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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Luke Mitchell and the murder of his teenage girfriend Jodi Jones on 30 June 2003. => Topic started by: John on June 22, 2021, 01:46:23 PM
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Mum’s fury at Channel 5 Jodi Jones documentary makers after son Mark Kane’s ‘name blackened’.
Norma was horrified to find her late son Mark Kane had been discussed and pictured in Channel 5’s Murder in a Small Town earlier this year.
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The heartbroken mum of a man who was wrongly named as a suspect in the brutal murder of schoolgirl Jodi Jones has hit out at documentary makers.
Norma was horrified to find her late son Mark Kane had been discussed and pictured in Channel 5’s Murder in a Small Town earlier this year.
The two-part show attempted to cast doubt on the conviction of killer Luke Mitchell despite him being found guilty by a jury of murdering Jodi, his 14-year-old girlfriend, in 2003.
Two private investigators drew up a list of other people they considered could be in the frame – including Mark, who died suddenly in May 2018, aged 38.
Despite contacting Channel 5 four times to ask for an explanation, Norma claims she has failed to receive any acknowledgement or apology.
The TV station also declined to speak to the Record.
The 71-year-old, who has cancer, said: “I just want justice for my son. The way they spoke about him in that documentary was as if he had actually murdered Jodi.
“I had the police at my house at the time and they told me that they had run Mark’s fingerprints and his DNA so they knew he didn’t do it.
“The policewoman told me not to worry because they knew it wasn’t Mark and that they had the right person in custody.
“But because of claims being made by a supposed friend of Mark’s, they had to investigate.”
A court was previously told how “pal” Scott Forbes claimed to have evidence that could clear Mitchell but that he wanted to sell his story for £50,000.
He implicated Mark, a former drug addict, who was allegedly in the vicinity when Jodi was murdered in woodland near her home in Dalkeith, Midlothian.
He told Kane to cooperate with his story and he would split the fee with him – but mum Norma told how her son outright refused to take the blame for something he hadn’t done.
She said: “Scott told Mark he would give him £25,000 if he went along with his story.
“When I asked Mark what he had said, he told me that he had politely told him where to go because he wouldn’t admit to something he hadn’t done.
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“I couldn’t believe it when I saw the way Mark was being portrayed in that documentary.
“They have totally blackened his name and he’s not even here to defend himself.
"OK, he was a drug addict years ago but he was turning his life around. He got off the drugs completely and was accepted into college.
“He then went on to study at Stirling University. But in the documentary, they made out that he was up in a field taking drugs and the rest of it.
“No child is perfect but my son doesn’t deserve what they’ve done to him.”
Norma, who lives in Edinburgh, told how her only child would have celebrated his birthday earlier this month, which compounded her anguish over the TV series.
She said: “Mark passed away three years ago on the 16th of last month. He would have just turned 40. I think that’s why it’s all coming to a head for me.
“His cause of death is still unknown. They just found him lying in his chair. The autopsy couldn’t find how he had died – he just went to sleep and never woke up.
“I feel like I’ve not got any closure. Channel 5 even got that wrong on the documentary – they said he died last year.
acknowledge that they had got my emails and it was
maybe getting looked into or something like that.
“But they’ve just totally ignored me. I know how I’m feeling after that documentary but it must be a hundred times worse for Jodi’s family.”
Police say nobody else is wanted in connection with Jodi’s death.
We previously told how Jodi’s family slammed Mitchell supporters for using a picture of her in their “shameful” campaign for his release.
Stickers bearing the words “the truth must be known” alongside an image of Mitchell’s teen victim have been plastered across Midlothian in recent days.
Channel 5 declined to comment.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mums-fury-jodi-jones-documentary-24327016?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
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Sandra Lean should have been mentioned in this article because she was the driving force behind this flawed documentary. Mark Kane was an innocent man which Sandra Lean and her cronies sought to use as a scapegoat in order to promote the silly idea that Luke Mitchell is innocent.
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The narrator of the programme actually calls Mark Kane and some others, suspects. I remember Dr. Lean on a YouTube video telling people to be careful not to call persons of interest, suspects. My heart breaks for Jodi's family and for Mark Kane's mum and for anyone else whose names have been dragged through the dirt, without proof, in the name of justice. Another mother grieving for her child in the middle of this s**t pile. Norma had the decency to acknowledge Judy Jones' much greater pain so there is strength of character and selflessness right there. She's restored my faith in people for the time being anyway.
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Mum’s fury at Channel 5 Jodi Jones documentary makers after son Mark Kane’s ‘name blackened’.
Norma was horrified to find her late son Mark Kane had been discussed and pictured in Channel 5’s Murder in a Small Town earlier this year.
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The heartbroken mum of a man who was wrongly named as a suspect in the brutal murder of schoolgirl Jodi Jones has hit out at documentary makers.
Norma was horrified to find her late son Mark Kane had been discussed and pictured in Channel 5’s Murder in a Small Town earlier this year.
The two-part show attempted to cast doubt on the conviction of killer Luke Mitchell despite him being found guilty by a jury of murdering Jodi, his 14-year-old girlfriend, in 2003.
Two private investigators drew up a list of other people they considered could be in the frame – including Mark, who died suddenly in May 2018, aged 38.
Despite contacting Channel 5 four times to ask for an explanation, Norma claims she has failed to receive any acknowledgement or apology.
The TV station also declined to speak to the Record.
The 71-year-old, who has cancer, said: “I just want justice for my son. The way they spoke about him in that documentary was as if he had actually murdered Jodi.
“I had the police at my house at the time and they told me that they had run Mark’s fingerprints and his DNA so they knew he didn’t do it.
“The policewoman told me not to worry because they knew it wasn’t Mark and that they had the right person in custody.
“But because of claims being made by a supposed friend of Mark’s, they had to investigate.”
A court was previously told how “pal” Scott Forbes claimed to have evidence that could clear Mitchell but that he wanted to sell his story for £50,000.
He implicated Mark, a former drug addict, who was allegedly in the vicinity when Jodi was murdered in woodland near her home in Dalkeith, Midlothian.
He told Kane to cooperate with his story and he would split the fee with him – but mum Norma told how her son outright refused to take the blame for something he hadn’t done.
She said: “Scott told Mark he would give him £25,000 if he went along with his story.
“When I asked Mark what he had said, he told me that he had politely told him where to go because he wouldn’t admit to something he hadn’t done.
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“I couldn’t believe it when I saw the way Mark was being portrayed in that documentary.
“They have totally blackened his name and he’s not even here to defend himself.
"OK, he was a drug addict years ago but he was turning his life around. He got off the drugs completely and was accepted into college.
“He then went on to study at Stirling University. But in the documentary, they made out that he was up in a field taking drugs and the rest of it.
“No child is perfect but my son doesn’t deserve what they’ve done to him.”
Norma, who lives in Edinburgh, told how her only child would have celebrated his birthday earlier this month, which compounded her anguish over the TV series.
She said: “Mark passed away three years ago on the 16th of last month. He would have just turned 40. I think that’s why it’s all coming to a head for me.
“His cause of death is still unknown. They just found him lying in his chair. The autopsy couldn’t find how he had died – he just went to sleep and never woke up.
“I feel like I’ve not got any closure. Channel 5 even got that wrong on the documentary – they said he died last year.
acknowledge that they had got my emails and it was
maybe getting looked into or something like that.
“But they’ve just totally ignored me. I know how I’m feeling after that documentary but it must be a hundred times worse for Jodi’s family.”
Police say nobody else is wanted in connection with Jodi’s death.
We previously told how Jodi’s family slammed Mitchell supporters for using a picture of her in their “shameful” campaign for his release.
Stickers bearing the words “the truth must be known” alongside an image of Mitchell’s teen victim have been plastered across Midlothian in recent days.
Channel 5 declined to comment.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mums-fury-jodi-jones-documentary-24327016?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
I would be interested to know if Dr.Lean, Scott Forbes and Mark Kane were studying at Stirling University at the same time? I'd be interested to know where Scott Forbes is from too. It's just a thought but I have wondered off and on for a while now.
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I would be interested to know if Dr.Lean, Scott Forbes and Mark Kane were studying at Stirling University at the same time? I'd be interested to know where Scott Forbes is from too. It's just a thought but I have wondered off and on for a while now.
Scott Forbes worked for the legal firm that represents Luke Mitchell and takes instruction from Sandra Lean since she allegedly has POA for him.
I must say, this Record article is pretty damming for the Mitchell campaign all said and done.
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Thanks, John.
Btw, can I ask you ... you indicated that initially you thought LM to be innocent, so what convinced you he was guilty? Anything specific? Or just a number of things combined? Just curious. Thx.
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Thanks, John.
Btw, can I ask you ... you indicated that initially you thought LM to be innocent, so what convinced you he was guilty? Anything specific? Or just a number of things combined? Just curious. Thx.
As you know I spoke to Luke in private at the High Court and passed him some information about a guy who confessed to the murder of Jodi Jones. I will admit that this information threw me at the time and for some time afterwards I believed there was a possibility he was innocent given the lack of any damming forensics. However, after a while the facts just started to unravel and the evidence for his involvement started to add up. The clincher for me was the brother Shane denials, had Luke Mitchell been at home his brother only had to say so. The fact that the police threatened both Shane and his mother with prosecution for attempting to pervert the course of justice and of committing perjury in court was very damming.
So to answer your question, it is a number of things which added up amount to circumstantial evidence. Top of the list though is the failure of his brother to corroborate his alibi.
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As you know I spoke to Luke in private at the High Court and passed him some information about a guy who confessed to the murder of Jodi Jones. I will admit that this information threw me at the time and for some time afterwards I believed there was a possibility he was innocent given the lack of any damming forensics. However, after a while the facts just started to unravel and the evidence for his involvement started to add up. The clincher for me was the brother Shane denials, had Luke Mitchell been at home his brother only had to say so. The fact that the police threatened both Shane and his mother with prosecution for attempting to pervert the course of justice and of committing perjury in court was very damming.
So to answer your question, it is a number of things which added up amount to circumstantial evidence. Top of the list though is the failure of his brother to corroborate his alibi.
But according to the taptalk link posted last week you still supported Luke’s campaign in 2010, at least five years after it was obvious the Shane was not going to speak out and certainly, looking at your post, when you were well aware of the facts of the case. So I’m afraid, for me, your answer isn’t very convincing.
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But according to the taptalk link posted last week you still supported Luke’s campaign in 2010, at least five years after it was obvious the Shane was not going to speak out and certainly, looking at your post, when you were well aware of the facts of the case. So I’m afraid, for me, your answer isn’t very convincing.
I've always said I wasn't 100% sure if that's what you mean. Shit happens sometimes regardless of the evidence. If he is innocent he is one very unlucky lad.
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Scott Forbes worked for the legal firm that represents Luke Mitchell and takes instruction from Sandra Lean since she allegedly has POA for him.
I must say, this Record article is pretty damming for the Mitchell campaign all said and done.
Do you have any thoughts on this at all please?
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I've always said I wasn't 100% sure if that's what you mean. Shit happens sometimes regardless of the evidence. If he is innocent he is one very unlucky lad.
Maybe I have misunderstood but your recent posts have always appeared to lean more heavily towards guilt. Your 2010 post certainly seems to suggest that at that time you appear to have thought that Luke’s conviction was a miscarriage of justice. At that time you also seem to have been well aware of the facts and Shane’s decision to stay silent.
What facts have arisen since your 2010 post that have, latterly, made you lean more towards guilt?
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Do you have any thoughts on this at all please?
I apologise. That's for Jane Hamilton to deal with, not you. I take my question back.
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Scott Forbes worked for the legal firm that represents Luke Mitchell and takes instruction from Sandra Lean since she allegedly has POA for him.
I must say, this Record article is pretty damming for the Mitchell campaign all said and done.
Dr Lean has refuted this publicly. Starting there are 2 different Scott Forbes. According to her the one in the C5 doc and the one on Luke's legal team are two different people. *&^^& *&^^& *&^^& *&^^&
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Dr Lean has refuted this publicly. Starting there are 2 different Scott Forbes. According to her the one in the C5 doc and the one on Luke's legal team are two different people. *&^^& *&^^& *&^^& *&^^&
the man himself claims he was on luke legal team lol.
https://twitter.com/Scf65Forbes/status/1113550373946626048
I would be interested to know if Dr.Lean, Scott Forbes and Mark Kane were studying at Stirling University at the same time? I'd be interested to know where Scott Forbes is from too. It's just a thought but I have wondered off and on for a while now.
he was living in leith area of edinburgh at the time of crime, being from an area just outside dalkeith area originally
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I know. Sandra denies this for some reason
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I would be interested to know if Dr.Lean, Scott Forbes and Mark Kane were studying at Stirling University at the same time?
It seems that they were - the recent documentary didn't mention it, though.
I'm glad that Mark's mother has come forward in this way - I understand why MK was highlighted in the very early stages, but the fact that MK was dredged up again in this recent documentary was shameful.
Shameful.
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It seems that they were - the recent documentary didn't mention it, though.
Scott confirm he and Sandra were there at the same time at least
https://twitter.com/Scf65Forbes/status/1362845413938761728
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Scott confirm he and Sandra were there at the same time at least
https://twitter.com/Scf65Forbes/status/1362845413938761728
Cheers for that WW, it's always good to have these things on record.
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Cheers for that WW, it's always good to have these things on record.
Hasn’t Sandra admitted this already? Isn’t this old news?
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it's always good to have these things on record.
Also on record is a statement by Mark Kane from 2014 ⬇️
Sandra Lean is a bully as well as a liar. I was one of the so called accused, not a shred of evidence against me except a statement from a man who has a severe criminal record that has since came to light. I knew all about it from the start I knew it would eventually catch up with him and Sandra Lean. Anytime I contacted her on the 'Luke Mitchell' is innocent website she got right onto her cronies and I would receive death threats over the phone, be visited n public places by he man with the long and hash criminal record who would make threats against and my family. He even went to my mothers door, she is her Sixties and disabled just to show me she could be got at! What type of human being does such a thing? He assaulted me in full view of half a dozen people after I had left a comment on Ms.Leans web pag. All of this I reported to the police. Just to set a couple of things straight I never had big cuts on my face the day after the murder I had a tiny scratch is all, he did not drive me to the police station the day after and he never said what amount of money we would get but he did say we would get money if we spoke to the press and get a wee holiday out of it. I never wanted anything to do with it it was sick, the man bullied me. He got a holiday out of it as the daily record accidentally used his name as the suspect he got just over a grand in damages. I have never received anything for the mental anguish myself and family have been through. I think he was merely a puppet in Sandra Leans games which have now came to a head but I'm still stuck with totally untrue accusations against me and haven't even received a sorry let alone anything else. I knew about his criminal past but I never mentioned it, I never spoke to reporters, which he wanted me to. He used to make jokes about it and him and him only ever brought it up as you know it was nearly 4 years before he came forward after a falling out between us, the police didn't take him serious and he gave a high court statement Han is all lies and I have many witness that can back that up. He bullied me after he had went to the police, trying to keep me in line and watch who I spoke to but I just didn't want anything to do with it god I wasn't even sure he was telling the truth about talking to the police cause like I said he used to make jokes about it. If they haughty they were right then how come whenever I questioned Sandra lean she would get right on to him to go and do her dirty work which was harass me. I have a load of witness to prove everything he said is a lie that's why I was never worried. I just think it's shocking that a man can take half truths, 3rd hand stories and just lies then go to the police with this rubbish and before you know it my name is on the 6 o'clock news, in newspapers giving totally false information about me and iv never received any type of closure or apology or anything from the people involved. Maybe karma has just taken it's time he's been exposed for the violent criminal who done jail for armed robbery and Sandra Lean, not for the first time, is wrong. I went through hell and back because of them but I'm not going to waste my life looking for revenge I knew in time it would all come out. Here's to the innocent among us, don't let the b........s grind you down.
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And some forum members/readers may recall Honorato Alberto Christovao’s name being put forward as an ‘alternative suspect’ to Simon Hall re the murder of Joan Albert in 2001 https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/capel-st-mary-former-suffolk-man-is-victim-in-car-2720254
Solicitors ask for Norwich murder victim’s DNA in bid to overturn conviction
https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/crime/solicitors-ask-for-norwich-murder-victim-s-dna-in-bid-469330
Drug debt theory over Norwich car park murder
‘Last week solicitors acting for an Ipswich man convicted in 2003 of the murder of pensioner Joan Albert at her home in Capel St Mary, Suffolk, asked police for a sample of DNA from Mr Christovao.
The supporters of Simon Hall, 33, believe Mr Christovao had links to the village at the time of the killing in 2001 and could have been connected to her death.
DNA samples and fingerprints found at the Capel St Mary murder scene failed to match Hall's.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-12698800
Following the exposure of Simon Halls guilt in 2013 - What lessons, if any, did Sandra Lean learn?
Mark Kanes name was brought up on the channel 5 TV show at the beginning of the 2nd episode
One of the PI’s states,
“We’ve got another person of interest that absolutely shocked me. It was a guy by the name of Mark Kane. He’s turned up with scratches on his face”
Sandra Lean then states,
“If Luke Mitchell didn’t kill Jodi, someone else did”
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the man himself claims he was on luke legal team lol.
https://twitter.com/Scf65Forbes/status/1113550373946626048
he was living in leith area of edinburgh at the time of crime, being from an area just outside dalkeith area originally
Thank you.
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It seems that they were - the recent documentary didn't mention it, though.
I'm glad that Mark's mother has come forward in this way - I understand why MK was highlighted in the very early stages, but the fact that MK was dredged up again in this recent documentary was shameful.
Shameful.
I know Dr. Lean and Scott Forbes were at Stirling University at the same time but I've never heard mention of when Mark Kane attended Stirling. The university term begins in August. Scott Forbes shows up at Corinne's caravan place toward the end of the year but I don't know if it's the same year. I'd be interested to know. Thanks for replying. I've always wondered where Scott Forbes is from.
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Also on record is a statement by Mark Kane from 2014 ⬇️
Sandra Lean is a bully as well as a liar. I was one of the so called accused, not a shred of evidence against me except a statement from a man who has a severe criminal record that has since came to light. I knew all about it from the start I knew it would eventually catch up with him and Sandra Lean. Anytime I contacted her on the 'Luke Mitchell' is innocent website she got right onto her cronies and I would receive death threats over the phone, be visited n public places by he man with the long and hash criminal record who would make threats against and my family. He even went to my mothers door, she is her Sixties and disabled just to show me she could be got at! What type of human being does such a thing? He assaulted me in full view of half a dozen people after I had left a comment on Ms.Leans web pag. All of this I reported to the police. Just to set a couple of things straight I never had big cuts on my face the day after the murder I had a tiny scratch is all, he did not drive me to the police station the day after and he never said what amount of money we would get but he did say we would get money if we spoke to the press and get a wee holiday out of it. I never wanted anything to do with it it was sick, the man bullied me. He got a holiday out of it as the daily record accidentally used his name as the suspect he got just over a grand in damages. I have never received anything for the mental anguish myself and family have been through. I think he was merely a puppet in Sandra Leans games which have now came to a head but I'm still stuck with totally untrue accusations against me and haven't even received a sorry let alone anything else. I knew about his criminal past but I never mentioned it, I never spoke to reporters, which he wanted me to. He used to make jokes about it and him and him only ever brought it up as you know it was nearly 4 years before he came forward after a falling out between us, the police didn't take him serious and he gave a high court statement Han is all lies and I have many witness that can back that up. He bullied me after he had went to the police, trying to keep me in line and watch who I spoke to but I just didn't want anything to do with it god I wasn't even sure he was telling the truth about talking to the police cause like I said he used to make jokes about it. If they haughty they were right then how come whenever I questioned Sandra lean she would get right on to him to go and do her dirty work which was harass me. I have a load of witness to prove everything he said is a lie that's why I was never worried. I just think it's shocking that a man can take half truths, 3rd hand stories and just lies then go to the police with this rubbish and before you know it my name is on the 6 o'clock news, in newspapers giving totally false information about me and iv never received any type of closure or apology or anything from the people involved. Maybe karma has just taken it's time he's been exposed for the violent criminal who done jail for armed robbery and Sandra Lean, not for the first time, is wrong. I went through hell and back because of them but I'm not going to waste my life looking for revenge I knew in time it would all come out. Here's to the innocent among us, don't let the b........s grind you down.
Fast forward to 2018 and killer Luke Mitchell has decided to repeat what Mark Kane wrote in 2014 ⬇️
‘A prison guard alerts us that our time is up and we both stand up to leave. Michell seems more positive, stating: “I'm not about to lie down, I won't let them beat me down. Illegitimi non carborundum, which is a Latin phrase for ‘don’t let the b........s grind you down[/b]’.”
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/16881794.amp/
Was this yet another coincidence ?
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I know Dr. Lean and Scott Forbes were at Stirling University at the same time but I've never heard mention of when Mark Kane attended Stirling. The university term begins in August. Scott Forbes shows up at Corinne's caravan place toward the end of the year but I don't know if it's the same year. I'd be interested to know. Thanks for replying. I've always wondered where Scott Forbes is from.
Actually, I don't think MK would still be studying at Stirling by 2010.
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Actually, I don't think MK would still be studying at Stirling by 2010.
I don't know when he first attended university so thanks.
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I know Dr. Lean and Scott Forbes were at Stirling University at the same time but I've never heard mention of when Mark Kane attended Stirling. The university term begins in August. Scott Forbes shows up at Corinne's caravan place toward the end of the year but I don't know if it's the same year. I'd be interested to know. Thanks for replying. I've always wondered where Scott Forbes is from.
I see that now. Thanks again.
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I don't know when he first attended university so thanks.
Would have been 2003, I think.
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From the LM ‘official’ Facebook page
Angie Hazard:
‘MK was charged with stabbing his girlfriend then he took his own life’
*&^^&
Linsay Arthur:
“I heard from a school friend he hung himself, I used to go to school with him”
*&^^&
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From the LM ‘official’ Facebook page
Angie Hazard:
‘MK was charged with stabbing his girlfriend then he took his own life’
*&^^&
Linsay Arthur:
“I heard from a school friend he hung himself, I used to go to school with him”
*&^^&
There was a MK of a different age and from another part of Scotland who was charged for stabbing.
Not the MK we know.
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There was a MK of a different age and from another part of Scotland who was charged for stabbing.
Not the MK we know.
Tell Sandra Lean
She’s the one who appears to have allowed the statement to stand - although made a song and dance about the Scott Forbes mix up?!?
It’s on the ‘official’ LM Facebook page (21st March 2021 ‘Am I right I’m thinking one of the moped boys died’)
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There was a MK of a different age and from another part of Scotland who was charged for stabbing.
Not the MK we know.
Are you referring to this ⬇️ Mark Kane
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/stoned-teenager-mark-kane-tortured-1458007
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-13641391
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/mother-hits-out-knife-man-2416426
?
And was Scott Forbes referring to this ⬆️ Mark K ?
Scott Forbes
@Scf65Forbes
Replying to
@EdinburghLive_
Mark K torture of animals; fascination with eye balls bulging when in extreme pain. This could be equated to injuries on Jodie J. Inaddition to animals he tortured himself, deep self harm scars all over his body, injuries that could be equated to Jodie Jones.
10:34 AM · Jun 22, 2021·Twitter for Android
https://mobile.twitter.com/Scf65Forbes/status/1407270743705010178
The above was tweeted underneath an Edinburgh live news article on Mark Kane who died in 2018 of possible SADS
Scott Forbes
@Scf65Forbes
Replying to
@EdinburghLive_
On the days after the murder, Mark Kane had his close friends concerned, one thinking Kane "like he was trying to make us believe he had killed Jodie Jones"..his fascination with torture, mutilated corpses/ porn increased, and sunk to lower depravity.
12:53 PM · Jun 22, 2021·Twitter for Android
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Are you referring to this Mark Kane https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/stoned-teenager-mark-kane-tortured-1458007 ?
And was Scott Forbes referring to this ⬆️ Mark K ?
Scott Forbes
@Scf65Forbes
Replying to
@EdinburghLive_
Mark K torture of animals; fascination with eye balls bulging when in extreme pain. This could be equated to injuries on Jodie J. Inaddition to animals he tortured himself, deep self harm scars all over his body, injuries that could be equated to Jodie Jones.
10:34 AM · Jun 22, 2021·Twitter for Android
https://mobile.twitter.com/Scf65Forbes/status/1407270743705010178
The above was tweeted underneath an Edinburgh live news article on Mark Kane who died in 2018 of possible SADS
The Mark Kane in this article is almost a decade younger than the Mark Kane we know.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/mother-hits-out-knife-man-2416426
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Are you referring to this Mark Kane https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/stoned-teenager-mark-kane-tortured-1458007 ?
And was Scott Forbes referring to this ⬆️ Mark K ?
Scott Forbes
@Scf65Forbes
Replying to
@EdinburghLive_
Mark K torture of animals; fascination with eye balls bulging when in extreme pain. This could be equated to injuries on Jodie J. Inaddition to animals he tortured himself, deep self harm scars all over his body, injuries that could be equated to Jodie Jones.
10:34 AM · Jun 22, 2021·Twitter for Android
https://mobile.twitter.com/Scf65Forbes/status/1407270743705010178
The above was tweeted underneath an Edinburgh live news article on Mark Kane who died in 2018 of possible SADS
Scott Forbes
@Scf65Forbes
Replying to
@EdinburghLive_
On the days after the murder, Mark Kane had his close friends concerned, one thinking Kane "like he was trying to make us believe he had killed Jodie Jones"..his fascination with torture, mutilated corpses/ porn increased, and sunk to lower depravity.
12:53 PM · Jun 22, 2021·Twitter for Android
This guy: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-13641391
I'd imagine SF was always talking about MK the Newbattle student who has now passed away - according to MK's mother, he was fully investigated.
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This guy: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-13641391
I'd imagine SF was always talking about MK the Newbattle student who has now passed away - according to MK's mother, he was fully investigated.
If true - where is the evidence Mark Kane tortured animals?
Scott Forbes recently claimed, “…his fascination with torture, mutilated corpses/ porn increased, and sunk to lower depravity”
https://mobile.twitter.com/Scf65Forbes/status/1407270743705010178
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If true - where is the evidence Mark Kane tortured animals?
Scott Forbes recently claimed, “…his fascination with torture, mutilated corpses/ porn increased, and sunk to lower depravity”
https://mobile.twitter.com/Scf65Forbes/status/1407270743705010178
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Yet despite all of that, SF didn't approach CM until the end of 2006? I smell BS.]
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If true - where is the evidence Mark Kane tortured animals?
Scott Forbes recently claimed, “…his fascination with torture, mutilated corpses/ porn increased, and sunk to lower depravity”
Not sure - the MK in the article you posted seems to be yet another MK from NE England?
If SF says the MK we know tortured animals, I don't know how he would know that, but he did apparently seem to have had a fascination with the macabre.
Best if we stick to the MK we know - his mother says he was investigated and ruled out.
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Not sure - the MK in the article you posted seems to be yet another MK from NE England?
If SF says the MK we know tortured animals, I don't know how he would know that, but he did apparently seem to have had a fascination with the macabre.
Best if we stick to the MK we know - his mother says he was investigated and ruled out.
I'm fairly sure SF is talking about the same MK he's always been talking about but he's very quickly moved on from scratches and gory pics. He's beginning to look as if he's upset about making the news again.
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Not sure - the MK in the article you posted seems to be yet another MK from NE England?
If SF says the MK we know tortured animals, I don't know how he would know that, but he did apparently seem to have had a fascination with the macabre.
What because Scott Forbes said he did?
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What because Scott Forbes said he did?
I think a few people have said that, tbf.
I knew MK for a wee while, and I think he did have a few odd interests, but he was a recovering addict, and was getting himself into a better place from what I could see.
So much tragedy involved in this case.
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Scott confirm he and Sandra were there at the same time at least
https://twitter.com/Scf65Forbes/status/1362845413938761728
Interesting. She denies this. Of course.
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Interesting. She denies this. Of course.
Sandra said this was true
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Sandra said this was true
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Scott Forbes recently claimed, “…his fascination with torture, mutilated corpses/ porn increased, and sunk to lower depravity”
https://mobile.twitter.com/Scf65Forbes/status/1407270743705010178
Maybe the truth was/is it’s Scott Forbes who’s fascinated with ‘torture, mutilated corpses/ porn’ ?
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Maybe the truth was/is it’s Scott Forbes who’s fascinated with ‘torture, mutilated corpses/ porn’ ?
based on what?
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Maybe the truth was/is it’s Scott Forbes who’s fascinated with ‘torture, mutilated corpses/ porn’ ?
Well, Scott Forbes certainly didn't mention any of that in the documentary, did he? A bit like him not mentioning MK carrying a knife when MK was alive but happened to mention that in another documentary when MK was already dead. I would have thought the carrying of a knife would have been of utmost importance during both documentaries. It seems Shane Mitchell isn't the only one with a "bad memory." Scott Forbes is an absolute coward.
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Well, Scott Forbes certainly didn't mention any of that in the documentary, did he?
I wonder how much of what he says are actually his own psychological projections ?
He gives me the creeps
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Well, Scott Forbes certainly didn't mention any of that in the documentary, did he? A bit like him not mentioning MK carrying a knife when MK was alive but happened to mention that in another documentary when MK was already dead.
He clearly just makes things up
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I would have thought the carrying of a knife would have been of utmost importance during both documentaries.
He’s clearly an attention seeker
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Scott Forbes is an absolute coward.
Scott Forbes is most certainly a coward
He’s a complete and utter hypocrite too
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He clearly just makes things up
He hasn't though has he?
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He hasn't though has he?
Yes he has.
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Sandra said this was true
I will try and find the proof of her denials.
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Yes he has.
Just because you say it without full facts, doesn't make it right.
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Sandra said this was true
I believe it was on one of her lives.
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I believe it was on one of her lives.
It was yes. She clearly explained this.
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It was yes. She clearly explained this.
That’s what I remember.
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Just to be clear, is this what MK looked like on the evening of 30.06.03? He didn’t have shoulder length hair on that day or anything? Anyone know?
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Reckon Kane would have looked pretty much like that image.
Can't remember when those images would have been shot, though.
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Always has been, always will be, a pawn to play with - to lie about consistently. Only yesterday in that article around the claimed 'break in to prison' - Someone stated that the right person was in Jail. To which someone replied, the the real murderer was dead!! thus why no more similar murders!!
So this unfortunate soul in life and death is having his name branded about as being the killer. - The grief and torment upon his family undeniable. And from here we can put out the biggest lie of them all, where MK is concerned:
That he was never checked out, that the police simply ignored him, brushed him over in the investigation - the truth, he was spoken to and checked out. CCTV footage obtained to confirm where he had bought booze from that evening. Obtained in the very early days of the investigation.
So we really just need to take this blatant lie, that complete manipulation of the facts and apply it across the board. Where the rest is total contradictory BS
I mean, it is stated there is more than one witness claiming they knew he went for booze that day. Then the arms and legs, that it had to be either Eskbank or Newtongrange thus placing him somewhere on Newbattle Road. They don't know where, just that he had to have been on that road. Then the IF's, If it had been Newtongrange then there is a chance he may have passed that gate where F&W ID Luke Mitchell. And IF he were near the gate he may have stopped, and bingo!
But MK stated he went into the woods surrounding the college!! Well it takes you through the Golf Club, onto Abbey Road and up to where he actually did buy booze!! Nowhere near RDP of course and not onto Newbattle Road. For these witnesses did not see MK on that road, they only said he had went for booze the night before, because they told him - the rest is arms and legs!!
I suppose it really is all down to being asked and checked out and having that confirmation, directly from MK of course. Of where he said he went to buy that booze and there he was on CCTV!!
And the fallacy and those complete nonsense claims of being a twin. So once we work our way through the arms and legs and onto being a twin, after all of those IF's - Two youths on Newbattle Road wearing khaki green clothing, spitting image in every way, from head to foot - but only one seen!! Perhaps one or thee other was nipping in and off the road for a smoke - as Ms Lean states, Mitchell who was out his nut on cannabis forgot track of time!! Yet for years claimed he had not been smoking that evening, to back up that it could not possibly have been Mitchell Jodi had a smoke with!!
And SF, Lean etc state MK was out his nut on drugs too! Running about in parkas to catch the shop for booze!! And that tutor from the Abbey. Just because they said 'no essay exists' does not of course mean, that it never existed!!! - soak it up, churn it round and spit it out.
And Natterjack was correct, they can not even get the basics correct - why on earth would they, too busy trying to finger everyone else!!
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Just to be clear, is this what MK looked like on the evening of 30.06.03? He didn’t have shoulder length hair on that day or anything? Anyone know?
I don't know. I didn't see Kane after he began college but he had more or less the same haircut he has in the picture when he began college and for all the years previously when I did see him. I believe if Kane's hair had been shoulder length in 2003 we would have known about it and I have no idea how quickly Kane's hair grew ?{)(** but from this picture to shoulder length from when he started college to 2003 is a massive stretch.
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Always has been, always will be, a pawn to play with - to lie about consistently. Only yesterday in that article around the claimed 'break in to prison' - Someone stated that the right person was in Jail. To which someone replied, the the real murderer was dead!! thus why no more similar murders!!
So this unfortunate soul in life and death is having his name branded about as being the killer. - The grief and torment upon his family undeniable. And from here we can put out the biggest lie of them all, where MK is concerned:
That he was never checked out, that the police simply ignored him, brushed him over in the investigation - the truth, he was spoken to and checked out. CCTV footage obtained to confirm where he had bought booze from that evening. Obtained in the very early days of the investigation.
So we really just need to take this blatant lie, that complete manipulation of the facts and apply it across the board. Where the rest is total contradictory BS
I mean, it is stated there is more than one witness claiming they knew he went for booze that day. Then the arms and legs, that it had to be either Eskbank or Newtongrange thus placing him somewhere on Newbattle Road. They don't know where, just that he had to have been on that road. Then the IF's, If it had been Newtongrange then there is a chance he may have passed that gate where F&W ID Luke Mitchell. And IF he were near the gate he may have stopped, and bingo!
But MK stated he went into the woods surrounding the college!! Well it takes you through the Golf Club, onto Abbey Road and up to where he actually did buy booze!! Nowhere near RDP of course and not onto Newbattle Road. For these witnesses did not see MK on that road, they only said he had went for booze the night before, because they told him - the rest is arms and legs!!
I suppose it really is all down to being asked and checked out and having that confirmation, directly from MK of course. Of where he said he went to buy that booze and there he was on CCTV!!
And the fallacy and those complete nonsense claims of being a twin. So once we work our way through the arms and legs and onto being a twin, after all of those IF's - Two youths on Newbattle Road wearing khaki green clothing, spitting image in every way, from head to foot - but only one seen!! Perhaps one or thee other was nipping in and off the road for a smoke - as Ms Lean states, Mitchell who was out his nut on cannabis forgot track of time!! Yet for years claimed he had not been smoking that evening, to back up that it could not possibly have been Mitchell Jodi had a smoke with!!
And SF, Lean etc state MK was out his nut on drugs too! Running about in parkas to catch the shop for booze!! And that tutor from the Abbey. Just because they said 'no essay exists' does not of course mean, that it never existed!!! - soak it up, churn it round and spit it out.
And Natterjack was correct, they can not even get the basics correct - why on earth would they, too busy trying to finger everyone else!!
I agree. Sadly Kane has been used as a distraction from the truth but not only Kane has been used. The truth being that poor Jodi was murdered by Luke Mitchell.
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Always has been, always will be, a pawn to play with - to lie about consistently. Only yesterday in that article around the claimed 'break in to prison' - Someone stated that the right person was in Jail. To which someone replied, the the real murderer was dead!! thus why no more similar murders!!
So this unfortunate soul in life and death is having his name branded about as being the killer. - The grief and torment upon his family undeniable. And from here we can put out the biggest lie of them all, where MK is concerned:
That he was never checked out, that the police simply ignored him, brushed him over in the investigation - the truth, he was spoken to and checked out. CCTV footage obtained to confirm where he had bought booze from that evening. Obtained in the very early days of the investigation.
So we really just need to take this blatant lie, that complete manipulation of the facts and apply it across the board. Where the rest is total contradictory BS
I mean, it is stated there is more than one witness claiming they knew he went for booze that day. Then the arms and legs, that it had to be either Eskbank or Newtongrange thus placing him somewhere on Newbattle Road. They don't know where, just that he had to have been on that road. Then the IF's, If it had been Newtongrange then there is a chance he may have passed that gate where F&W ID Luke Mitchell. And IF he were near the gate he may have stopped, and bingo!
But MK stated he went into the woods surrounding the college!! Well it takes you through the Golf Club, onto Abbey Road and up to where he actually did buy booze!! Nowhere near RDP of course and not onto Newbattle Road. For these witnesses did not see MK on that road, they only said he had went for booze the night before, because they told him - the rest is arms and legs!!
I suppose it really is all down to being asked and checked out and having that confirmation, directly from MK of course. Of where he said he went to buy that booze and there he was on CCTV!!
And the fallacy and those complete nonsense claims of being a twin. So once we work our way through the arms and legs and onto being a twin, after all of those IF's - Two youths on Newbattle Road wearing khaki green clothing, spitting image in every way, from head to foot - but only one seen!! Perhaps one or thee other was nipping in and off the road for a smoke - as Ms Lean states, Mitchell who was out his nut on cannabis forgot track of time!! Yet for years claimed he had not been smoking that evening, to back up that it could not possibly have been Mitchell Jodi had a smoke with!!
And SF, Lean etc state MK was out his nut on drugs too! Running about in parkas to catch the shop for booze!! And that tutor from the Abbey. Just because they said 'no essay exists' does not of course mean, that it never existed!!! - soak it up, churn it round and spit it out.
And Natterjack was correct, they can not even get the basics correct - why on earth would they, too busy trying to finger everyone else!!
And what about, crucially, what SL refers to was in the case files — that he was spotted, specifically, running on Newbattle rd on the early evening of 30.06.03? Not just before 2200 hrs, buying booze at Haddows? Two separate sightings. Well, that’s what I infer from the ‘Mistaken Identity’ portion of ‘IB’ (starting p.233).
Drawing from my own personal understanding of the case, and my own instinct, I think it’s very unlikely that MK had anything to do with it, but it’s these messy little facets that prevent me from saying, categorically, that Luke is guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
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And what about, crucially, what SL refers to was in the case files — that he was spotted, specifically, running on Newbattle rd on the early evening of 30.06.03? Not just before 2200 hrs, buying booze at Haddows? Two separate sightings. Well, that’s what I infer from the ‘Mistaken Identity’ portion of ‘IB’ (starting p.233).
Drawing from my own personal understanding of the case, and my own instinct, I think it’s very unlikely that MK had anything to do with it, but it’s these messy little facets that prevent me from saying, categorically, that Luke is guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
Kane wasn't spotted by anyone. Kane and Mitchell both had parkas. When SL found out from SF that Kane also had a parka, the mistaken identity conspiracy theories began.
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And what about, crucially, what SL refers to was in the case files — that he was spotted, specifically, running on Newbattle rd on the early evening of 30.06.03? Not just before 2200 hrs, buying booze at Haddows? Two separate sightings. Well, that’s what I infer from the ‘Mistaken Identity’ portion of ‘IB’ (starting p.233).
Drawing from my own personal understanding of the case, and my own instinct, I think it’s very unlikely that MK had anything to do with it, but it’s these messy little facets that prevent me from saying, categorically, that Luke is guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
Shouldn’t Luke’s guilt rest on the evidence against him not the evidence, or lack of, against someone else?
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And what about, crucially, what SL refers to was in the case files — that he was spotted, specifically, running on Newbattle rd on the early evening of 30.06.03? Not just before 2200 hrs, buying booze at Haddows? Two separate sightings. Well, that’s what I infer from the ‘Mistaken Identity’ portion of ‘IB’ (starting p.233).
Drawing from my own personal understanding of the case, and my own instinct, I think it’s very unlikely that MK had anything to do with it, but it’s these messy little facets that prevent me from saying, categorically, that Luke is guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
No - there is no witness, here is what passes for the arms and legs of MK being on Newbattle Road. Innocents Betrayed. P.235 by Ms Lean. Under "Mistaken Identity.
"One witness said in a statement that Mr Kane told him police had spoken to him (Mark Kane) because he had been seen running on the Newbattle Road on the evening of the murder. He had gone to one of the local stores to buy alcohol - either Morning Noon and Night (the store where Corinne stopped to buy cigarettes on her way home and where the boys on the pushbikes, who recognized Luke sitting on the wall at the end of his street, were captured on CCTV footage around ten to six), or Eskbank Trading, a convenience store in the opposite direction. Both of these stores would require Mr Kane to traverse the Newbattle Road in order to get them and return to the Abbey."
Ok, where to start. Firstly it would appear that MK is his own witness!! It is him (claimed) telling someone, that he had been seen running on this road. There is no actual witness statement from anyone seeing him running on the road. The, this, "he had gone to one of the local stores" and the supposition and assumption of it being either the one in Newtongrange or in Eskbank.
Let us stop there, now MK is stating he was spoken to by the police. So it is ok to state that everything he therefore said was true, but not that he had been spoken to by the police!! Now add the actual reality, whatever may have been said to the police, MK was spoken to. And whatever was put to MK he told them exactly where he had went for alcohol and they checked, and he had indeed and was on CCTV confirming this.
And the contradiction - of MK stating someone saw him running on the road and the insert of both these local stores would merit him traversing onto this road. Now the truth and the reality - MK had said he had been seen running for alcohol to a local store. Running to catch it before it closed for the evening.This "local store" to the Abbey is in numerous directions. In 2003 the one in Newtongrange used to close by 9pm. As did all Scotmids at the time, did they not? Now the short distance from his student room, is through the Golf house onto Abbey Road and into Dalkeith.
Now, as I have been stating several times, the author whilst attempting to show different points, consistently contradicts herself with others! She claims that MK was not checked for using either the store in Newtongrange or the one in Eskbank - and think. The boys on the pushbikes, she claims, and love the "around ten to six" were seen on the CCTV footage. And of course CM. And think again, that sighting by F&W and this claimed "mistaken Identity" - Did they just miss out the areas of that CCTV footage then!! That had this twin of LM in a parka jacket in that store - No of course they did not. What is shows, without a shadow of a doubt, is that MK was not in that store buying booze. Thus MK was not on that stretch of road and there was no "Mistaken Identity"
And to draw your attention, to just how much any information has been manipulated and morphed as above. Stemming from, "running to a local store to buy booze" then inserting it had to have been one of only two stores if "local"
And this does work across the board, as we had with the bike at the break in the wall - morphed from "close to", to at and at the V - when the break can not be seen from anywhere other than directly beside it. And we know it was a motorist, and we know they were from BTH - and the author knows all of this, and it is morphed into something else, and used, even though she can not fail to know that it is categorically wrong!!
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No - there is no witness, here is what passes for the arms and legs of MK being on Newbattle Road. Innocents Betrayed. P.235 by Ms Lean. Under "Mistaken Identity.
Ok, where to start. Firstly it would appear that MK is his own witness!! It is him (claimed) telling someone, that he had been seen running on this road. There is no actual witness statement from anyone seeing him running on the road. The, this, "he had gone to one of the local stores" and the supposition and assumption of it being either the one in Newtongrange or in Eskbank.
Let us stop there, now MK is stating he was spoken to by the police. So it is ok to state that everything he therefore said was true, but not that he had been spoken to by the police!! Now add the actual reality, whatever may have been said to the police, MK was spoken to. And whatever was put to MK he told them exactly where he had went for alcohol and they checked, and he had indeed and was on CCTV confirming this.
And the contradiction - of MK stating someone saw him running on the road and the insert of both these local stores would merit him traversing onto this road. Now the truth and the reality - MK had said he had been seen running for alcohol to a local store. Running to catch it before it closed for the evening.This "local store" to the Abbey is in numerous directions. In 2003 the one in Newtongrange used to close by 9pm. As did all Scotmids at the time, did they not? Now the short distance from his student room, is through the Golf house onto Abbey Road and into Dalkeith.
Now, as I have been stating several times, the author whilst attempting to show different points, consistently contradicts herself with others! She claims that MK was not checked for using either the store in Newtongrange or the one in Eskbank - and think. The boys on the pushbikes, she claims, and love the "around ten to six" were seen on the CCTV footage. And of course CM. And think again, that sighting by F&W and this claimed "mistaken Identity" - Did they just miss out the areas of that CCTV footage then!! That had this twin of LM in a parka jacket in that store - No of course they did not. What is shows, without a shadow of a doubt, is that MK was not in that store buying booze. Thus MK was not on that stretch of road and there was no "Mistaken Identity"
And to draw your attention, to just how much any information has been manipulated and morphed as above. Stemming from, "running to a local store to buy booze" then inserting it had to have been one of only two stores if "local"
And this does work across the board, as we had with the bike at the break in the wall - morphed from "close to", to at and at the V - when the break can not be seen from anywhere other than directly beside it. And we know it was a motorist, and we know they were from BTH - and the author knows all of this, and it is morphed into something else, and used, even though she can not fail to know that it is categorically wrong!!
This consistent talk of everything that SF claimed, was substantiated in the years to come, by other witnesses, who had said similar things! Really, now even without the arms and legs, it is not hard to see why? For does one imagine that this SF simply spoke to no one else other than MK!!
How does it go, one seeing scratches, onto another being told. One saying they had run for booze at a local store and onto another being told. And they tell someone else and that little bit more, and those Chinese whispers grow into something completely different!!
Before you know it, there are two or three more witnesses, who have been told by that first source, saying similar things - and the end result with it's clear contradiction and proof! Is that MK was not in that shop in Newtongrange buying booze or owt else!!
So again, the waffle upon waffle upon waffle - Proves that he was not in those shops, that he was not on Newbattle Road (we knew this of course, two lads, twins and every other piece of guff). That he was not out of his head on a cocktail of drugs and drink, so much so that he ran to that shop later in the evening to catch it for booze and so forth.
And the waffle about the 50k and this "It makes no logical sense" - it does not matter, it happened, 1k, 5k or whatever! And the tutor and that essay!! All this, just because she states she can not remember any such essay, or that no essay exists - could mean simply that, that it did not exist at the time of the appeal, and the tutor just simply could not remember ------BUT, they remembered he wrote one about mugging an old person!!! Again that contradiction! Whilst trying to show, claim the tutor may have forgotten, she needs to get in what they did remember, that which was not nice - of mugging an old person!! - Really, well they would certainly have remembered!! Killing a girl in the woods type of story, that is a fact!!
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Maybe the truth was/is it’s Scott Forbes who’s fascinated with ‘torture, mutilated corpses/ porn’ ?
About 4.11 into the video. Smirking, lying. Absolutely no respect.
https://youtu.be/he3TaDrvrZQ
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This consistent talk of everything that SF claimed, was substantiated in the years to come, by other witnesses, who had said similar things! Really, now even without the arms and legs, it is not hard to see why? For does one imagine that this SF simply spoke to no one else other than MK!!
How does it go, one seeing scratches, onto another being told. One saying they had run for booze at a local store and onto another being told. And they tell someone else and that little bit more, and those Chinese whispers grow into something completely different!!
Before you know it, there are two or three more witnesses, who have been told by that first source, saying similar things - and the end result with it's clear contradiction and proof! Is that MK was not in that shop in Newtongrange buying booze or owt else!!
So again, the waffle upon waffle upon waffle - Proves that he was not in those shops, that he was not on Newbattle Road (we knew this of course, two lads, twins and every other piece of guff). That he was not out of his head on a cocktail of drugs and drink, so much so that he ran to that shop later in the evening to catch it for booze and so forth.
And the waffle about the 50k and this "It makes no logical sense" - it does not matter, it happened, 1k, 5k or whatever! And the tutor and that essay!! All this, just because she states she can not remember any such essay, or that no essay exists - could mean simply that, that it did not exist at the time of the appeal, and the tutor just simply could not remember ------BUT, they remembered he wrote one about mugging an old person!!! Again that contradiction! Whilst trying to show, claim the tutor may have forgotten, she needs to get in what they did remember, that which was not nice - of mugging an old person!! - Really, well they would certainly have remembered!! Killing a girl in the woods type of story, that is a fact!!
Yeah, the money story is absolutely spot on and it was 50K. And SL was correct. What idiot would think that was a good idea?? SL, Forbes did.
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All of the replies on this thread, and all of the contents of SL's IB, do not confirm MK's whereabouts between 1700 and 1800 on 30.06.03. Have we to assume, like Parky41 does, that MK's whereabouts for the full day on 30.06.03 were investigated thorougly by the police, nothing incriminating was found, MK was alibied, and was consequently and rightly elimiminated from the enquiry at the time?
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No - there is no witness, here is what passes for the arms and legs of MK being on Newbattle Road. Innocents Betrayed. P.235 by Ms Lean. Under "Mistaken Identity.
Ok, where to start. Firstly it would appear that MK is his own witness!! It is him (claimed) telling someone, that he had been seen running on this road. There is no actual witness statement from anyone seeing him running on the road. The, this, "he had gone to one of the local stores" and the supposition and assumption of it being either the one in Newtongrange or in Eskbank.
Let us stop there, now MK is stating he was spoken to by the police. So it is ok to state that everything he therefore said was true, but not that he had been spoken to by the police!! Now add the actual reality, whatever may have been said to the police, MK was spoken to. And whatever was put to MK he told them exactly where he had went for alcohol and they checked, and he had indeed and was on CCTV confirming this.
And the contradiction - of MK stating someone saw him running on the road and the insert of both these local stores would merit him traversing onto this road. Now the truth and the reality - MK had said he had been seen running for alcohol to a local store. Running to catch it before it closed for the evening.This "local store" to the Abbey is in numerous directions. In 2003 the one in Newtongrange used to close by 9pm. As did all Scotmids at the time, did they not? Now the short distance from his student room, is through the Golf house onto Abbey Road and into Dalkeith.
Now, as I have been stating several times, the author whilst attempting to show different points, consistently contradicts herself with others! She claims that MK was not checked for using either the store in Newtongrange or the one in Eskbank - and think. The boys on the pushbikes, she claims, and love the "around ten to six" were seen on the CCTV footage. And of course CM. And think again, that sighting by F&W and this claimed "mistaken Identity" - Did they just miss out the areas of that CCTV footage then!! That had this twin of LM in a parka jacket in that store - No of course they did not. What is shows, without a shadow of a doubt, is that MK was not in that store buying booze. Thus MK was not on that stretch of road and there was no "Mistaken Identity"
And to draw your attention, to just how much any information has been manipulated and morphed as above. Stemming from, "running to a local store to buy booze" then inserting it had to have been one of only two stores if "local"
And this does work across the board, as we had with the bike at the break in the wall - morphed from "close to", to at and at the V - when the break can not be seen from anywhere other than directly beside it. And we know it was a motorist, and we know they were from BTH - and the author knows all of this, and it is morphed into something else, and used, even though she can not fail to know that it is categorically wrong!!
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Warped Minded Abuser, Gaslighter, Con Artist & Hypocrite Scott Forbes & His Blatant Lies
On the 14th of April 2020 Sónia Poulton tweeted here about abuser and con artist Scott Forbes, and referred to him as a lawyer.
Yet Scott Forbes has never provided any proof he has ever been a practising lawyer, and according to the Law Society he has never been entered with them, ever.
Over a decade ago, Scott Forbes contacted a confidential hotline number……
More here
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/08/19/warped-minded-abuser-con-artist-scott-forbes-his-lies/
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More on fantasist, blagger and con artist Scott Forbes and his innocent ‘friend’ Mark Kane
Here
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/08/19/warped-minded-abuser-con-artist-scott-forbes-his-lies/
Here
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/08/20/warped-minded-abuser-gaslighter-con-artist-hypocrite-scott-forbes-his-blatant-lies-part-2/
And here
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/08/21/warped-minded-abuser-gaslighter-con-artist-hypocrite-scott-forbes-his-blatant-lies-part-3/
And Sandra Lean
Here
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/08/21/warped-minded-abuser-gaslighter-con-artist-hypocrite-scott-forbes-his-blatant-lies-part-4/