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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: debunker on May 02, 2013, 06:37:07 AM
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Conspiracy theories involve secret machinations by the great and the powerful.
Do the McCanns have some special hold on the Governments of the past six years?
Are the McCanns anything more than rather irritatingly pompous middle class, middle ranking, midland medical practitioners?
What effect have 'D' notices had on the British Press? Why has the unconstrained foreign press not published material beyond what is available in the UK? I think especially of the Irish press!
Are there some form of super injunctions in place.
Why is the press so favorable to them anyway.
Discuss.
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Interesting questions except for the conspiracy premise.
Where you hold me, in fact I hold you too.
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You mean have the McCanns turned from a normal hard working, family unit, into world class actors? People who have hoodwinked Governments all over the world, MI5, Mossad, German Intelligent Units, Police Forces all around the world. Not to mention anyone MP could have said something and brought down a Government..
Nah, don't think so
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You mean have the McCanns turned from a normal hard working, family unit, into world class actors? People who have hoodwinked Governments all over the world, MI5, Mossad, German Intelligent Units, Police Forces all around the world. Not to mention anyone MP could have said something and brought down a Government..
Nah, don't think so
Not what I asked.
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It answers it all in that sentence. No need to answer the questions is there
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It answers it all in that sentence. No need to answer the questions is there
Not if you don't want to elicit knowledge from debate.
For instance it might be useful to consider exactly what D notices are.
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Conspiracy theories involve secret machinations by the great and the powerful.
According to [ censored word ]s, conspiracies are truth, it's just that 99.999999% of the population haven't yet been enlightened.
According to this logic, US miltary satellites were deliberately deviated from PdL on the night so as to prevent proof coming to light that Gerry was in fact carrying his dead child in a dark alley in the tiny seaside village resort of PdL, the most highly secretive military complex next to those in North Korea.
In any case, terrorist attacks in Morocco prior to the disappearance were just a diversion, orchestrated in advance, to protect Gerry (whose dad was a well-known VIP in the higher echelons of the Labour party) and his hugely important strategic role in the UK nuclear industry.
And I was being sarcastic, in case this wasn't clear.
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Carana, if I may, a bit too much to be called sarcastic, don't you think ?
I don't see how conspiration could explain this case.
But I find normal that an ambitious guy married to a beautiful woman will fight to keep what he managed to achieve.
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Carana, if I may, a bit too much to be called sarcastic, don't you think ?
I don't see how conspiration could explain this case.
But I find normal that an ambitious guy married to a beautiful woman will fight to keep what he managed to achieve.
Anne, in the points I raised, I have never found a shred of evidence that they were true.
As I'm not privy to US military intelligence, I can't actually prove whether satellites were deviated from PdL or not. I doubt that anyone else could prove anything either.
What about the other 2 points, Anne? ;)
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Where did this Gerry's-dad-is-Labour-MP originate?
Madeleine McCann: Gerry McCann’s Late Father Was A Labour Party MP
by Anorak | 7th, September 2007
PAULO Reis writes from Portugal. Is this right?
Late father of Gerald (“Gerry”) was a Labour Party high ranking politician
Jack McCann, father of Gerald (“Gerry”) McCann was an influential politician from the Labour Party, elected as a Member of Parliament in a 1958 by-election, in Rochdale, near Manchester. This campaign is in Media history books, as the first by-election to be covered by television. BBC has decided not to cover it, but Granada TV, an ITN franchise, decided to report the campaign. After the Labour Party smashing victory, Harold Macmillan, British Prime Minister from 1957 to 1963, decided to give his first TV interview as Prime-Minister, talking to a BBC program called “Press Conference” and on a ITV “Tell The People.”
Jack McCann (1910-1972) studied at elementary school and then at classes of the National Council of Labour Colleges and Workers’ Educational Association. An engineer, he served as councillor on Eccles Borough Council in 1945 and was leader of the Labour Group. Elected in 1958 to the Parliament, in 1964 he was appointed to the Government’s Whips’ Office as Lord Commissioner of the Treasury, than in 1966 as Vice-Chamberlain of the Household, returning to be a Lord of the Treasury 1967–69.
The fact that Gerald (“Gerry”) McCann is the son of a late Labour Party high ranking politician may help to explain how the couple was able to build the Media machine that took Madeleine McCann case to all over the world, from the Vatican to near the White House. And also why there has been a connection so strong between the nº 10 of Downing Street and the father of the missing child. As we first referred, on August 26, it was the British Prime-Minster, Gordon Brown, who suggested to Gerald McCann, on the eve of the MediaGuardian Edinburgh Television Festival, that it was time to scale down the campaign to find Madeleine.
But in the last days there have been some signals that show the support for McCann family is starting to loose speed and strength. Gerald McCann gave an interview, on August 28, to the Independent Catholic News, where he felt the need to explain that the couple meeting with the Pope has nothing to see with his high profile campaign. Gerald McCann said that Cardinal Cormac, who was the middle-man who moved things in order to get that meeting, had told them that Pope Benedict would meet “other Catholic parents” in similar circumstances. “The cardinal made clear that it wasn’t necessary to have a high profile media campaign to be given this opportunity,” Gerald McCann told the newspaper.
Now, that Kate McCann could be charged in connection with her daughter disappearance, according to family sources and her lawyer, quoted by Sky News, some other strong supporters may be thinking twice. Like, for example, some of the hundreds of policemen who gave Gerald McCann, a standing ovation during the ceremony to present the Police Bravery Awards.
http://www.anorak.co.uk/176297/news/twitterings/madeleine-mccann-gerry-mccanns-late-father-was-a-labour-party-mp.html/
A comment on that thread:
109 mike mccann says:
September 27th, 2007 at 11:22 pm
“Jack McCann, father of Gerald (“Gerry”) McCann was an influential politician from the Labour Party, elected as a Member of Parliament in a 1958 by-election, in Rochdale, near Manchester.”
John (Jack) McCann WAS an influential politician from the Labour Party, elected as a Member of Parliament in a 1958 by-election, in Rochdale.
He was my father and friend.
Although we have the same family name we have no connection to the family involved in this sad affair.
Please stop bringing distress to yet another family by your scurillous speculation.
Posted in Memory of John (Jack) McCann MP. Father of Michael (Mike) McCann.
Michael J McCann.
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It seems to have originated here:
7.9.07
CORRECTION AND APOLOGIES
1 – The late John “Jack” McCann, Labour MP from Rochdale, is not the father of Gerry McCann. Our apologies to both families for publishing this story all based in a wrong fact;
2 – After we (me and Mr. Duarte Levy) got the initial information, we checked with two persons who, because of their jobs, have the responsibility to clarify these kind of questions, coming from journalists and got a positive answer;
3 – After several emails and comments, all with the same message – we were wrong – we had a second talk with those persons and we heard the following explanations:
- One of the persons couldn't hear the phrase "from the Labour Party", in our question ("Late MP Jack McCann, from Labour Party, was the father of Gerry McCann?"), because of conditions of the place that person was, at the time we called;
- The second person misunderstood the phrase "from the Labour Party" and though we were saying "from Ireland", for similar reasons;
4 – After some time of reflexion, we decided to accept the explanations as plausible;
5 – Mr. Clarence Mitchell was not one of the persons we contacted, as some comments posted at our pages suggested. He was somebody who, as a family friend - one of above mentioned persons told us - could gave more details about who was Gerry McCann's father.
Paulo Reis and Duarte Levy
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Late father of Gerald (“Gerry”) was a Labour Party high ranking politician
Jack McCann, father of Gerald (“Gerry”) McCann was an influential politician from the Labour Party, elected as a Member of Parliament in a 1958 by-election, in Rochdale, near Manchester. This campaign is in Media history books, as the first by-election to be covered by television. BBC has decided not to cover it, but Granada TV, an ITN franchise, decided to report the campaign. After the Labour Party smashing victory, Harold Macmillan, British Prime Minister from 1957 to 1963, decided to give his first TV interview as Prime-Minister, talking to a BBC program called “Press Conference” and on a ITV “Tell The People.”
Jack McCann (1910-1972) studied at elementary school and then at classes of the National Council of Labour Colleges and Workers' Educational Association. An engineer, he served as councillor on Eccles Borough Council in 1945 and was leader of the Labour Group. Elected in 1958 to the Parliament, in 1964 he was appointed to the Government's Whips' Office as Lord Commissioner of the Treasury, than in 1966 as Vice-Chamberlain of the Household, returning to be a Lord of the Treasury 1967–69.
The fact that Gerald (“Gerry”) McCann is the son of a late Labour Party high ranking politician may help to explain how the couple was able to build the Media machine that took Madeleine McCann case to all over the world, from the Vatican to near the White House. And also why there has been a connection so strong between the nº 10 of Downing Street and the father of the missing child. As we first referred, on August 26, it was the British Prime-Minster, Gordon Brown, who suggested to Gerald McCann, on the eve of the MediaGuardian Edinburgh Television Festival, that it was time to scale down the campaign to find Madeleine.
But in the last days there have been some signals that show the support for McCann family is starting to loose speed and strength. Gerald McCann gave an interview, on August 28, to the Independent Catholic News, where he felt the need to explain that the couple meeting with the Pope has nothing to see with his high profile campaign. Gerald McCann said that Cardinal Cormac, who was the middle-man who moved things in order to get that meeting, had told them that Pope Benedict would meet “other Catholic parents” in similar circumstances. "The cardinal made clear that it wasn't necessary to have a high profile media campaign to be given this opportunity," Gerald McCann told the newspaper.
Now, that Kate McCann could be charged in connection with her daughter disappearance, according to family sources and her lawyer, quoted by Sky News, some other strong supporters may be thinking twice. Like, for example, some of the hundreds of policemen who gave Gerald McCann, a standing ovation during the ceremony to present the Police Bravery Awards.
Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis
Version Française - Versão Portuguesa
Posted by Paulo Reis at 1:58:00 PM
http://gazetadigitalarquivo.blogspot.co.uk/2007/09/late-father-of-gerald-gerry-was-labour.html
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Conspiracy theories involve secret machinations by the great and the powerful.
Do the McCanns have some special hold on the Governments of the past six years?
Are the McCanns anything more than rather irritatingly pompous middle class, middle ranking, midland medical practitioners?
What effect have 'D' notices had on the British Press? Why has the unconstrained foreign press not published material beyond what is available in the UK? I think especially of the Irish press!
Are there some form of super injunctions in place.
Why is the press so favorable to them anyway.
Discuss.
This is the sort of hogwash which feeds the attacks on the Mccanns. Blaming them for doing everything under their power to find thier child has now become a crime. Pathetic.
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Conspiracy theories involve secret machinations by the great and the powerful.
Do the McCanns have some special hold on the Governments of the past six years?
Are the McCanns anything more than rather irritatingly pompous middle class, middle ranking, midland medical practitioners?
What effect have 'D' notices had on the British Press? Why has the unconstrained foreign press not published material beyond what is available in the UK? I think especially of the Irish press!
Are there some form of super injunctions in place.
Why is the press so favorable to them anyway.
Discuss.
This is the sort of hogwash which feeds the attacks on the Mccanns. Blaming them for doing everything under their power to find thier child has now become a crime. Pathetic.
I agree totally- just trying to smoke out any [ censored word ]s!
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I agree totally- just trying to smoke out any [ censored word ]s!
Can I borrow your dictionary Debunker?
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Carana, if I may, a bit too much to be called sarcastic, don't you think ?
I don't see how conspiration could explain this case.
But I find normal that an ambitious guy married to a beautiful woman will fight to keep what he managed to achieve.
Anne, in the points I raised, I have never found a shred of evidence that they were true.
As I'm not privy to US military intelligence, I can't actually prove whether satellites were deviated from PdL or not. I doubt that anyone else could prove anything either.
What about the other 2 points, Anne? ;)
Carana, I suppose I erroneously assumed you had invented all those points out of derision !
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You mean have the McCanns turned from a normal hard working, family unit, into world class actors? People who have hoodwinked Governments all over the world, MI5, Mossad, German Intelligent Units, Police Forces all around the world. Not to mention anyone MP could have said something and brought down a Government..
Nah, don't think so
YES, they did.
The McCann that discussed pennies on that Ocean Club holiday, turned up as very "classy" persons that even payed their mortgage with the Find Madeleine Fund, made it all over the world in private jets or 1st class travel and top five stars hotels. They lost a child but found a way to rise up in their way of living.
In my book that is preying from the dead.
By the way, that was a very good choice for an avatar. In fact you act like a McCann marionette.
Congratulations
P.S. No offense intended, Pinocchio was my favorite story when I was 3 y.o.
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I don't have the time or the will to entertain muratfan and his associates.
But since I'm here now, I'll say this: get another job quickly.
The McCann fable is about to end.
I'm not a psychic, just an ordinary reader of "papers" in their various forms, material or digital. The McCann grapevine is not delivering any grapes much longer, so you won't be able to make vinegar out of it.
I am not a friend, but in my country there is a saying: Quem te avisa teu amigo é «The one that advises you is your friend»
P.S. oooooooops!, guess I'll get another reprimand from our Admin. But you see Sir/Mm, I live in a country where we can express freely our thoughts since 1974. When our expression goes over the top we make amends, if you feel like I shouldn't chastisize the marionette, I'll abide to your recomendation
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Carana, if I may, a bit too much to be called sarcastic, don't you think ?
I don't see how conspiration could explain this case.
But I find normal that an ambitious guy married to a beautiful woman will fight to keep what he managed to achieve.
Anne, in the points I raised, I have never found a shred of evidence that they were true.
As I'm not privy to US military intelligence, I can't actually prove whether satellites were deviated from PdL or not. I doubt that anyone else could prove anything either.
What about the other 2 points, Anne? ;)
Carana, I suppose I erroneously assumed you had invented all those points out of derision !
I'd agree that the tone of my post was flippant. But I was actually serious about the content.
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I agree totally- just trying to smoke out any [ censored word ]s!
Can I borrow your dictionary Debunker?
English is an evolving language:
http://illuminutti.com/2012/04/23/ten-characteristics-of-conspiracy-theorists-a-look-into-the-mind-of-[ censored word ]s-nutjobs-and-tin-foil-hatters/