and how many of those had killed family members and then immediately afterwards killed themselves? that is what i am trying to find out i.e "murder" suicides, thanks for the link to the transcript.
Most parents who for whatever reason(s) feel the only option is to end the life of their children and then commit suicide are in the main thwarted by the practical obstacles of carrying out such acts. WHF removed these obstacles in that it contained readily accessible firearms and ammunition allowing life to be extinguished with the pull of a very light trigger.
Consider the following cases:
Lianne Smith who suffocated her children to death and then attempted to commit suicide by cutting her wrists, throats and drowning.
Thereasa Riggi who stabbed her children to death and then attempted to take her life by jumping out a window. She subsequently died of "natural causes" at Rampton High security prison.
Rachel James attempted to stab her two sons to death. One died the other survived. She then attempted to take her own life by hanging but the cord broke. She subsequently took her own life on the 14th anniversary of her son's death by setting herself on fire in a WC on a train.
Harrowing stories but imagine if these women had access to firearms. Do you think they would still choose the methods they did to murder their children and then fail in their initial attempts to take their own life?