PM »
[25] The Crown also referred to the appellant's police statements at interview. In particular, in his closing submissions, the Advocate depute referred, at length, to excerpts from an interview on 14 August 2003. it was suggested that the appellant came across as calculating, clever and dishonest. Reference was made to contradictory statements concerning the failure to raise the alarm when the deceased failed to meet the appellant; to lies regarding his use of cannabis and the amount of contact he had had with Kimberley Thomson; and to outbursts which demonstrated the appellant's temper and arrogance. It was also suggested that the appellant's claim that no time had been fixed for meeting with the deceased and his description of his movements on the evening of the murder were incredible and that his assertion that he thought that the deceased had not turned up perhaps because she had been grounded did not make sense, given his prior conversation with Alan Ovens.
https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=e2988aa6-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7

Have you ever come across a case where the prosecution painted the defendant in a favourable light? I haven't either!

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #371 on: November 02, 2018, 07:55:33 PM »
"In addition, it had been accepted that the publicity in itself was not of what could be called an improper nature. For example, it did not involve the revelation of previous convictions

What previous convictions?

[55] Most of the publicity had occurred in the immediate aftermath of the death of the deceased. It was a matter of concession that, by around September 2003, the intensity of the coverage had very largely died down. In that connection reference was made to pages 70 to 71 of the transcript of proceedings of 6 October 2004. In addition, it had been accepted that the publicity in itself was not of what could be called an improper nature. For example, it did not involve the revelation of previous convictions.
https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=e2988aa6-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #372 on: November 02, 2018, 08:01:36 PM »
"He also denies charges of possessing knives in public places and being concerned in the supply of cannabis resin to other school pupils, including Jodi.

The trial continues.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4098795.stm

"He was also found guilty of a separate charge of supplying cannabis.

Luke Mitchell was a liar! And clearly not to be trusted!

Drug paraphanalia was found in his bedroom. Why did he choose to lie about the fact he was supplying cannibis to other children?

And WHY did his mother allow this?  Or turn a blind eye to it?

These FACTS were certainly not favourable!
« Last Edit: November 02, 2018, 08:11:59 PM by Stephanie »
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Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #373 on: November 02, 2018, 08:10:35 PM »
"He was also found guilty of a separate charge of supplying cannabis.

Luke Mitchell was a liar! And clearly not to be trusted!

Drug parphanilia was found in his bedroom. Why did he choose to lie about the fact he was supplying cannibis to other children?

And WHY did his mother allow this?  Or turn a blind eye to it?

Just because he was found guilty of those charges does not mean he was lying - how many other people have pleaded not guilty to crimes and subsequently found guilty only to be later exonerated? I do not agree that everyone who smokes cannabis is untrustworthy - from what I recall it was, in fact, Jodi's relative who supplied both Luke and Jodi with cannabis as admitted by the relative himself, lets just sweep that under the carpet and blame Luke for everything!

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #374 on: November 02, 2018, 08:13:26 PM »
Just because he was found guilty of those charges does not mean he was lying - how many other people have pleaded not guilty to crimes and subsequently found guilty only to be later exonerated? I do not agree that everyone who smokes cannabis is untrustworthy - from what I recall it was, in fact, Jodi's relative who supplied both Luke and Jodi with cannabis as admitted by the relative himself, lets just sweep that under the carpet and blame Luke for everything!

You are clearly missing the point! The relative told the truth whereas Mitchell lied!
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation