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stephen25000

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Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2015, 07:51:58 PM »
Quote from: davel on December 29, 2015, 07:47:54 PM
the court ruled the injuries were caused by the PJ...absolute fact

what evidence do you have that the judgement would not have been upheld in the Uk...none

Read what Luz posted.
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Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2015, 07:57:48 PM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on December 29, 2015, 07:42:45 PM
Very original.

She had injuries, by persons unknown.

The Portuguese judgement would not have been upheld in the UK.

http://www.dn.pt/portugal/interior/caso-joana-relacao-mantem-penas-a-exinspectores-1882361.html


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All the PJ officers previously accused by the murderess Leonor Cipriano were immediately considered innocent in her Court Sentence session.

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano

« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2013, 08:39:17 PM »

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It's an open document in FARO Court of Law, go there and look for yourself - I did.



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Which document are you referring to...
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Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2015, 07:59:24 PM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on December 29, 2015, 07:51:58 PM
Read what Luz posted.

luz never supplied a link..luz was lying...propaganda
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Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2015, 08:02:16 PM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on December 29, 2015, 07:42:45 PM
Very original.

She had injuries, by persons unknown.

The Portuguese judgement would not have been upheld in the UK.

http://www.dn.pt/portugal/interior/caso-joana-relacao-mantem-penas-a-exinspectores-1882361.html


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All the PJ officers previously accused by the murderess Leonor Cipriano were immediately considered innocent in her Court Sentence session.

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano

« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2013, 08:39:17 PM »

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It's an open document in FARO Court of Law, go there and look for yourself - I did.



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you have criticised posters for cutting and pasting things they do not understand...

100% you do not understand what the article you have provided a link to means...not even an inkling...not a clue
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Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2015, 08:08:32 PM »
The torture of Cipriano was proved in court and never overturned...as amarals conviction was never overturned...more evidence of the dishonest propaganda in this case
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stephen25000

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Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2015, 08:14:43 PM »
Quote from: davel on December 29, 2015, 08:02:16 PM
you have criticised posters for cutting and pasting things they do not understand...

100% you do not understand what the article you have provided a link to means...not even an inkling...not a clue

Why don't you ask Luz.

She appears quite neutral in this case.
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stephen25000

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Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2015, 08:17:48 PM »
Quote from: davel on December 29, 2015, 08:08:32 PM
The torture of Cipriano was proved in court and never overturned...as amarals conviction was never overturned...more evidence of the dishonest propaganda in this case


You really need to read around.

Likewise, Correia's involvement in this case is also relevance.


Let's not forget either, Cipriano is a convicted murderer and liar.
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Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2015, 08:18:01 PM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on December 29, 2015, 08:14:43 PM
Why don't you ask Luz.

She appears quite neutral in this case.

you posted a link to an article which you do not have a clue what it means..if that isn't bizarre you then claim Luz was quite neutral....even more bizarre..I'm starting to worry for you
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stephen25000

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Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2015, 08:22:34 PM »
' Three officers, Leonel Marques, Paulo Pereira Cristovao and Paulo Marques Bom, were acquitted of torture.' 


............and from elsewhere

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/04/leonor-cipriano-condemned-to-seven-more.html

« Last Edit: December 29, 2015, 08:29:35 PM by stephen25000 »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2015, 08:45:26 PM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on December 29, 2015, 08:22:34 PM
' Three officers, Leonel Marques, Paulo Pereira Cristovao and Paulo Marques Bom, were acquitted of torture.' 


............and from elsewhere

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/04/leonor-cipriano-condemned-to-seven-more.html

could you provide a cite which shows they were acquitted...the one you have posted makes no mention of an acquittal...you obviously haven't read it


  your claims are totally untrue and pure propaganda
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stephen25000

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Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2015, 08:49:19 PM »
Quote from: davel on December 29, 2015, 08:45:26 PM
could you provide a cite which shows they were acquitted...the one you have posted makes no mention of an acquittal...you obviously haven't read it


  your claims are totally untrue and pure propaganda

Well, you fell into that one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Joana_Cipriano
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2015, 08:51:29 PM »
just to clarify...the court accepted that cipriano was tortured in police custody but could not identify those responsible as cipriano had a bag over her head. Amarals conviction for covering up the torture has never been overturned. Those are the undisputed facts.
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stephen25000

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Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2015, 08:52:46 PM »
Quote from: davel on December 29, 2015, 08:51:29 PM
just to clarify...the court accepted that cipriano was tortured in police custody but could not identify those responsible as cipriano had a bag over her head. Amarals conviction for covering up the torture has never been overturned. Those are the undisputed facts.

Now read my link as you have made an accusation.

I expect an apology
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Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2015, 08:54:35 PM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on December 29, 2015, 08:52:46 PM
Now read my link as you have made an accusation.

I expect an apology

an apology for what  .......your link is in portuguese....do you have a translation
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stephen25000

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Re: Would the McCanns have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2015, 09:00:26 PM »
Quote from: davel on December 29, 2015, 08:54:35 PM
an apology for what  .......your link is in portuguese....do you have a translation

' Three officers, Leonel Marques, Paulo Pereira Cristovao and Paulo Marques Bom, were acquitted of torture.' 

You denied this.

HERE IS THE LINK AGAIN.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Joana_Cipriano

APOLOGIZE.

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