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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: faithlilly on June 24, 2013, 07:34:45 PM

Title: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: faithlilly on June 24, 2013, 07:34:45 PM
First we have a self-proclaimed McCann supporter suggesting on his blog that the Scotland Yard review team is leaking like a piece of faulty guttering, now this headline in the Telegraph :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10139347/Home-Secretary-pledges-to-purge-corruption-from-police-after-Stephen-Lawrence-family-smear-allegations.html

Can we now expect the supporter contingent to condemnation as stringently the behaviour of SY as they have the PJ ?
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: faithlilly on June 24, 2013, 08:26:10 PM
11 views and still no comment ?
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: AnneGuedes on June 24, 2013, 08:35:46 PM
Well, I'll risk one, Faithlilly. If the British start wondering whether they can trust the integrity of their most famous institution, this will be a tsunami in the Rule Britannia etc.
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: stephen25000 on June 24, 2013, 08:53:15 PM
Indeed. The Lawrence case has highlighted the fact that UK police forces  are no better or worse than any other.

Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: Redblossom on June 24, 2013, 08:59:59 PM

A whitewash of MM case will never work ever and if anyone tries it they are digging their own grave

Some of  the police in that case were despicable at best,  they tried to fit up stephens friend who witnessed the attack, they spied on the victims family and friends to dig up dirt and destroy their cqmpaign, but they  never went after the knife wielding gang, one of whose parent had police connections, disgusting overall, look forward  to the day the s..m are exposed and convicted

the man who ordered  this evil  has to be exposed



having said that, you cant connect that evil episode  of two decdes ago plus with the mccann case, in this day and age NO ONE is above the law and if any present  police are even thinking of a cover up they will be dog meat IMO, well, i think so anyway 

i posted this on the off topic forum

The stabbed and murdered victim and his friends and family were targetted by police in undercover operations to find dirt on them..and IIRC his friend dwayne was nearly fitted up too,.instead of directing this operation on the diagustinggang that killed him,youcouldnt make this evil shit up

the police in this country need to expunge this evil and corruption from their quarters and eradicate any mindset that enables it

There is a psychopathyand schizophrenia evident IMO when victims are derided ignored  and used and killers left alone where the hell did this ideology come from??


its no different to eastern cultures who stone women for being raped, no difference at all

Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: faithlilly on June 24, 2013, 09:05:36 PM
Well, I'll risk one, Faithlilly. If the British start wondering whether they can trust the integrity of their most famous institution, this will be a tsunami in the Rule Britannia etc.

Absolutely Anne.
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: Redblossom on June 24, 2013, 09:09:57 PM
Absolutely Anne.

the institutions in this country and others are being brought to book, there is a sea change worldwide and in the uk there is no hiding place


Banks
Govt
Church
NHS
broadcasting corporations
Police now
MI5
its whistleblowers heaven and good!
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: Rachel Granada on June 24, 2013, 09:32:25 PM
First we have a self-proclaimed McCann supporter suggesting on his blog that the Scotland Yard review team is leaking like a piece of faulty guttering, now this headline in the Telegraph :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10139347/Home-Secretary-pledges-to-purge-corruption-from-police-after-Stephen-Lawrence-family-smear-allegations.html

Can we now expect the supporter contingent to condemnation as stringently the behaviour of SY as they have the PJ ?

It's really getting up your nose that the McCanns aren't suspects, isn't it? As confirmed by DCI Andy Redwood in April last year, when he dismissed conspiracy theories and stated that SY believed that Madeleine was taken by a stranger in a criminal act.  I do not have the link, but I'm sure someone will oblige.
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: Redblossom on June 24, 2013, 09:38:23 PM
It's really getting up your nose that the McCanns aren't suspects, isn't it? As confirmed by DCI Andy Redwood in April last year, when he dismissed conspiracy theories and stated that SY believed that Madeleine was taken by a stranger in a criminal act.  I do not have the link, but I'm sure someone will oblige.

he never dismissed anything at all, let us have his WORDS then where he dismised anything LOL, take care, his words not others, they dont EXIST, see ya
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: faithlilly on June 24, 2013, 09:47:53 PM
It's really getting up your nose that the McCanns aren't suspects, isn't it? As confirmed by DCI Andy Redwood in April last year, when he dismissed conspiracy theories and stated that SY believed that Madeleine was taken by a stranger in a criminal act.  I do not have the link, but I'm sure someone will oblige.

A McCann supporter has claimed he has details regarding the review that he can't possible have obtained unless one of the review teams is leaking details to interested parties. Either that or he is a liar of the tallest order, which one is it ?
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: AnneGuedes on June 24, 2013, 09:50:05 PM
A McCann supporter has claimed he has details regarding the review that he can't possible have obtained unless one of the review teams is leaking details to interested parties. Either that or he is a liar of the tallest order, which one is it ?
Does God play dice ?
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: Redblossom on June 24, 2013, 10:11:40 PM
Does God play dice ?

No and neither does scotland yard, they are in the position now to find  the truth, they haveno right or space  to cover anything up

i dont  think they will either

In answer to the op i dont think they would dare to nite  x
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: Carana on June 24, 2013, 10:52:54 PM
I'm not quite sure what the point is.

Anyone can start a blog. One blogger started a new one for almost every new thought that occurred to her.


On the police issue (anywhere): if there is evidence of corruption, bad apples, or whatever else - yes, of course it should be investigated.

What's the problem?
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: sadie on June 24, 2013, 11:48:04 PM
I'm not quite sure what the point is.

Anyone can start a blog. One blogger started a new one for almost every new thought that occurred to her.


On the police issue (anywhere): if there is evidence of corruption, bad apples, or whatever else - yes, of course it should be investigated.

What's the problem?
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At least the British Gov. are acknowledging the probability and looking into what happened


There are bad eggs in every basket.

Such a pity that the Madeleine case got such a big bunch of them.  I am sure someone else will list them with their crimes

Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: faithlilly on June 25, 2013, 12:01:43 AM
8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)(

At least the British Gov. are acknowledging the probability and looking into what happened


There are bad eggs in every basket.

Such a pity that the Madeleine case got such a big bunch of them.  I am sure someone else will list them with their crimes

It is a pity sadie. As to that list, shall we start of Kate and Gerry McCann. Their crime ? Let's start with a blatant disregard for their children's safety and work our way up eh.
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: icabodcrane on June 25, 2013, 02:07:17 AM
It's just awful that the police  ...  the  POLICE ... set out to smear Stephen Lawrence's family

I hope this is treated with the seriousness it deserves 

Then again,  given the appalling treatment of the Hillsborough victims,  and their families,  I don't hold out much hope 
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: faithlilly on June 25, 2013, 10:41:23 AM
It's just awful that the police  ...  the  POLICE ... set out to smear Stephen Lawrence's family

I hope this is treated with the seriousness it deserves 

Then again,  given the appalling treatment of the Hillsborough victims,  and their families,  I don't hold out much hope

Unfortunately I share your pessimism Icab.
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: faithlilly on June 25, 2013, 11:43:15 PM
Another tale of our good old British bobbies :

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/exclusive-police-tried-to-smear-cell-death-victim-christopher-alder-1-5795554
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: Admin on June 26, 2013, 12:56:54 PM
The former head of Scotland Yard looked decidedly uncomfortable when interviewed about the latest revelations in the Stephen Lawrence case while he was in charge.  He didn't take long to state it had nothing to do with him.

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/410023/Ex-chief-denies-Met-officers-ordered-Stephen-Lawrence-smear-bid
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: Matthew Wyse on June 28, 2013, 03:08:07 PM
Scotland Yard has had so much damage done to its reputation recently that it is looking very shaky in the credibility stakes.  Heaven know what blame will be apportioned in the Stephen Lawrence case once an inquiry has run its course.
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: Redblossom on June 28, 2013, 08:20:58 PM
Scotland Yard has had so much damage done to its reputation recently that it is looking very shaky in the credibility stakes.  Heaven know what blame will be apportioned in the Stephen Lawrence case once an inquiry has run its course.

Dont forget though this was 20 years ago or so, things have changed,fact remains though that these officers who did this must have got the go ahead by their superiors or believed their superiors would be ok with it, unless  theyare all outed as rogues,which I doubt
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: John on June 29, 2013, 03:07:51 AM
You only need to look at the Barry George stitch up by officers who also worked the Madeleine McCann case.  I'm sorry to say I wouldn't trust any of them to do the right thing.
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: AnneGuedes on June 29, 2013, 01:29:57 PM
You only need to look at the Barry George stitch up by officers who also worked the Madeleine McCann case.  I'm sorry to say I wouldn't trust any of them to do the right thing.
Gosh, then who would you trust to do the right thing, John ?
Title: Re: Can We Now Trust the Integrity of Scotland Yard ?
Post by: John on June 29, 2013, 05:38:41 PM
To be honest Anne, it is hard to say these days what with police corruption, cover ups and leaks of all sorts going right to the top.

I certainly wouldn't trust a police office, a politician or a judge with anything of significance in the UK given past experience.

Doing the right thing now means something else in terms of the great British Justice system. 

...nuff said!