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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Rossb on July 23, 2022, 09:16:57 AM
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https://youtu.be/eUbOU5930XU
Matthew steeples short interview with shaun atwood. Apparently he worked for a charity and met the mccanns twice. Who is he and even in the video he has made mistakes.
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https://youtu.be/eUbOU5930XU
Matthew steeples short interview with shaun atwood. Apparently he worked for a charity and met the mccanns twice. Who is he and even in the video he has made mistakes.
Yes, he has made mistakes. But then most peripheral investigators do.
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He still mentions the infamous proved right cadaver in 200 cases. The dpg didnt even do more than 21 cases for sy police which found five bodies 2 of which in one case. So 4 out of 21 or 17 a think. The dpgs and i repeat have never been given a track record of percentage neither 200 cases which is insane a dog vould do that, people keep repeating it.
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He still mentions the infamous proved right cadaver in 200 cases. The dpg didnt even do more than 21 cases for sy police which found five bodies 2 of which in one case. So 4 out of 21 or 17 a think. The dpgs and i repeat have never been given a track record of percentage neither 200 cases which is insane a dog vould do that, people keep repeating it.
This is a huge problem with this case. The lies and misinformation are repeated ad infinitum and are then believed by far too many.
The statement from Steeples is a mess of mistaken beliefs and innuendo. There was no blood splatter on the curtains by the way.
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This is a huge problem with this case. The lies and misinformation are repeated ad infinitum and are then believed by far too many.
The statement from Steeples is a mess of mistaken beliefs and innuendo. There was no blood splatter on the curtains by the way.
It's people like Steeple who keep the myths going. There was no blood splatter on the curtains, yet people keep going on about it, they washed the curtains is another one. All they need to do is read the files read the forensic reports.
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He still mentions the infamous proved right cadaver in 200 cases. The dpg didnt even do more than 21 cases for sy police which found five bodies 2 of which in one case. So 4 out of 21 or 17 a think. The dpgs and i repeat have never been given a track record of percentage neither 200 cases which is insane a dog vould do that, people keep repeating it.
If Madeleine had died in the apartment, I don't for one minute think she did, there wouldn't be cadaver scent left in the apartment as the body wouldn't have been left for long enough. There is no gas leaked from a dead body in the first stage of decomposition.
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Martin Grimes has already back tracked, he said what the cadaver dog reacted to could have been ancient scent long before the McCann's were in 5a.
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If Madeleine had died in the apartment, I don't for one minute think she did, there wouldn't be cadaver scent left in the apartment as the body wouldn't have been left for long enough. There is no gas leaked from a dead body in the first stage of decomposition.
Yeah reason why i posted this is what you said same old misinformation. If you see the start they cant even ask questions properly. He briefly mentioned cadaver, but couldnt explain scents from outaide the vehicle not inside, veranda and flowerbed? Eh makes no semse why he wouldnt bring it up. Now its a short interview however my take away from it was he met them twice due to some charity and he said he didnt like gerry mccann i cant stand when people leave things at that, who he really has no relevance tp the case in hand
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Steeple says that CB wouldn't be interested in little girls that he went for older. Did he not read about CB taking photo's of his girlfriends little girl? This man is a complete idiot.
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If Madeleine had died in the apartment, I don't for one minute think she did, there wouldn't be cadaver scent left in the apartment as the body wouldn't have been left for long enough. There is no gas leaked from a dead body in the first stage of decomposition.
That would depend on how long the body lay in the apartment, wouldn't it?
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That would depend on how long the body lay in the apartment, wouldn't it?
Not really
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He still mentions the infamous proved right cadaver in 200 cases. The dpg didnt even do more than 21 cases for sy police which found five bodies 2 of which in one case. So 4 out of 21 or 17 a think. The dpgs and i repeat have never been given a track record of percentage neither 200 cases which is insane a dog vould do that, people keep repeating it.
Grime has confirmed the 100% track record is not true. I think he deserves criticism for not making the true facts clearer
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Grime has confirmed the 100% track record is not true. I think he deserves criticism for not making the true facts clearer
It was apparently not reacting 200 times to meat related stuff. But he cant confirm why the evrd dog not cadavar evrd dog alerted to flowerbed, veranda aswell which means placing bofy their rather than scent swifting from one direction to the other lol. Cuddle cat played with it twice and hid it. Then alerted and was called over to renault scenic a few times in video without re calling to other vehicles. No wonder he got the le haurte 90k job
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Steeple says that CB wouldn't be interested in little girls that he went for older. Did he not read about CB taking photo's of his girlfriends little girl? This man is a complete idiot.
And has been Convicted of Sexual Abuse against several small children.
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And has been Convicted of Sexual Abuse against several small children.
But not murder.
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Strangly enough, believe me or not as you may, I Googled Ancient Burial Grounds in Luz, many years ago and there is one around under the area of 5A.
I don't know if the Cite is still on Google but I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't.
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But not murder.
Which murderer do you know that didn't commit a murder for the first time?
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It was apparently not reacting 200 times to meat related stuff. But he cant confirm why the evrd dog not cadavar evrd dog alerted to flowerbed, veranda aswell which means placing bofy their rather than scent swifting from one direction to the other lol. Cuddle cat played with it twice and hid it. Then alerted and was called over to renault scenic a few times in video without re calling to other vehicles. No wonder he got the le haurte 90k job
What most don't realise is the dog searches in luz were basically an experiment. Harrison and Grime got together in 2005 to see if the unconfirmed alerts could be used as intelligence in abduction/murder cases. It seems Luz was their first real test. That would explain how Harrison initially said an alert could indicate the past presence of a cadaver but then after Grimes performance did a complete about turn and said no inference could be drawn from the alert.
Grime was close to retirement and wanted to start a lucrative cadaver dog business. Luz was his shop window and his profile to the PJ could be seen as his sales brochure.
Its reported he showed the video of the Luz searches to Lenny Harper to get the 100k Jersey job. It was important to him to big up the value of the alertsband the skils of his dogs. There never was a100% record
All this is supported by evidence
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But not murder.
He didn't get the chance. He was with his girlfriends child, if he had killed her they would have known it was him. With the other children, their parents were around.
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He didn't get the chance. He was with his girlfriends child, if he had killed her they would have known it was him. With the other children, their parents were around.
Steady you're nearly into parent blame here, can't have that.
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What most don't realise is the dog searches in luz were basically an experiment. Harrison and Grime got together in 2005 to see if the unconfirmed alerts could be used as intelligence in abduction/murder cases. It seems Luz was their first real test. That would explain how Harrison initially said an alert could indicate the past presence of a cadaver but then after Grimes performance did a complete about turn and said no inference could be drawn from the alert.
Grime was close to retirement and wanted to start a lucrative cadaver dog business. Luz was his shop window and his profile to the PJ could be seen as his sales brochure.
Its reported he showed the video of the Luz searches to Lenny Harper to get the 100k Jersey job. It was important to him to big up the value of the alertsband the skils of his dogs. There never was a100% record
All this is supported by evidence
Yip, no evidence for the two dogs eddie and keela that were in 200 searches/cases and got it wrong, impossible for someone to relay that, it was about sniffing meat based products. But people think they had a 100 percwnt track record in that. Not to put the dogs down. But possibility of handler miscuing.
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Steady you're nearly into parent blame here, can't have that.
No I'm not. The girlfriend trusted her boyfriend with her child how was she to know he was a Paedophile? The other children were playing, aren't they allowed to go and play?
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Steeples also mentions the McCann's dining with a Paedophile, I don't think he had the word Paedophile written on his forehead. He may have dined with a Paedophile for all he knows, they don't broadcast what they are.
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Steeples also mentions the McCann's dining with a Paedophile, I don't think he had the word Paedophile written on his forehead. He may have dined with a Paedophile for all he knows, they don't broadcast what they are.
Steeples has rather a bizarre concept of how to go about investigating the disappearance of a three year old child.
Don't bother looking!
Whether or not that is applicable only to the one whose surname is McCann or if it is blanket coverage, one can only speculate .
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But not murder.
Not sure where steeples comes in apart from meeting them twice due to charity. How does he know the mind of bruckner not to mention the underage images of girls.
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What most don't realise is the dog searches in luz were basically an experiment. Harrison and Grime got together in 2005 to see if the unconfirmed alerts could be used as intelligence in abduction/murder cases. It seems Luz was their first real test. That would explain how Harrison initially said an alert could indicate the past presence of a cadaver but then after Grimes performance did a complete about turn and said no inference could be drawn from the alert.
Grime was close to retirement and wanted to start a lucrative cadaver dog business. Luz was his shop window and his profile to the PJ could be seen as his sales brochure.
Its reported he showed the video of the Luz searches to Lenny Harper to get the 100k Jersey job. It was important to him to big up the value of the alertsband the skils of his dogs. There never was a100% record
All this is supported by evidence
Some of us could see this in the process of Martin Grime setting up his business, which didn't have much to do with Madeleine McCann.
Martin Grime probably had more to do with the cock up than anyone will ever know.
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Freud was not known as a paedophile at the time. If in fact he ever was.
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Freud was not known as a paedophile at the time. If in fact he ever was.
Correct, i mentioned this in another thread because at the time he invited them to dinner 2 months after mm went missing. It was then alleged after he died of the accusation which was never proved. Another myth that they happily dined with a paedophile.
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Correct, i mentioned this in another thread because at the time he invited them to dinner 2 months after mm went missing. It was then alleged after he died of the accusation which was never proved. Another myth that they happily dined with a paedophile.
The McCanns didn't dine with a paedophile. Freud was never proved to be so.
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The McCanns didn't dine with a paedophile. Freud was never proved to be so.
Yeah was just alleged. But people tried tlaim they knew peior, jst more bs