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Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #720 on: November 13, 2018, 10:38:40 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_trauma

“In time, emotional exhaustion may set in, leading to distraction, and clear thinking may be difficult or impossible. Emotional detachment, as well as dissociation or "numbing out" can frequently occur. Dissociating from the painful emotion includes numbing all emotion, and the person may seem emotionally flat, preoccupied, distant, or cold.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_detachment

“Emotional detachment often arises from psychological trauma in early years as well as throughout adulthood, and is a component in many anxiety and stress disorders. The person, while physically present, moves elsewhere in the mind, and in a sense is "not entirely present", making them sometimes appear preoccupied.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociation_%28psychology%29

“In mild cases, dissociation can be regarded as a coping mechanism or defense mechanisms in seeking to master, minimize or tolerate stress”


Surprised you do not know all this what with your expertise!

https://www.acast.com/theywalkamongus/season2-episode14

"....He was not fazed or shocked or panicking. I have never seen someone so cool
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #721 on: November 13, 2018, 10:44:58 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_trauma

“In time, emotional exhaustion may set in, leading to distraction, and clear thinking may be difficult or impossible. Emotional detachment, as well as dissociation or "numbing out" can frequently occur. Dissociating from the painful emotion includes numbing all emotion, and the person may seem emotionally flat, preoccupied, distant, or cold.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_detachment

“Emotional detachment often arises from psychological trauma in early years as well as throughout adulthood, and is a component in many anxiety and stress disorders. The person, while physically present, moves elsewhere in the mind, and in a sense is "not entirely present", making them sometimes appear preoccupied.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociation_%28psychology%29

“In mild cases, dissociation can be regarded as a coping mechanism or defense mechanisms in seeking to master, minimize or tolerate stress”


Surprised you do not know all this what with your expertise!

Luke Mitchell stated:
"Just because I am more violent than others and cut myself, does that justify some pompous git of a teacher to refer me to a psychiatrist?
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Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #722 on: November 13, 2018, 10:52:22 AM »
"Even more worryingly, he also acquired a fascination with knives. His older brother, Shane, had a knife collection and Mitchell gathered his own array. At a party six weeks before killing Jones, he repeatedly jabbed her in the leg with a knife he had been using to cut up cannabis.

Although she was clearly devoted to Mitchell, Jones was not his only girlfriend. He had also been seeing at least two other girls and may even have been grooming them to see which would make the most suitable victim.

One of them was Kara van Nuil, now 17, who met him at army cadets in 2003. He wooed her with romantic text messages but their relationship ended abruptly after he followed her into the cadet hut one night, crept up on her, put his arm around her neck and placed a knife to her throat. Later he tried to laugh it off but van Nuil had been terrified. One month later he killed Jodi Jones.

Another of Mitchell’s girlfriends was 15-year-old Kimberley Thomson, from Kenmore, Perthshire who he had been seeing for about a year before the murder. They had met while he was on holiday and kept in touch. Her resemblance to Jones was uncanny.

Mitchell had arranged to go and stay with Thomson for a fortnight shortly after school broke up. At some point, he was going to have to break this news to Jones.

Dobbie said: "There is a potential Jodi found out about Luke’s planned holiday with Kimberley that Monday. I think he told her at lunchtime."

So Shane had a collection of knives whereas Luke had a fascination - can you see the prejudice comparison?

There is nothing conclusive in this article, just a lot of maybe's and speculation. But of course they have to justify the conviction, because the evidence presented in court certainly does not!

Why do people think it is so sinister to have a knife collection? Read up on it, it is a hobby in which a lot of people partake! I am not interested in sensationalised news reports!

Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #723 on: November 13, 2018, 10:55:21 AM »
Luke Mitchell stated:
"Just because I am more violent than others and cut myself, does that justify some pompous git of a teacher to refer me to a psychiatrist?

I would like to see what was said in its full context - not cherry-picked. Define violent, a few fights in school? Does this not happen in every school? And, he cut himself? Tragically, so do a lot of young people.


Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #724 on: November 13, 2018, 11:00:53 AM »
"Just because I have chosen to follow the teachings of Satan doesn't mean I need psychiatric help."

He also admitted stubbing out cigarettes on his hand as a "party trick" and had scratched the numbers 666 on his upper-right forearm with a compass

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4187007.stm
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #725 on: November 13, 2018, 11:05:02 AM »
And what his relationship was like with his mother

"When Mrs Mitchell went into the witness box during the trial, despite repeated suggestions from the prosecution that she had lied, she showed no sign of the short fuse Luke told a psychiatrist he had inherited from his mother.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1481697/Lies-to-protect-a-son.html

He's already been proved guilty in a court of law and my perceptions are based on his quite apparent criminal mind and conduct, amongst a wealth of other relevant factors.

There's no getting away from the fact Luke Mitchell showed a dark side to his character at a young age regardless of how some people may have dismissed or minimised them over the years.

At 14 years old, we know he was self medicating on large quantites of illegal drugs from his own admission for starters. Was this in order to attempt to suppress his feelings and dark sadistic fantasies?
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Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #726 on: November 13, 2018, 11:06:00 AM »
"Just because I have chosen to follow the teachings of Satan doesn't mean I need psychiatric help."

He also admitted stubbing out cigarettes on his hand as a "party trick" and had scratched the numbers 666 on his upper-right forearm with a compass

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4187007.stm

Perhaps you should read up on how many people do follow the church of Satan - But again this could all be sensationalised, it is in the news after all...

Keep trying Stephanie - you may one day find some HARD evidence to prove guilt...


Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #727 on: November 13, 2018, 11:07:01 AM »
Perhaps you should read up on how many people do follow the church of Satan - But again this could all be sensationalised, it is in the news after all...

Keep trying Stephanie - you may one day find some HARD evidence to prove guilt...

We aren't discussing ALL people!

ALL people aren't serving life sentences for the murder of [Name removed]!

It would be interesting to learn what Luke Mitchell's supporters understanding and interpretations are of the criminal spin. And the impact of his mothers parenting style and the effect it had on him; which appears to have been both "uninvolved" and "permissive?"

Do Luke Mitchell supporters really believe Craig Dobbie hadn't evaluated Luke Mitchell's psychology?

https://www.scotsman.com/news/police-mitchell-holiday-plan-led-to-jodi-s-murder-1-1401837

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/year-old-murdered-in-dalkeith-itn-scotland-midlothian-news-footage/682496148
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Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #728 on: November 13, 2018, 11:11:02 AM »
We aren't discussing ALL people!

ALL people aren't serving life sentences for the murder of [Name removed]!

No! But you put it out there like he is the only person in the world to be a little bit different - he is not!

I do not care if he was convicted in a court of law - plenty of people have been exonerated after being convicted. You just repeat the same things over and over. Perhaps you could find something new to argue? Oh sorry I forgot, what allegedly proves guilt is very minimal in this case!

Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #729 on: November 13, 2018, 11:14:36 AM »
As a further note how could Dobbie "evaluate" Luke's psychology? LIKE YOU he is NOT a psychologist!

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #730 on: November 13, 2018, 11:27:19 AM »
It would be interesting to learn what Luke Mitchell's supporters understanding and interpretations are of the criminal spin. And the impact of his mothers parenting style and the effect it had on him; which appears to have been both "uninvolved" and "permissive?"
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Luke Mitchell stated:
"Just because I am more violent than others and cut myself, does that justify some pompous git of a teacher to refer me to a psychiatrist?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4187007.stm
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #731 on: November 13, 2018, 11:32:35 AM »
You claim you do not rely on hearsay but you sure do when it comes to the relationship between Luke and his mother  *&^^&

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #732 on: November 13, 2018, 11:39:09 AM »
As a further note how could Dobbie "evaluate" Luke's psychology? LIKE YOU he is NOT a psychologist!

According to Richard Hoskins, Craig Dobbie consulted with him in order to help him understand why Luke Mitchell murdered [Name removed].

"Whilst working at Bath Spa University, Richard Hoskins was called upon by the Metropolitan Police Service to work as an expert witness in the Torso in the Thames case.[2] He has since been called as an expert witness in over a hundred criminal cases, including numerous high-profile murders, such as those of Victoria Climbié,[4] Jodi Jones and the Eric Bikubi and Magalie Bamu case.[5][6][7][8] Hoskins has been called upon to provide commentary on these cases and the related field by numerous press organisations.[9][10][11][12][13] He is an expert on African religions.[14][15][16][17][18][19][20] He is the only registered multi-cultural expert on the UK national police SOCA database.[2][21][22][23] https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Richard_Hoskins.html

He claims to have been profoundly affected by the [Name removed]'s case
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DyyAmjhB-koC&pg=PT207&lpg=PT207&dq=richard+hoskins+jodi+jones+murder&source=bl&ots=hsAyk5XLGi&sig=Hvf223lApZ2GelCI_ezF_sbyWaw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiA6ZSLw87dAhVBCuwKHVG1DWkQ6AEwAnoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=richard%20hoskins%20jodi%20jones%20murder&f=false
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Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #733 on: November 13, 2018, 11:40:41 AM »
He did not evaluate Luke did he? He made up his mind on the nature of the crime, not through evaluating Luke!

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #734 on: November 13, 2018, 11:42:37 AM »
Perhaps you should read up on how many people do follow the church of Satan - But again this could all be sensationalised, it is in the news after all...

Keep trying Stephanie - you may one day find some HARD evidence to prove guilt...

Perhaps you should read up on the criminal spin and focus on Luke Mitchell's behaviour, emotions and cognition!

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