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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Jeremy Bamber and the callous murder of his father, mother, sister and twin nephews. Case effectively CLOSED by CCRC on basis of NO APPEAL REFERRAL. => Topic started by: Claudia on March 08, 2012, 09:47:31 PM
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Simon McKay has given an interview to the BBc today about the Bamber case. Is this ethical I ask?
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Jeremy Bamber was locked up for life for murdering his parents, sister and two nephews 27 years ago, but his lawyer believes he has uncovered new evidence suggesting he is innocent. The Criminal Cases Review Commission will announce in the next few weeks whether it is referring the case back to the Court of Appeal. Home Affairs correspondent Danny Shaw reports.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/listen_again/default.stm
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Here is the actual interview.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/b006qj9z/console
Go to 1.22 mins
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McKay says that the conviction may be unsafe, he does not say Bamber is innocent! Apparently he knows more about Sheila Caffell than Colin Caffell, what a load of crap. He refers to Sheila as being acutely mentally ill. Could such a tiny girl so afflicted suddenly gain the knowledge to use a rifle and overpower her much taller stronger father?
Does anyone get the sense that McKay has been hoodwinked by the master now?
Woffnden on the other hand can see the wood and the trees. He has Bamber sussed like the rest of us! He believes that Bamber is using his mental strength and charisma to garner support and has played the system. He says that other genuine miscarriage of justices cases are being ignored because of the bamber case.
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McKay says that the conviction may be unsafe, he does not say Bamber is innocent! Apparently he knows more about Sheila Caffell than Colin Caffell, what a load of crap. He refers to Sheila as being acutely mentally ill. Can people so afflicted suddenly gain the knowledge to use a rifle and overpower her much taller stronger father?
Does anyone get the sense that McKay has been hoodwinked by the master now?
Not at all John..............think he knows exactly what he's doing.
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McKay says that the conviction may be unsafe, he does not say Bamber is innocent! Apparently he knows more about Sheila Caffell than Colin Caffell, what a load of crap. He refers to Sheila as being acutely mentally ill. Can people so afflicted suddenly gain the knowledge to use a rifle and overpower her much taller stronger father?
Does anyone get the sense that McKay has been hoodwinked by the master now?
Not at all John..............think he knows exactly what he's doing.
Do you think McKay is working for Bamber or for himself?
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I can't hear the article in Luxrmbourg .... does McKay say MAY be unsafe John? Doesn't sound too positive to me?
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McKay says that the conviction may be unsafe, he does not say Bamber is innocent! Apparently he knows more about Sheila Caffell than Colin Caffell, what a load of crap. He refers to Sheila as being acutely mentally ill. Can people so afflicted suddenly gain the knowledge to use a rifle and overpower her much taller stronger father?
Does anyone get the sense that McKay has been hoodwinked by the master now?
Not at all John..............think he knows exactly what he's doing.
Do you think McKay is working for Bamber or for himself?
For himself of course
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Oh I have heard it now. Bob Woffinden sounded more impressive than Bamber .... I liked his wood for the trees analogy. BW is a good honest man ... admitting that after reflection he was wrong to ever have supported Bamber.
NB: Mods this thread should be in the Bamber case section .... not the Bamber forum section. It has nowt to do with Tesko Tower muppets. Ta.
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Oh I have heard it now. Bob Woffinden sounded more impressive than Bamber .... I liked his wood for the trees analogy. BW is a good honest man ... admitting that after reflection he was wrong to ever have supported Bamber.
NB: Mods this thread should be in the Bamber case section .... not the Bamber forum section. It has nowt to do with Tesko Tower muppets. Ta.
Topic moved to the Bamber board.
McKay certainly gets some mileage on the Clegg case but has he done anything worthwhile since then?
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I believe McKay knows dam well that Bamber is guilty but wants to have a go just in case. That is how these lawyers work, they don't give a toss whether someone is guilty or innocent. Actually, I will take that one step further and tell you what my lawyers told me on more than one occasion.
The courts are not concerned with guilt or innocence, they are only concerned with what appears to be right in the public interest.
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Here we have Woffinden and Mckay, both intelligent people, supporting or having supported Bamber.
Then go to the other end of the spectrum, ie plankton, there we have preece and tesko 8)-)))
Bloody hell, that will teach me to go to Crufts, I've missed all the action. So Mike has finally spontaneously combusted? That's been coming for a while, I expect Mertol will blame it on the solar flares, or whatever. And Andi, Vic and Hartley have all been banned? What on earth did they all do? And Jackie thinks I'm a vile, drunken bitch? (oh, hang on, I knew that bit already.) What a day!! What I don't understand is if Jackie despises this forum, and me in particular, so much why is she over here every 5 minutes? Because we all know she is. 8((()*/
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She cant help herself Shona, she likes to be center of attention.
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She cant help herself Shona, she likes to be center of attention.
True. Poor old sod. But I hear that she's got it in for Steph, too? What has Steph ever done to her? Why does she have to be so hateful to everyone that she's jealous of?
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How did you get on at Crufts Shona TheMagnificent .... best of breed I would say.
Of course I meant yr pugs and not you personally! 8)-)))
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How did you get on at Crufts Shona TheMagnificent .... best of breed I would say.
Of course I meant yr pugs and not you personally! 8)-)))
I came second in vile, drunken bitch, and had a lovely day, thank you!! A bit knackered now, this is the first time I've sat down all day.
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She cant help herself Shona, she likes to be center of attention.
True. Poor old sod. But I hear that she's got it in for Steph, too? What has Steph ever done to her? Why does she have to be so hateful to everyone that she's jealous of?
Speaking of jealousy... she's now posting about JM's "tricks in bed".
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Sad sad woman.
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Sad sad woman.
Yerss. And GG says she's now talking about JM again. Oh dear. Move on, love.
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She cant help herself Shona, she likes to be center of attention.
True. Poor old sod. But I hear that she's got it in for Steph, too? What has Steph ever done to her? Why does she have to be so hateful to everyone that she's jealous of?
Speaking of jealousy... she's now posting about JM's "tricks in bed".
WTF would she know about tricks in bed. I hear she looks like a pop star .... Keith Richards complection combined with Shane McGowans smile! A good 30 pinter for a homeless bloke! 8(>((
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What is your take on this great new evidence Lucy. Where do you feel this is going to end up?
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She cant help herself Shona, she likes to be center of attention.
True. Poor old sod. But I hear that she's got it in for Steph, too? What has Steph ever done to her? Why does she have to be so hateful to everyone that she's jealous of?
Speaking of jealousy... she's now posting about JM's "tricks in bed".
WTF would she know about tricks in bed. I hear she looks like a pop star .... Keith Richards complection combined with Shane McGowans smile! A good 30 pinter for a homeless bloke! 8(>((
Timmy!!! ...you've got me chuckling now at that apparition or sceptre. There must be a photo of her around somewhere...anybody??
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Timmmyy!!!!! GGGRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 8()(((@#
That's Miss Preece's problem isn't it John. If she could she woulld be making out she was a super model, living in a country pile with all her beautiful children running around or at Uni but she knows we know the truth! She makes Waynette Slob seem like Joanna Lumley!
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Timmmyy!!!!! GGGRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 8()(((@#
That's Miss Preece's problem isn't it John. If she could she woulld be making out she was a super model, living in a country pile with all her beautiful children running around or at Uni but she knows we know the truth! She makes Waynette Slob seem like Joanna Lumley!
how do yu kno abut jacies piles? its becusa she sits on a computr al day doing work for jerememery they ar relly paneful
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Here is the actual interview.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/b006qj9z/console
Go to 1.22 mins
hey there everybody whats been happenen???? great new forum btw. i wondered where you guys had gone to and then i read something about sabotage by bamber supporters. must catch up i fact must reintroduce myself in the intro.
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Timmmyy!!!!! GGGRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 8()(((@#
That's Miss Preece's problem isn't it John. If she could she woulld be making out she was a super model, living in a country pile with all her beautiful children running around or at Uni but she knows we know the truth! She makes Waynette Slob seem like Joanna Lumley!
Sorry about that Tim, my youngest is also called Tim but gets called Timmy out of fondness. ?{)(**
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Timmmyy!!!!! GGGRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 8()(((@#
That's Miss Preece's problem isn't it John. If she could she woulld be making out she was a super model, living in a country pile with all her beautiful children running around or at Uni but she knows we know the truth! She makes Waynette Slob seem like Joanna Lumley!
Sorry about that Tim, my youngest is also called Tim but gets called Timmy out of fondness. ?{)(**
Welly Timmmmy is better than Gladys or Nelly! 8)--))
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McKay says that the conviction may be unsafe, he does not say Bamber is innocent! Apparently he knows more about Sheila Caffell than Colin Caffell, what a load of crap. He refers to Sheila as being acutely mentally ill. Can people so afflicted suddenly gain the knowledge to use a rifle and overpower her much taller stronger father?
Does anyone get the sense that McKay has been hoodwinked by the master now?
Not at all John..............think he knows exactly what he's doing.
Do you think McKay is working for Bamber or for himself?
When McKay took on the Bamber case..it was big news at the CCRC and at our firm. Not because it was time to take notice of the Bamber case because it actually had someone worknig on it now but because it was simon McKay... it was a topic of ......amusment.
"Why is McKay getting involved with Bamber? He's got money issues, Bamber doesn't pay his legal team, Bamber can't pay his legal team."
It was beleived that McKay thought there would be enough 'evidence' to get this pushed through the CCRC and then legal aid would come his way - that was the only explanation I ever heard people give to why McKay is really into this case.
He needs that money.
You don't need me to tell you about his court cases and the money he owes, you've all discovered that for yourself. McKay can't think Bamber is innocnet, just that there is a chance the case may be referred or the conviction quashed, not becuase that is the right thing to do but because he believes he can do it.
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McKay says that the conviction may be unsafe, he does not say Bamber is innocent! Apparently he knows more about Sheila Caffell than Colin Caffell, what a load of crap. He refers to Sheila as being acutely mentally ill. Can people so afflicted suddenly gain the knowledge to use a rifle and overpower her much taller stronger father?
Does anyone get the sense that McKay has been hoodwinked by the master now?
Not at all John..............think he knows exactly what he's doing.
Do you think McKay is working for Bamber or for himself?
When McKay took on the Bamber case..it was big news at the CCRC and at our firm. Not because it was time to take notice of the Bamber case because it actually had someone worknig on it now but because it was simon McKay... it was a topic of ......amusment.
"Why is McKay getting involved with Bamber? He's got money issues, Bamber doesn't pay his legal team, Bamber can't pay his legal team."
It was beleived that McKay thought there would be enough 'evidence' to get this pushed through the CCRC and then legal aid would come his way - that was the only explanation I ever heard people give to why McKay is really into this case.
He needs that money.
You don't need me to tell you about his court cases and the money he owes, you've all discovered that for yourself. McKay can't think Bamber is innocnet, just that there is a chance the case may be referred or the conviction quashed, not becuase that is the right thing to do but because he believes he can do it.
That's why we have been calling him Simon McChancer IVA & bar since we saw his dodgy pig shooting 'new evidence'.
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You don't need me to tell you about his court cases and the money he owes, you've all discovered that for yourself. McKay can't think Bamber is innocent, just that there is a chance the case may be referred or the conviction quashed, not because that is the right thing to do but because he believes he can do it.
When he was tweeting about representing Bamber we took the chance to ask him directly what his position was but he blocked us. Now why would someone who genuinely supported Jeremy Bamber do such a thing?
In my opinion he just didn't want to place anything on record.
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McKay says that the conviction may be unsafe, he does not say Bamber is innocent! Apparently he knows more about Sheila Caffell than Colin Caffell, what a load of crap. He refers to Sheila as being acutely mentally ill. Could such a tiny girl so afflicted suddenly gain the knowledge to use a rifle and overpower her much taller stronger father?
Does anyone get the sense that McKay has been hoodwinked by the master now?
Woffnden on the other hand can see the wood and the trees. He has Bamber sussed like the rest of us! He believes that Bamber is using his mental strength and charisma to garner support and has played the system. He says that other genuine miscarriage of justices cases are being ignored because of the bamber case.
Even OJ's lawyer claimed OJ was innocent. Although over 90% of the public thought otherwise in polls. To be fair that was before the 'not guilty' verdict.
Jeremy's lawyers have to avoid looking stupid after 29 years. He is clearly guilty. But Mckay has also failed to show how the conviction is unsafe.
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Simon McKay has given an interview to the BBc today about the Bamber case. Is this ethical I ask?
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Jeremy Bamber was locked up for life for murdering his parents, sister and two nephews 27 years ago, but his lawyer believes he has uncovered new evidence suggesting he is innocent. The Criminal Cases Review Commission will announce in the next few weeks whether it is referring the case back to the Court of Appeal. Home Affairs correspondent Danny Shaw reports.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/listen_again/default.stm
Simon McKay recently featured in a biased & misleading BBC Wales doc on mass murderer David Morris
‘I believe Jeremy Bamber’s case is one of the worst miscarriages of justice in the 20th century’ - Simon McKay (2013)
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Simon McKay recently featured in a biased & misleading BBC Wales doc on mass murderer David Morris
‘I believe Jeremy Bamber’s case is one of the worst miscarriages of justice in the 20th century’ - Simon McKay (2013)
Simon McKay recently featured in a biased & misleading BBC Wales doc on mass murderer David Morris Sounds like an opinion. If so needs "IMO" or expressing as an opinion.
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Simon McKay recently featured in a biased & misleading BBC Wales doc on mass murderer David Morris
‘I believe Jeremy Bamber’s case is one of the worst miscarriages of justice in the 20th century’ - Simon McKay (2013)
Hope his kids don't read this...they'll be horrified that daddy is still singing the praises of a double child murderer!
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Hope his kids don't read this...they'll be horrified that daddy is still singing the praises of a double child murderer!
That was 7 years ago. Have they not persuaded him to have a rethink? After all, there's no sign of his presence at the Bamber Fan Club since they fell out and the Williams-Thomas TV investigation died a death.
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That was 7 years ago. Have they not persuaded him to have a rethink? After all, there's no sign of his presence at the Bamber Fan Club since they fell out and the Williams-Thomas TV investigation died a death.
I think he woke up.
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I think he woke up.
I don’t think he did Caroline - it’s possible he’s been ‘lurking’ ?
Around 50.00 here https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000nrl2/bbc-wales-investigates-the-clydach-murders-beyond-reasonable-doubt
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I don’t think he did Caroline - it’s possible he’s been ‘lurking’ ?
Around 50.00 here https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000nrl2/bbc-wales-investigates-the-clydach-murders-beyond-reasonable-doubt
He got pretty pissed off when he did the the last submissions because of all the BS that Bamber wanted him to mention. Probably the stuff they're submitting now.