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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: debunker on May 18, 2013, 01:42:39 PM
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what will happen.
It is one thing quoting the letter of the law, it is another refusing to further investigate the potential crime. (Murder/missing person enquiries are never closed in England.)
What if the tabloids turn on Portugal and start a campaign to force Portugal to re-open.
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what will happen.
It is one thing quoting the letter of the law, it is another refusing to further investigate the potential crime. (Murder/missing person enquiries are never closed in England.)
What if the tabloids turn on Portugal and start a campaign to force Portugal to re-open.
Quoting the letter of the law, and abiding by it, are entirely different in Portugal, it seems.
I hope that is possible, not sure though.
Shame they are happy to keep taking bail outs, but whats it being spent on?
They would save an absolute fortune, if they got their court cases done in less than 10 years. Stopped wasting money on appeals for god knows how long.
Then they wonder why corruption, is rife.
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what will happen.
It is one thing quoting the letter of the law, it is another refusing to further investigate the potential crime. (Murder/missing person enquiries are never closed in England.)
What if the tabloids turn on Portugal and start a campaign to force Portugal to re-open.
I sincerely hope not.
In my opinion, it would:
- further exacerbate nationalistic tensions in public opinion;
- make unnecessary waves in a fragile economy;
- be of little use, anyway, in terms of the legal issues involved;
- put added pressure on other areas in which cooperation and mutual confidence are required: potential other missing people, terrorist suspects, drug rings, paedo rings, whatever the need for constructive cooperation may be.
The tabloids should just let them get on with working out whatever solution is viable.
And shut up.
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Did Amaral really say it only needs a stamp on a letter from the McCanns to open the case?
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what will happen.
It is one thing quoting the letter of the law, it is another refusing to further investigate the potential crime. (Murder/missing person enquiries are never closed in England.)
What if the tabloids turn on Portugal and start a campaign to force Portugal to re-open.
I sincerely hope not.
In my opinion, it would:
- further exacerbate nationalistic tensions in public opinion;
- make unnecessary waves in a fragile economy;
- be of little use, anyway, in terms of the legal issues involved;
- put added pressure on other areas in which cooperation and mutual confidence are required: potential other missing people, terrorist suspects, drug rings, paedo rings, whatever the need for constructive cooperation may be.
The tabloids should just let them get on with working out whatever solution is viable.
And shut up.
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what will happen.
It is one thing quoting the letter of the law, it is another refusing to further investigate the potential crime. (Murder/missing person enquiries are never closed in England.)
What if the tabloids turn on Portugal and start a campaign to force Portugal to re-open.
Quoting the letter of the law, and abiding by it, are entirely different in Portugal, it seems.
I hope that is possible, not sure though.
Shame they are happy to keep taking bail outs, but whats it being spent on?
They would save an absolute fortune, if they got their court cases done in less than 10 years. Stopped wasting money on appeals for god knows how long.
Then they wonder why corruption, is rife.
They'd also save a fortune if parents holidaying in their country were more careful with the safety of their children.
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I wonder if thats why the police initially acted as they did, I wonder how many times per season they get alled out to 'lost' children, only to find them a short timr later.
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If the SY *potential leads already in the files* are ones eliminated by police originally why should they reopen the case to follow them up again? Fluff fluff, is that all they could come up with after two years and 5 m quid? Sad
i used to respect the Met
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If the SY *potential leads already in the files* are ones eliminated by police originally why should they reopen the case to follow them up again? Fluff fluff, is that all they could come up with after two years and 5 m quid? Sad
i used to respect the Met
Fluff, fluff. How do you know that Red? Cos the PT detectives didn't find things in the files and elsewhere, doesn't necessarily mean that there weren't other things; it is possible to miss things, especially when your boss isn't interested cos he "solved" the case the day after the event !
And 5 million quid. Is that the correct figure? Have you got that right?
[BTW, were you on Digital Spy at one time? In the early days? Seem to recognise your style. Very like someone on MccannExposure too. Did we meet at Bennetts trial?]
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If the SY *potential leads already in the files* are ones eliminated by police originally why should they reopen the case to follow them up again? Fluff fluff, is that all they could come up with after two years and 5 m quid? Sad
i used to respect the Met
Fluff, fluff. How do you know that Red? Cos the PT detectives didn't find things in the files and elsewhere, doesn't necessarily mean that there weren't other things; it is possible to miss things, especially when your boss isn't interested cos he "solved" the case the day after the event !
And 5 million quid. Is that the correct figure? Have you got that right?
[BTW, were you on Digital Spy at one time? In the early days? Seem to recognise your style. Very like someone on MccannExposure too. Did we meet at Bennetts trial?]
Fluff, because the statements are fluff
4.5m is the reported amount a few weeks ago, as for your last paragraph, your imagination running away with you there, as I have no connection with any of that
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Ok, fair does.
Just cant quite understand why you have spent several weeks trying to "get me", if we dont know each other.
Well I saw 2 million banded about recently but I think it is more than 3 millions tbh
Whose statements are fluff, Red?
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Ok, fair does.
Just cant quite understand why you have spent several weeks trying to "get me", if we dont know each other.
Well I saw 2 million banded about recently but I think it is more than 3 millions tbh
Whose statements are fluff, Red?
Not trying to *get you* at all
Dont take challenges or criticisms personally Sadie
The 4.5m figure is definitely the latest one
Fluff is things like this, obviously, the detective may just have been making general comments and keeping real information confidential
"There is more than a handful of people of interest which could be explored further if only to be eliminated.
"The key things are to investigate the case and our work is happening to support the Portuguese."
Last year the review team led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said it had identified 195 potential leads after examining a huge bundle of material.
It was "perfectly probable" that information which could identify the person responsible for Madeleine's disappearance was already within the Portuguese files, Campbell said.
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Last year the review team led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said it had identified 195 potential leads after examining a huge bundle of material.
It was "perfectly probable" that information which could identify the person responsible for Madeleine's disappearance was already within the Portuguese files, Campbell said.
How did they eliminate about 150 ? Interviewing them because they were on UK soil and nobody would, in fact, protest ? Or thanks to HOLMES ? Or thanks to hypothetical deduction?
I understand the last sentence like a progress. The truth isn't "out there".
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Red at one time you were definitely hounding me. Every time I opened my mouth you and was it ?Stephen? were there immediately to smack me one. I could understand Stephen cos he had made such a fool of himself on Bigfooty as he constantly demanded of me "how did Leonor know she was kneeling on ash trays?". Jeez! 8)-))). He was his own worst enemy and i did nothing to stop it.
Anyway, lets get over it and shake hands. OK?
Let's try and get on and start all over again. Shall we?8((()*/
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Yes Sadie, dont worry about it
8((()*/
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Last year the review team led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said it had identified 195 potential leads after examining a huge bundle of material.
It was "perfectly probable" that information which could identify the person responsible for Madeleine's disappearance was already within the Portuguese files, Campbell said.
How did they eliminate about 150 ? Interviewing them because they were on UK soil and nobody would, in fact, protest ? Or thanks to HOLMES ? Or thanks to hypothetical deduction?
I understand the last sentence like a progress. The truth isn't "out there".
What SY say publically is for me fluff and PR and nothng else and probably for the best if they are to conduct their investigation in peace and quiet, no need for anyone to hang onto any word uttered which is always to sheep
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Yes Sadie, dont worry about it
8((()*/
Cheers, we will try. OK?
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Last year the review team led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said it had identified 195 potential leads after examining a huge bundle of material.
It was "perfectly probable" that information which could identify the person responsible for Madeleine's disappearance was already within the Portuguese files, Campbell said.
How did they eliminate about 150 ? Interviewing them because they were on UK soil and nobody would, in fact, protest ? Or thanks to HOLMES ? Or thanks to hypothetical deduction?
I understand the last sentence like a progress. The truth isn't "out there".
Probably by using simple detective work, matching up the evidence on computers (not tatty bits of paper like those Rebelo found when he took over), questioning people both in the UK and Portugal (as apparently has been happening with PJ knowledge), by taking the extra effort to ensure that people are contacted and not just ignored because they have left the area etc, etc.
When police use systems such as Holmes, it allows them to check alibis, check a person's past record, check documentation and to compare one statement against hundreds of others.
It also helps to be more open to all potential criminal actions in a case rather than being focused on only certain potential culprits.
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Last year the review team led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said it had identified 195 potential leads after examining a huge bundle of material.
It was "perfectly probable" that information which could identify the person responsible for Madeleine's disappearance was already within the Portuguese files, Campbell said.
How did they eliminate about 150 ? Interviewing them because they were on UK soil and nobody would, in fact, protest ? Or thanks to HOLMES ? Or thanks to hypothetical deduction?
I understand the last sentence like a progress. The truth isn't "out there".
What SY say publically is for me fluff and PR and nothng else and probably for the best if they are to conduct their investigation in peace and quiet, no need for anyone to hang onto any word uttered which is always to sheep
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Are you saying that we are all sheep and mediocraties (per your signature) and you are a great mind?
[Sig: Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence, Einstein]
I am confused
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Sadie, I replied to you regarding why I considered the SY statements fluff, its my *opinion* whether you like it not. the reference to sheep was to people who will believe every word said by the police, such words may alot of the time be *fluff* if only to keep what the police are doing confidential. How you decided to take that very personally and then connect it to my signature as well,as referring to other people here as sheep is, only known to you. I didnt realise ones signature had to be related somehow to this case, anyway,its just a quote of Einsteins I like, I am excused now?
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Last year the review team led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said it had identified 195 potential leads after examining a huge bundle of material.
It was "perfectly probable" that information which could identify the person responsible for Madeleine's disappearance was already within the Portuguese files, Campbell said.
How did they eliminate about 150 ? Interviewing them because they were on UK soil and nobody would, in fact, protest ? Or thanks to HOLMES ? Or thanks to hypothetical deduction?
I understand the last sentence like a progress. The truth isn't "out there".
Probably by using simple detective work, matching up the evidence on computers (not tatty bits of paper like those Rebelo found when he took over), questioning people both in the UK and Portugal (as apparently has been happening with PJ knowledge), by taking the extra effort to ensure that people are contacted and not just ignored because they have left the area etc, etc.
When police use systems such as Holmes, it allows them to check alibis, check a person's past record, check documentation and to compare one statement against hundreds of others.
It also helps to be more open to all potential criminal actions in a case rather than being focused on only certain potential culprits.
Gilet - with the greatest respect and all that
NSY had 2 years and 2 million squid And Holmes
And have come up with a list of 12 cleaners and gardeners - who could be anywhere in the world
hardly a resounding success?
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Last year the review team led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said it had identified 195 potential leads after examining a huge bundle of material.
It was "perfectly probable" that information which could identify the person responsible for Madeleine's disappearance was already within the Portuguese files, Campbell said.
How did they eliminate about 150 ? Interviewing them because they were on UK soil and nobody would, in fact, protest ? Or thanks to HOLMES ? Or thanks to hypothetical deduction?
I understand the last sentence like a progress. The truth isn't "out there".
Probably by using simple detective work, matching up the evidence on computers (not tatty bits of paper like those Rebelo found when he took over), questioning people both in the UK and Portugal (as apparently has been happening with PJ knowledge), by taking the extra effort to ensure that people are contacted and not just ignored because they have left the area etc, etc.
When police use systems such as Holmes, it allows them to check alibis, check a person's past record, check documentation and to compare one statement against hundreds of others.
It also helps to be more open to all potential criminal actions in a case rather than being focused on only certain potential culprits.
Gilet - with the greatest respect and all that
NSY had 2 years and 2 million squid And Holmes
And have come up with a list of 12 cleaners and gardeners - who could be anywhere in the world
hardly a resounding success?
Wait and see!